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Post by greyosprey on Aug 15, 2022 8:45:33 GMT -5
This still makes zero sense to me. If you're playing in a tournament setting and are in the third (of four) tiers - how can the game be too easy? Is it solely because the scores are unrealistic? IIRC, that was the case when TGC was using Master settings as well. I think the case is maybe a differentiation between the challenge coming from matching others scores vs. the game mechanics. Like, if we all played on beginner it would also apply that I probably wouldn't be top but I would obviously find it too easy you know? I think Mart, and a few of us, find pro to be similar tee to green (obviously to a lesser extent). People will score better and that's fine and totally expected but we also don't enjoy the gameplay. And honestly I still think Pro is right for TGCT and they've done a fantastic job rebuilding the playerbase. I would just love for their to be an alternative that people were open to trying on master or legend swing. But again, if the interest isn't there, it isn't there I guess. This is possible, albeit very highly unlikely. Combine the Pro Tours into one society (each system). This frees up 2 societies. Take the two freed up societies and make another PRO and CC society but this time at Master swing difficulty. This would produce PRO and CC societies at both Master and Pro difficulty. Last I checked, there's a TBD society that's not being used. If this is still the case, turn it into a Legend society with Legend difficulty. Everyone could play Legend Tour, but maybe have to choose between Pro and Master Tour/difficulty. With that being said, even if the powers that be were to entertain the idea, the amount of coding/programming, etc could make it unfeasible. And would there be enough interest across the 3 platforms to warrant a PRO, Master, and Legend difficulty Tours? Personally, with 2000+ players, I think there would be enough interest in Pro and Masters to have adequate levels of participation. Heck, TST has less than 200 and seems to be doing just fine, especially with flights. Of course, this is probably light years away from the original vision of the site, so I imagine it's a no go from the get go. But throwing it out there nonetheless. Back under my rock I go!  |
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PGA2k23 Courses: Baiting Hollow Dunes, Ballycraic (Major), Wicker Club
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Post by blindwolfgolf on Aug 15, 2022 9:06:06 GMT -5
Looks like an announcement or possibly release next week?
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Post by martbloke on Aug 15, 2022 9:15:27 GMT -5
Haha what are the chances this is launch date? Knowing HB marketing, anything is possible! Hahaha.
Now I'm super excited for this game. Bring on next week!
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Post by Wutpa on Aug 15, 2022 9:39:54 GMT -5
Haha what are the chances this is launch date? Knowing HB marketing, anything is possible! Hahaha. Now I'm super excited for this game. Bring on next week! Yes, surely it is to be the announcement date, with the release date a few months afterwards. Still, that's progress. |
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Post by sroel908 on Aug 15, 2022 9:44:20 GMT -5
Is...is that a Scotty Cameron???
And...are those Jordans???
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Post by sroel908 on Aug 15, 2022 9:55:31 GMT -5
Also, not the release date:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 10:03:57 GMT -5
Also, not the release date: With it being 2K23 are we safe to assume it will release this year? |
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Post by sroel908 on Aug 15, 2022 10:08:21 GMT -5
Also, not the release date: With it being 2K23 are we safe to assume it will release this year? This is only my personal thought, but I would guess it's out in October or November. Just a hunch. |
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Post by jwfickett on Aug 15, 2022 10:17:23 GMT -5
I see the same plants/trees/houses/grass that we already have, which makes me think that the course designer will not be getting a major overhaul. I'll be disappointed if that's true. The well-known limitations of the designer are really getting old...it has not truly been overhauled since the game debuted in 2014. Was hoping they'd abandon UNITY and go with something more capable of rendering photorealism. Harris Kalinka is out here rendering stuff like this: harriskalinka.com/Meanwhile we're burying bushes to create make-believe pot bunkers. |
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Post by sroel908 on Aug 15, 2022 10:25:01 GMT -5
I see the same plants/trees/houses/grass that we already have, which makes me think that the course designer will not be getting a major overhaul. I'll be disappointed if that's true. The well-known limitations of the designer are really getting old...it has not truly been overhauled since the game debuted in 2014. Was hoping they'd abandon UNITY and go with something more capable of rendering photorealism. Harris Kalinka is out here rendering stuff like this: harriskalinka.com/Meanwhile we're burying bushes to create make-believe pot bunkers. This is he biggest thing that's bringing me back down to earth following this announcement of an announcement. What little there is to see in that video does look just like 2K21, save for the inclusion of new clothing/putters. |
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Post by Giraffe72 on Aug 15, 2022 10:56:35 GMT -5
Lol hold your horses! There's two big questions:
Have they made any gameplay changes?
Have they done anything with the designer?
You can't answer either of these from a shot of someone's shiny new shoes and a putter!
Let's see what is said next week...
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Post by Brenelan on Aug 15, 2022 12:23:03 GMT -5
This still makes zero sense to me. If you're playing in a tournament setting and are in the third (of four) tiers - how can the game be too easy? Is it solely because the scores are unrealistic? IIRC, that was the case when TGC was using Master settings as well. I think the case is maybe a differentiation between the challenge coming from matching others scores vs. the game mechanics. Like, if we all played on beginner it would also apply that I probably wouldn't be top but I would obviously find it too easy you know? I think Mart, and a few of us, find pro to be similar tee to green (obviously to a lesser extent). People will score better and that's fine and totally expected but we also don't enjoy the gameplay. And honestly I still think Pro is right for TGCT and they've done a fantastic job rebuilding the playerbase. I would just love for their to be an alternative that people were open to trying on master or legend swing. But again, if the interest isn't there, it isn't there I guess. That makes some sense, Craig - appreciate the response. I took a quick look at the scoring averages last year vs. this among the top-20 in Plat, and it looks like the change added about 2.5 strokes over the season (59 to about 61.4). I suppose that's somewhat statistically significant. Anecdotally, when I watch the better players stream, it doesn't look like tempo would be a huge issue for them regardless of Master vs. Pro. I kind of like the idea that promoting from CC to the higher tours would include a move to Master swing, seems that would be a natural progression. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2022 12:53:55 GMT -5
I think the case is maybe a differentiation between the challenge coming from matching others scores vs. the game mechanics. Like, if we all played on beginner it would also apply that I probably wouldn't be top but I would obviously find it too easy you know? I think Mart, and a few of us, find pro to be similar tee to green (obviously to a lesser extent). People will score better and that's fine and totally expected but we also don't enjoy the gameplay. And honestly I still think Pro is right for TGCT and they've done a fantastic job rebuilding the playerbase. I would just love for their to be an alternative that people were open to trying on master or legend swing. But again, if the interest isn't there, it isn't there I guess. That makes some sense, Craig - appreciate the response. I took a quick look at the scoring averages last year vs. this among the top-20 in Plat, and it looks like the change added about 2.5 strokes over the season (59 to about 61.4). I suppose that's somewhat statistically significant. Anecdotally, when I watch the better players stream, it doesn't look like tempo would be a huge issue for them regardless of Master vs. Pro. I kind of like the idea that promoting from CC to the higher tours would include a move to Master swing, seems that would be a natural progression. The top tier players need to be playing legend to have any kind of challenge if we're being realistic. I think everything is always put into a score perspective. I am an average player but I find with Pro the ball flies way too straight, many hazards are taken out of play that would be there with master for me. It is just a bit boring when my ball flight is so predictably straight. I don't use feedback or follow cam so I am always looking at ball flight as my feedback I do reckon it would be interesting too see the scores from aids on and TST top tiers playing legend for one week. |
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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Aug 15, 2022 13:10:43 GMT -5
I think the case is maybe a differentiation between the challenge coming from matching others scores vs. the game mechanics. Like, if we all played on beginner it would also apply that I probably wouldn't be top but I would obviously find it too easy you know? I think Mart, and a few of us, find pro to be similar tee to green (obviously to a lesser extent). People will score better and that's fine and totally expected but we also don't enjoy the gameplay. And honestly I still think Pro is right for TGCT and they've done a fantastic job rebuilding the playerbase. I would just love for their to be an alternative that people were open to trying on master or legend swing. But again, if the interest isn't there, it isn't there I guess. That makes some sense, Craig - appreciate the response. I took a quick look at the scoring averages last year vs. this among the top-20 in Plat, and it looks like the change added about 2.5 strokes over the season (59 to about 61.4). I suppose that's somewhat statistically significant. Anecdotally, when I watch the better players stream, it doesn't look like tempo would be a huge issue for them regardless of Master vs. Pro. I kind of like the idea that promoting from CC to the higher tours would include a move to Master swing, seems that would be a natural progression. No worries I love chatting about this stuff. And as I say I try to be realistic because the tours have to appeal to a wide variety of players and try to juggle all platforms and preferences which is a tough and thankless task, and we really are spoilt. I hope my comments aren't seen as belittling what the guys in charge do. The tours have kept me coming back since 2017 iirc. Anyway, I hope I haven't taken us wildly off on a tangent. All of this may well be totally irrelevant come next Monday Edit: and yeah I agree. Honestly I'd be all for making legend swing, true sim with marker off the norm at the top level. Not that I'd be up there or anything but I think it would be a hell of a lot of fun to play in and watch. |
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Post by twofor22 on Aug 15, 2022 16:36:43 GMT -5
Anyone else noticed a couple of glitches in the putting lately? I've had a few that have flown off the putter way faster than they should have, and also skewed off line straight away despite swing plane being straight. I guess they've let it go a bit with this new game on the horizon.
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