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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2021 9:03:53 GMT -5
We've created a couple of test events to see if there are options we can tweak to make the tours a bit more difficult while using the Pro swing. Please play and provide some feedback. Keep in mind I'm going into this thinking we'll keep the same settings from the season just ending (but with Pro Swing) but wanted to give you all a chance to try some out to see if the shoe fits better.
Challenge Circuit 1st event: No Scout Cam, No Lie Grid, Pro Swing 2nd event: No Lie Grid, Pro Swing
Each event is 2 rounds and lasts 3 days.
Still showing Masters in the difficulty section in ghe Society I am on Xbox We didn't change the society settings - just the event settings when creating these test events.
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Alec675922
Weekend Golfer
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Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by Alec675922 on Sept 7, 2021 9:27:05 GMT -5
Still showing Masters in the difficulty section in ghe Society I am on Xbox We didn't change the society settings - just the event settings when creating these test events. So they where on Pro ?
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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2021 9:30:10 GMT -5
We didn't change the society settings - just the event settings when creating these test events. So they where on Pro ? Challenge Circuit was on Pro, Platinum/Elite were on Legend.
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Post by axelvonfersen on Sept 7, 2021 9:33:54 GMT -5
Played the CC test event at Old Ghosts with no lie grid + no scout cam. This is it. 100% nailed it. The lie grids on fairways aren't needed anyway, what you want is the grid on the greens. And now it gels beautifully with all the designers out there who sometimes use blindness as a feature on some holes. Choosing to take the tough shot from the tee and leave a clear view to the green vis á vi aiming for the easy part of the fairway but going blind is finally an option. The scout cam negates a lot of the strategy designers try to implement into their courses. And Pro swing + no grid + no scout cam is just absolutely perfect for the way the game plays at the moment. You have to think you way around the course more and actually use the course guide. And at the end of the day, it's always gonna be decided on the greens. Absolutely loved this setting, both from a CC-I player and a designer's viewpoint. Doyley I beg you, please make these the CC-settings. They're perfect.
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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2021 9:45:42 GMT -5
Just to give everyone a heads up on where we sit today.
Challenge Circuit: 99.9% that it's just a switch to Pro swing - all our other settings remain the same Pro Tours (Platinum/Elite/Kinetic): No lie grid is seriously being considered. It's a small enough change (like our Wind Meter only) that if you are skilled enough to get to the top 3 tours, you should be able to adapt easily. It may only add a shot at most to people's rounds - but it's worth it if it creates a bit of uncertainty - especially with chips where a few inches can make all the difference between going in and just squeaking by.
The rest of the settings are a bit too much for me to get on board with. Everyone is fairly comfortable with our current settings at this point so I don't want to rock the boat too much outside of the Pro swing change.
With that in mind, going to add 2 more events with lie grid off in the Kinetic society for people to get in a few more rounds before I completely make up my mind.
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Post by InsanericK on Sept 7, 2021 9:48:30 GMT -5
My 2 cents: No lie grid for sure, it adds a little mystery. No scout cam is great fun especially off the tee. Problem is on approaches you have no clue what you are hitting into which of course is how you plan out your approach, swells in the green, etc. Unless of course you do by playing the course with the same pins prior to your tourney round which frankly you would be insane not to do if you really wanted to compete. I see that as a huge problem. Did you turn the Approach Cam ON? From 41 yards or less, you can have a look, even turn the camera completly. You can also press L2 to check over your head. And yes, scouting is possible. But unless you map every greens to perfection, you will miss information no matter what you do.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 7, 2021 9:50:26 GMT -5
Played the CC test event at Old Ghosts with no lie grid + no scout cam. This is it. 100% nailed it. The lie grids on fairways aren't needed anyway, what you want is the grid on the greens. And now it gels beautifully with all the designers out there who sometimes use blindness as a feature on some holes. Choosing to take the tough shot from the tee and leave a clear view to the green vis á vi aiming for the easy part of the fairway but going blind is finally an option. The scout cam negates a lot of the strategy designers try to implement into their courses. And Pro swing + no grid + no scout cam is just absolutely perfect for the way the game plays at the moment. You have to think you way around the course more and actually use the course guide. And at the end of the day, it's always gonna be decided on the greens. Absolutely loved this setting, both from a CC-I player and a designer's viewpoint. Doyley I beg you, please make these the CC-settings. They're perfect. I thought that scout cam has to stay on, since PC users can still "scout" ahead with the flyover camera even if the scout cam is turned off...
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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2021 9:55:14 GMT -5
Played the CC test event at Old Ghosts with no lie grid + no scout cam. This is it. 100% nailed it. The lie grids on fairways aren't needed anyway, what you want is the grid on the greens. And now it gels beautifully with all the designers out there who sometimes use blindness as a feature on some holes. Choosing to take the tough shot from the tee and leave a clear view to the green vis á vi aiming for the easy part of the fairway but going blind is finally an option. The scout cam negates a lot of the strategy designers try to implement into their courses. And Pro swing + no grid + no scout cam is just absolutely perfect for the way the game plays at the moment. You have to think you way around the course more and actually use the course guide. And at the end of the day, it's always gonna be decided on the greens. Absolutely loved this setting, both from a CC-I player and a designer's viewpoint. Doyley I beg you, please make these the CC-settings. They're perfect. As was mentioned earlier - No Scout Cam is a no go after being reminded that PC users can by pass it easily. Wouldn't be fair. No Lie Grid is a fairly minor setting so I'd prefer to keep it on for the Challenge Circuit.
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Post by mattyfromcanada on Sept 7, 2021 10:01:59 GMT -5
I really, really like the no scout cam thing, it adds so much to the tee shots especially.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 10:07:13 GMT -5
I really, really like the no scout cam thing, it adds so much to the tee shots especially. I think everyone found the no scout cam interesting but to be honest, you'd have to have total trust that all PC users wouldn't just press F10 and do this....even includes the green grids for good measure!!
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Post by fadgewacker on Sept 7, 2021 10:08:59 GMT -5
I really, really like the no scout cam thing, it adds so much to the tee shots especially. I think everyone found the no scout cam interesting but to be honest, you'd have to have total trust that all PC users wouldn't just press F10 and do this.... Agree - can’t be sure, but for those enjoying it, can it still be disabled per your own user settings, or will TGCT society settings rule all?
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Post by Doyley on Sept 7, 2021 10:12:13 GMT -5
Agree - can’t be sure, but for those enjoying it, can it still be disabled per your own user settings, or will TGCT society settings rule all? If you're referring to No Scout Cam - I usually leave the setting to Open if we have it on which gives people the option to make it harder if they so choose. Same with green grids etc.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Sept 7, 2021 10:15:05 GMT -5
I'm good with whatever is decided- however - I must state that swing timing absolutely needs to remain on for the tours.
I play in Eric's DAM society which is set to Legend/No Timing and it is way too easy..
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Post by axelvonfersen on Sept 7, 2021 10:15:28 GMT -5
Oh, what a shame. Yeah I respect that, relying on people being honest and not trying to cheat the system by going F10 isn't going to work very well.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 10:17:35 GMT -5
I think everyone found the no scout cam interesting but to be honest, you'd have to have total trust that all PC users wouldn't just press F10 and do this.... Agree - can’t be sure, but for those enjoying it, can it still be disabled per your own user settings, or will TGCT society settings rule all? TGCT can disable scout cam in Society settings or leave it to open then you could set up how you prefer in your own settings.
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