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Post by Craig / Hendomedes on Sept 7, 2021 7:42:08 GMT -5
It's been discussed that PC players have a work-around with an F10 flyover that negates the Scout Cam being off, especially because it allows them to see the greens. Course yardage to Book only: I haven't tried but like the sounds of that for the Pro tours. Oh I didn't know that for PC players. Course yardage to Book only is tougher I think. Haven't played enough rounds to compare. If you guessed a 25 feets downhill elevation and it's finally 18 or 33, it will impact your shots enough so your birdie chance will be far longer. It can surprise you with chips that will go way too far or won't make the distance cause knowing every feets of elevationis crucial for chipping. Long putt are way tougher, especially downhill ones. I like playing with book-only myself but under camera settings you can activate 'show distance to hole in HUD' which will show the elevation to the pin anyway. And this can't be locked to off for the society afaik. But agreed, it's a nice way to play.
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Post by InsanericK on Sept 7, 2021 7:43:31 GMT -5
Id go masters with pro swing. Ui off and no lie grid and Marker only The info on the marker really helps dialling in a shot.especially on partial swings(no point in taking marker off cos everybody will just use middle spot of the screen as that is a constant). Same as all games cod golf. Etc is always std As for those suggesting carry distance as an option. If you dont already use carry you must be a dinosaur. I could still have a marker with my monitor. I can place various symbols like a red dot in the middle
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 7:43:47 GMT -5
twangydaveIf you are starting to hit the greens at Pro level, get on the putting practice green. The putt for dough saying certainly translates into this game. Get your putting game sharp and watch how your scores improve. Good luck and stick at it.
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Post by gatorman on Sept 7, 2021 7:46:11 GMT -5
I played 1 round of test. The lack of cam view really reduced my immersion in the game. I couldn't tell what I was aiming at on my approach shots. Not good for my enjoyment.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 7:49:07 GMT -5
I played 1 round of test. The lack of cam view really reduced my immersion in the game. I couldn't tell what I was aiming at on my approach shots. Not good for my enjoyment. Were you using the course yardage book (overhead view of the hole). It supplies all kinds of information regarding distances giving you an idea of where you should be aiming. Not really relevant though as scout cam will be staying on for the tour.
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Post by dansamp on Sept 7, 2021 7:50:32 GMT -5
It's been discussed that PC players have a work-around with an F10 flyover that negates the Scout Cam being off, especially because it allows them to see the greens. Course yardage to Book only: I haven't tried but like the sounds of that for the Pro tours. Oh I didn't know that for PC players. Course yardage to Book only is tougher I think. Haven't played enough rounds to compare. If you guessed a 25 feets downhill elevation and it's finally 18 or 33, it will impact your shots enough so your birdie chance will be far longer. It can surprise you with chips that will go way too far or won't make the distance cause knowing every feets of elevationis crucial for chipping. Long putt are way tougher, especially downhill ones. Yep - this an edge to those who practice the course in advance and map some of these elevations out, but they are the Pro tours after all... to be fair haven't played a round this way yet, but does sound interesting.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 8:03:19 GMT -5
Oh I didn't know that for PC players. Course yardage to Book only is tougher I think. Haven't played enough rounds to compare. If you guessed a 25 feets downhill elevation and it's finally 18 or 33, it will impact your shots enough so your birdie chance will be far longer. It can surprise you with chips that will go way too far or won't make the distance cause knowing every feets of elevationis crucial for chipping. Long putt are way tougher, especially downhill ones. Yep - this an edge to those who practice the course in advance and map some of these elevations out, but they are the Pro tours after all... to be fair haven't played a round this way yet, but does sound interesting. Having seen the disappointment of some of the Pro Tour players to the thought of scoring -70 and no room being left for error I think it's wise for Admin to try to up the difficulty without turning it into TST. To me the course yardage book and aim marker are the two areas that could be looked at. Interesting to see the leader in the clubhouse on PC so far on the test event is on -25 (a top, top player) after 2 rounds suggesting fears of -70 may be unfounded.
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 7, 2021 8:10:59 GMT -5
I’d go with Pro settings but no lie grid to make it a little more interesting. Scout cam has to stay IMO…..
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Post by dansamp on Sept 7, 2021 8:11:46 GMT -5
Yep - this an edge to those who practice the course in advance and map some of these elevations out, but they are the Pro tours after all... to be fair haven't played a round this way yet, but does sound interesting. Having seen the disappointment of some of the Pro Tour players to the thought of scoring -70 and no room being left for error I think it's wise for Admin to try to up the difficulty without turning it into TST. To me the course yardage book and aim marker are the two areas that could be looked at. Interesting to see the leader in the clubhouse on PC so far on the test event is on -25 (a top, top player) after 2 rounds suggesting fears of -70 may be unfounded. It will be really interesting to see. IMO from watching streams, the top players (PS4) were already hitting a vast majority (95%) of perfects anyways on Master. FWIW on XB I average about 75% perfect, and it will remain that way because Pro doesn't give any extra perfects on XB compared to Master. But now the difference is my misses won't be 30 yards short. Still think the top scores improve a couple strokes per round, but I don't think we see consistent -18s, especially on the tough Plat courses.
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Post by hippystein on Sept 7, 2021 8:26:32 GMT -5
[/quote] I could still have a marker with my monitor. I can place various symbols like a red dot in the middle[/quote]
Thats what im getting at rick. Its pointless having no marker but ui off and marker only increases difficulty slightly
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Post by up mup kupen nup on Sept 7, 2021 8:29:01 GMT -5
Thats what im getting at rick. Its pointless having no marker but ui off and marker only increases difficulty slightly Well... not everybody does this.
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Post by illinoisgator on Sept 7, 2021 8:35:55 GMT -5
DoyleyI had previously mentioned in the “What about Season 8?” thread that the pro swing could be left on and assists turned off as follows: - Swing Timing off - Distance Control Meter off - Distance Control Assist off Further down the line: Distance Display carry only I also think that while you are considering Legend with tempo (Swing Timing) off for the new Beer League, that a similar approach could be done with the Master swing for the tour leagues, which seems to be the ultimate source of imbalance. Just a thought. For those who have pointed out that these settings are not adjustable in Societies, I have tested it and they actually are. Thanks for the time and great luck with coming to a happy medium! Tagging on to this - I’m finding that with swing timing (tempo) turned off, all the swings difficulties behave identically, at least in my very limited experience. Going to give the Legend swing/no tempo society a run and see how it feels I brought up that setting at the beginning of this game because I loved it…challenging but takes all the luck of the tempo out of it. Made putting far more challenging too
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 7, 2021 8:37:15 GMT -5
Having seen the disappointment of some of the Pro Tour players to the thought of scoring -70 and no room being left for error I think it's wise for Admin to try to up the difficulty without turning it into TST. To me the course yardage book and aim marker are the two areas that could be looked at. Interesting to see the leader in the clubhouse on PC so far on the test event is on -25 (a top, top player) after 2 rounds suggesting fears of -70 may be unfounded. It will be really interesting to see. IMO from watching streams, the top players (PS4) were already hitting a vast majority (95%) of perfects anyways on Master. FWIW on XB I average about 75% perfect, and it will remain that way because Pro doesn't give any extra perfects on XB compared to Master. But now the difference is my misses won't be 30 yards short. Still think the top scores improve a couple strokes per round, but I don't think we see consistent -18s, especially on the tough Plat courses. That's my issue really from a personal point of view I doubt I hit more than 60% perfect on Pro so you can imagine how my Masters game struggles. I don't get much red but a hell of a lot of grey which isn't so bad and recoverable. The test leaderboard is quite interesting. Not as much of a gulf in scores as I expected though I imagine the better players are just knocking it around for fun. I think the new season will be very competitive score wise at Pro level while giving those that have struggled massively with Masters a bit more fun
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Post by hippystein on Sept 7, 2021 8:41:33 GMT -5
Its available on certain systems tho so that too needs to be ruled out. Tst setting has always been a bug bear of mine cos nothing stops multiple account mapping on tst plus using ghosts plus everybody aims to chip in as its easier than putting. All to mickey mouse for me! The aim is to make it competitive across the board. The lie grid i agree with thatd work and a few other minor things but scout cam and green grid have gotta stay. I think its the best thing the tour has done in years as theyre actually trying to change the setup to accomadate for all systems. If the game played the same on every system you could argue masters was the standout setup but its not. People argue legend. But that on ps4 is exactly the same. You calibrate it right you reap the rewards. The ds4 is just so inferior sensitivity wise to the other pads its scary. Ive seen people say use the ds4 on ps5 but its wank! You can only play wireless and the feels mehhhhhhh! 💩💩💩💩
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Post by suggy on Sept 7, 2021 8:47:31 GMT -5
Just played the test round, no scout/no lie is the way forward imo. Especially for CC courses it gives you some freedom to change conditions to make things a little more interesting. I'm really happy to see you guys try to find some good solutions for a competitive circuit.
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