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Post by cd06 on Sept 10, 2021 15:07:17 GMT -5
Honestly Zach, I'd rather you stop talking about how fast I built the course and just focus on the end product. I'm very happy with the result  |
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Post by cd06 on Sept 10, 2021 15:08:34 GMT -5
Hey Folks, mattyfromcanada DL2.5-SebK has been published. With such a contest, I thought it prudent to talk to the design elements, or rather architectural elements with my submission Dr. Alistair Mackenzie: Incorporated in my submission is a mix of many architectural elements presented by Mr. Mackenzie in courses such as Alwoodley, Cypress Pasa and Lahinch (old). Things to note throughout the course. Lahinch (old) mounding around the greens. this is stated within the green complexes but not throughout the fairways and other play surfaces. Heavily noted in hole 2. Hummocks and Hollows (In Lahinch, Pasa and Cypress, and most definitely Alwoodley) are shown throughout the course and in the bunkering creation (both penal but also visual hazards) High faced bunkers placed into mounding (hummocks) nestled into natural land undulations (lahinch), as well as engineered into the design (Alwoodley). shot shaping and ground game (Alwoodley + Lahinch) there are places to be on the hole that is not always meant to be gained by pumping a driver out as far as you can. Wide open fairways with intentional pinches to make the tempting shot (but no the right shot) come into mind. Again, wide sprawling fairways (and 'somewhat' geomteric shaped) is also used quite often to make you feel comfortable with just being in the fairway, but with slight fairway sculpting and camber pushing you into or out of the ideal position (Alwoodley) (see in course Hole 3) Green sloping, while slow, is quite drastic. See 3, 4 and 5 on course. Notorious for big greens (Alwoodley + Lahinch) you can easily find the putting surface, but finding the right place on the putting surface is the issue. Planting and layout is to somewhat mimicking the look of Alwoodley noted in cutouts of rough and heavy grass planting and then wide open and clean fairways. Trees create chutes and directional aides as well as high bush work to frame the holes. Club house is a trailer, because you're here for the golf. Enjoy it hopefully as much as i enjoyed building it. Alwoodley! Makes me happy you've picked that, it's on the long list of courses I want to play. |
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Post by virtualgolfer65 on Sept 10, 2021 16:28:17 GMT -5
Okay, another little thing from me about this being done quickly. So when you're on Switch, you have an obvious burden that planting is a @!$#ing nightmare. Believe it or not, the object meter on mine was 23% or so (without background trees because I just couldn't be bothered). But I've found that file size is a bigger burden than actual plant meter, which is why I multiplant grass a lot to speed up the planting scheme. Getting the ravine to look natural took a little bit of time as well, and it ended up providing my favourite look I've ever done (view from hole 1). As for the Mackenzie stuff, he is one of my favourite architects and I've studied his work in the past. By the way, if you haven't already, please do go and play theclv24 's Crystal Downs LiDAR - it helped me a lot in green sculpting which you will see on the 5th. However, another Mackenzie green inspired the 5th as well, hole 9 at Cavendish Golf Club over here in the UK - I had the privilege of playing there back in 2019 and loved the greens, especially the par three greens, and the 9th probably had closer to 10ft of slope from back to front (I only managed 6ft on hole 5 on mine lol). I spent a while getting the greens right here, and ended up changing the speeds from 173 to 158 so I could get more slope in on them. The golf holes kinda found themselves, and I spent a while on the fourth trying to make the tee shot interesting with its camber. Going down the slope to the right gives a shorter shot but it's more blind, whereas the left is a longer approach and leaves a bit more visibility. I had a great time building it, and I'm delighted in how well it came together so quickly! Hope you will all give it a play, DL2.5 cd06 (Mackenzie) is the name of the course. Oh, and congrats on your publish sebk Sorry that I missed your publish and congrats! Now, see above for my post to Seb :-) |
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Post by axelvonfersen on Sept 11, 2021 7:56:32 GMT -5
Oh. The Axel is intrigued.
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Post by zacheroni on Sept 11, 2021 8:01:50 GMT -5
Honestly Zach, I'd rather you stop talking about how fast I built the course and just focus on the end product. I'm very happy with the result Fair enough, it was a great course. |
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Post by itsnaarwhal on Sept 15, 2021 17:51:44 GMT -5
Wasn't able to meet the CC contest deadline bc of irl things so I'm really looking forward to this. I feel like this is going to be the most common but im goin with some allister mackenzie vibes from a course that has probably already inspired many courses in the game, pasatiempo.
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Post by Q on Sept 15, 2021 21:51:22 GMT -5
NVM HARD PIVOT
just suddenly stumbled upon the perfect Stanley par 3 greensite . I have a feeling I might get help making it a full 18 later on
Going with the question of "What if Stanley Made a course in Humboldt County?"
redwoods time
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Post by richnufc99 on Sept 16, 2021 7:02:43 GMT -5
I was going to give this a miss… what with Parkland, Total Recall, Dream team, mini golf contests…. But figured this was a good learning exercise even if I didn’t complete (which I will)… so it’s Perry Maxwell for me… watch out for those greens!!…
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Post by cd06 on Sept 17, 2021 15:17:30 GMT -5
I know I've already published for this but does anyone have some good links to info about Perry Maxwell? I cant find much about him (except Crystal Downs and Prairie Dunes) or his courses. Also couldnt find a thing on William Flynn or Devereux Emmet - I've heard of all of them but dont know about any of them haha.
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Post by tpcsouthnine on Sept 17, 2021 15:47:16 GMT -5
I know I've already published for this but does anyone have some good links to info about Perry Maxwell? I cant find much about him (except Crystal Downs and Prairie Dunes) or his courses. Also couldnt find a thing on William Flynn or Devereux Emmet - I've heard of all of them but dont know about any of them haha. I don’t have any great articles for Maxwell handy, but I know he comes up regularly on the Fried Egg podcast. I believe there’s an episode where Bill Coore talks about his experience playing and then later restoring Old Town. And one of the more recent Yolk with Doak episodes includes conversation on Doak’s work restoring Dornick Hills, Maxwell’s first course. |
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Post by trailducker on Sept 17, 2021 16:35:50 GMT -5
I know I've already published for this but does anyone have some good links to info about Perry Maxwell? I cant find much about him (except Crystal Downs and Prairie Dunes) or his courses. Also couldnt find a thing on William Flynn or Devereux Emmet - I've heard of all of them but dont know about any of them haha. I don’t have any great articles for Maxwell handy, but I know he comes up regularly on the Fried Egg podcast. I believe there’s an episode where Bill Coore talks about his experience playing and then later restoring Old Town. And one of the more recent Yolk with Doak episodes includes conversation on Doak’s work restoring Dornick Hills, Maxwell’s first course. My plan is to do Maxwell and make something in Lue of Old Town/Souther Hills. There’s a few random things about Perry I found but mostly about his greens |
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Post by trailducker on Sept 17, 2021 16:37:48 GMT -5
I know I've already published for this but does anyone have some good links to info about Perry Maxwell? I cant find much about him (except Crystal Downs and Prairie Dunes) or his courses. Also couldnt find a thing on William Flynn or Devereux Emmet - I've heard of all of them but dont know about any of them haha. Flynn I was thinking of doing something imitating but couldn’t quite incision it like I could for Maxwell so I went him. Emmet I found the least information on and what makes an Emmet course design. |
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Post by virtualgolfer65 on Sept 17, 2021 18:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by cd06 on Sept 18, 2021 0:46:54 GMT -5
Thanks guys! Gives me something to do today |
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Post by Firethorn15 on Sept 18, 2021 7:27:50 GMT -5
For Flynn there's plenty of stuff on Fried Egg (see thefriedegg.com/william-flynn-biography/ and related course-specific articles at the bottom), as well as the Golf Club Atlas, which includes a satisfyingly scathing review of what RTJ Sr. and the owners did to Homestead Cascades: golfclubatlas.com/courses-by-country/usa/cascades/ . Emmet is a bit more difficult but I found this one which was quite good: www.golfcoursearchitecture.net/content/devereux-emmet-the-naturalist, and I expect there's some more stuff somewhere on Golf Club Atlas. Every man and his dog are going for Mackenzie; thanks to the efforts of mattyfromcanada Stanley Thompson is already well-represented in the community; Perry Maxwell is interesting but I know a bit about his work already and quite a few people are going for him as well. That leaves Flynn and Emmet - I'm going to go for Flynn as his manufactured naturalism speaks to me a bit more and I have an idea (if I can build a stream within the deadline). |
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