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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 20:35:11 GMT -5
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Post by Mitchblue on Apr 21, 2015 21:14:08 GMT -5
Cool story, bro.
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 22, 2015 13:02:21 GMT -5
That was kind of a rude response, he was just trying to share some info he came across. Come on now.
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Post by Mitchblue on Apr 23, 2015 0:15:06 GMT -5
That was kind of a rude response, he was just trying to share some info he came across. Come on now. You're right, I'm sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 15:23:53 GMT -5
Haha. You sarcastic so and so. I'm thick skinned don't worry about it. I was just trying to give tips on fairway size. Most fairways landing zones being created at the minute are too thin. It's a cheap way to make the course harder. 25 yards is usually the norm for US Opens.
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Post by fuzion on Apr 23, 2015 17:27:09 GMT -5
Spread of tee shots in the golf club is much narrower than it is in real life, even on tour. Hopefully they will add a bit more variance to stop us all getting 99% FIRs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 14:59:38 GMT -5
I was just trying to give tips on fairway size. Most fairways landing zones being created at the minute are too thin. It's a cheap way to make the course harder. 25 yards is usually the norm for US Opens. But the good players here would already have surpassed Nicklaus if their TGC skills carried over. I've never seen a tour player hit sub 60 all 4 rounds.. Happens routinely on the PGA Tour here.
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Post by Mitchblue on Apr 24, 2015 15:28:56 GMT -5
Haha. You sarcastic so and so. I'm thick skinned don't worry about it. I was just trying to give tips on fairway size. Most fairways landing zones being created at the minute are too thin. It's a cheap way to make the course harder. 25 yards is usually the norm for US Opens. I haven't been in the course designer in some time but I love large fairways and large greens. I love when others make 'em large too.
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Post by Mitchblue on Apr 24, 2015 15:34:20 GMT -5
I was just trying to give tips on fairway size. Most fairways landing zones being created at the minute are too thin. It's a cheap way to make the course harder. 25 yards is usually the norm for US Opens. But the good players here would already have surpassed Nicklaus if their TGC skills carried over. I've never seen a tour player hit sub 60 all 4 rounds.. Happens routinely on the PGA Tour here. I think you can be creative. Longer course, more difficult doglegs, harder pin locations (and different pin positions - though not sure how hard that would be.) Sand and water in the right position etc. As long as you don't have pins right on a slope - big slopes or hills on the greens can make it a bit tougher. Of course the big problem is that a 25 yard shot is an easy loft to within 2 feet of the hole.
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 25, 2015 21:33:18 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with a large fairway - if it has some interest. Hitting a large fairway anywhere and then playing to a large flattish unguarded green has no place on these tours. Narrow fairways are great - well made holes with large fairways are great. But the argument that the TCG golfer is too accurate is correct and the U.S. Opens 25 yds is more like 16-18 in game.
Then I don't know how many designers measure the size of their fairways and greens - but I would recommend doing that to check how reasonable their course is.
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 25, 2015 21:37:35 GMT -5
But the good players here would already have surpassed Nicklaus if their TGC skills carried over. I've never seen a tour player hit sub 60 all 4 rounds.. Happens routinely on the PGA Tour here. I think you can be creative. Longer course, more difficult doglegs, harder pin locations (and different pin positions - though not sure how hard that would be.) Sand and water in the right position etc. As long as you don't have pins right on a slope - big slopes or hills on the greens can make it a bit tougher. Of course the big problem is that a 25 yard shot is an easy loft to within 2 feet of the hole. Mitch - are you sure on the approach thing? I don't think anyone outside the top 25 averages 2feet from 25yds unless the pin placement is trivial. The way I see it - the issue is that an 8footer is like a 2foot tap in with grids on while IRL the best putters in the world is about 50%. Approach leaves are not that far off pro golf the way I see it. A bit to easy to get out of jail when you shoreside yourself, but otherwise quite OK.
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Post by Mitchblue on Apr 25, 2015 23:06:37 GMT -5
I think you can be creative. Longer course, more difficult doglegs, harder pin locations (and different pin positions - though not sure how hard that would be.) Sand and water in the right position etc. As long as you don't have pins right on a slope - big slopes or hills on the greens can make it a bit tougher. Of course the big problem is that a 25 yard shot is an easy loft to within 2 feet of the hole. Mitch - are you sure on the approach thing? I don't think anyone outside the top 25 averages 2feet from 25yds unless the pin placement is trivial. The way I see it - the issue is that an 8footer is like a 2foot tap in with grids on while IRL the best putters in the world is about 50%. Approach leaves are not that far off pro golf the way I see it. A bit to easy to get out of jail when you shoreside yourself, but otherwise quite OK. My point was a short loft like that is the easiest shot in the game..25 yards away, 30 yard loft, lofted to 84%..and you're getting close. If you're in the rough that shot isn't much harder.. No, they won't get within 2 feet all the time but it's still a rather easy shot IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 3:08:20 GMT -5
Mitch - are you sure on the approach thing? I don't think anyone outside the top 25 averages 2feet from 25yds unless the pin placement is trivial. The way I see it - the issue is that an 8footer is like a 2foot tap in with grids on while IRL the best putters in the world is about 50%. Approach leaves are not that far off pro golf the way I see it. A bit to easy to get out of jail when you shoreside yourself, but otherwise quite OK. My point was a short loft like that is the easiest shot in the game..25 yards away, 30 yard loft, lofted to 84%..and you're getting close. If you're in the rough that shot isn't much harder.. No, they won't get within 2 feet all the time but it's still a rather easy shot IMO. I agree with you here Mitch, it is way too easy to get up and down when off the green from 20 to 30 yards. Heavy rough has little effect on ball roll just effects distance. I have had the ball spin back out of it which would never happen in real life
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 3:14:44 GMT -5
I think you can be creative. Longer course, more difficult doglegs, harder pin locations (and different pin positions - though not sure how hard that would be.) Sand and water in the right position etc. As long as you don't have pins right on a slope - big slopes or hills on the greens can make it a bit tougher. Of course the big problem is that a 25 yard shot is an easy loft to within 2 feet of the hole. Mitch - are you sure on the approach thing? I don't think anyone outside the top 25 averages 2feet from 25yds unless the pin placement is trivial. The way I see it - the issue is that an 8footer is like a 2foot tap in with grids on while IRL the best putters in the world is about 50%. Approach leaves are not that far off pro golf the way I see it. A bit to easy to get out of jail when you shoreside yourself, but otherwise quite OK. An 8 foot putt is certainly no tap in with a tough left to right or right to left slope. You have to give it the right amount of break and power, I think the putting is spot on in this game. Better than any other golf game I've played
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 26, 2015 5:30:52 GMT -5
Agreed about the breaking 8foot putt - but there are not many of those out there and even those go in with a high frequency. Sink percentages across the board are too high and this in effect makes the short game in particular feel easier.
Also agree that the putting system is the best ever done in a golf game - both aim marker and power systems captures the essence of real putting. Maybe a bit too easy to hit it dead straight.
Removing the grid brings down sink rates to more realistic levels - and I have found that effect to carry over to the short game feel as well. Suddenly it's not good enough to flop it it 7 feet as that leaves a knee-knocker - and being consistently within 4 feet (1grid more or less) is not that easy but requires spin control etc.
Realistic putting percentages are frustrating in a video game of course so no grid play will likely remain a niche mode.
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