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Post by CGilb on Apr 16, 2015 16:05:25 GMT -5
Well, the Masters Champions dinner I'll be hosting next year is gonna be awkward.... Not really, you'll be the only one there  Touché, sir |
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Apr 16, 2015 16:06:37 GMT -5
If 18 more people drop...I will win the Masters!
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Rhaegar99
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TGCT Name: David Chism
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Post by Rhaegar99 on Apr 16, 2015 16:58:05 GMT -5
I think John just said I have a nice butt...my wife swears he said putt but I don't agree.
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Post by weedy683 on Apr 16, 2015 17:03:23 GMT -5
Noisy bunch lol
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Post by NCFCRulz on Apr 16, 2015 17:07:53 GMT -5
Ok, I'm starting to delete posts because people are starting to speculate. If you have a concern about the way our tours are operating, please PM an admin. Otherwise, please do not make guesses as to why we have made this decision. If we could share more, we would, but at this time, we can not. I hope this post is OK as its discussing the policy. Why is the policy in place to not inform the community as to why a particular action has been taken when there is clear demand for wanting to know, however in other cases such as DQs from tournaments the admin have taken the decision to release the relevant name AND state why they were DQ'd? This is a genuine question, it just seems very inconsistant and contradictory? I dont think its a case of CAN NOT share more, as im sure you would not be breaking any laws in doing so, surely this is a case of do not want to share more rather than Can not? Again, I trust this post will stay as is discussing policy and OP states policy discussion is allowed. Would like others thoughts on this? |
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Post by SmilingGoats on Apr 16, 2015 17:19:58 GMT -5
Rob,
We have informed the community as to why an action was taken. It is a violation of the previous stated policy that has lead to the dismissal.
We cannot elaborate as to the specific actions that were a violation, at this time. It is a matter of cannot. If it was a matter of not wanting to, we could have just said nothing at all.
We are giving the community the best information we can, at this moment.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Apr 16, 2015 17:30:13 GMT -5
Rob, We have informed the community as to why an action was taken. It is a violation of the previous stated policy that has lead to the dismissal. We cannot elaborate as to the specific actions that were a violation, at this time. It is a matter of cannot. If it was a matter of not wanting to, we could have just said nothing at all. We are giving the community the best information we can, at this moment. I appreciate the response and hopefully more information will come out in the future. You guys do a great job with transparency on this site and therefore have gained mine and others trust with issues such as this. If you say you can't elaborate then thats fine and I believe you. My initial post was not designed to have any sarcasm or the like, it was a genuine question which I feel had a right to be asked. You have answered and I will rightfully respect that and see what happens |
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 16, 2015 19:42:35 GMT -5
Having been an Operations Manger of a call center of over 1500 employees, I can fully understand the desire of the community to know they why and how of this situation. That being said, understand that a terminated employee or someone who was part of this community and is no longer here does have some rights to privacy, EVEN IF they are fully 100% in the wrong. I personally applaud the administration in taking the steps that they have. They understood that there might be questions arising from suddenly a champion being no longer a champion, so they took this step to notify the community that a violation had occurred and that the administration took steps to rectify the situation. Done and done.
The administration could air out all the dirty laundry, but understand that not always is everything 100% black and white. There are areas of grey and sometimes the admin or management has to make a call based on all available evidence. Because of the fact that it isn't always black n white and there are always two sides to a story, it is common practice to make a decision, go through with the act and say as little publicly as possible. Not in an effort to hide anything but to prevent further damage. Sure they could come out and present their entire evidence and there would then be 28 pages of people weighing in with everything from criticizing their decision to praising it. So to what purpose would it aid this situation in any way to do so?
Bottom line. This is a site in which we are all guests. We are here at the invitation of those running it. We play in a wonderful community with people who are volunteers (they don't get paid) and do so for the love of the game and the community. So in the end when something like this happens we have to take their word that they did their due diligence. That their decisions are sound, practical, reasonable and fair, for we are the ones who have to live with it. If you can't accept it, then maybe this isn't the place for you because that is how this place is.
I, for one, am quite pleased with the process we have seen here. As a person who has been in the situation of having to deal with the admin on a delicate subject, I feel now like I did then. It is all to easy to swing the ban hammer and spread a person's dirty laundry out for everyone on the Internet to see. It is too easy to share everything and let the community rage on. It is much more difficult but more responsible to take action like they did, to say what they did and leave it there. Sure they may get some gruff, but in the end the integrity of the person in question, this site and the admin is preserved.
Well done.
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Post by nevadaballin on Apr 16, 2015 19:49:59 GMT -5
Having been an Operations Manger of a call center of over 1500 employees, I can fully understand the desire of the community to know they why and how of this situation. That being said, understand that a terminated employee or someone who was part of this community and is no longer here does have some rights to privacy, EVEN IF they are fully 100% in the wrong. I personally applaud the administration in taking the steps that they have. They understood that there might be questions arising from suddenly a champion being no longer a champion, so they took this step to notify the community that a violation had occurred and that the administration took steps to rectify the situation. Done and done. The administration could air out all the dirty laundry, but understand that not always is everything 100% black and white. There are areas of grey and sometimes the admin or management has to make a call based on all available evidence. Because of the fact that it isn't always black n white and there are always two sides to a story, it is common practice to make a decision, go through with the act and say as little publicly as possible. Not in an effort to hide anything but to prevent further damage. Sure they could come out and present their entire evidence and there would then be 28 pages of people weighing in with everything from criticizing their decision to praising it. So to what purpose would it aid this situation in any way to do so? Bottom line. This is a site in which we are all guests. We are here at the invitation of those running it. We play in a wonderful community with people who are volunteers (they don't get paid) and do so for the love of the game and the community. So in the end when something like this happens we have to take their word that they did their due diligence. That their decisions are sound, practical, reasonable and fair, for we are the ones who have to live with it. If you can't accept it, then maybe this isn't the place for you because that is how this place is. I, for one, am quite pleased with the process we have seen here. As a person who has been in the situation of having to deal with the admin on a delicate subject, I feel now like I did then. It is all to easy to swing the ban hammer and spread a person's dirty laundry out for everyone on the Internet to see. It is too easy to share everything and let the community rage on. It is much more difficult but more responsible to take action like they did, to say what they did and leave it there. Sure they may get some gruff, but in the end the integrity of the person in question, this site and the admin is preserved. Well done. We share similar careers... who knew? lol Also, spot on explanation. |
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 16, 2015 20:07:51 GMT -5
I'm no longer in that career. After making site director I decided that I did better working on my own, so I have started my own business where I'm the boss.
Thanks tho.
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Post by misternic on Apr 16, 2015 20:13:27 GMT -5
For me, the leadership here has done more than enough for me to trust them. There are certain rights afforded as noted, and I think this was handled professionally.
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Post by theclv24 on Apr 16, 2015 20:19:35 GMT -5
Having been an Operations Manger of a call center of over 1500 employees, I can fully understand the desire of the community to know they why and how of this situation. That being said, understand that a terminated employee or someone who was part of this community and is no longer here does have some rights to privacy, EVEN IF they are fully 100% in the wrong. I personally applaud the administration in taking the steps that they have. They understood that there might be questions arising from suddenly a champion being no longer a champion, so they took this step to notify the community that a violation had occurred and that the administration took steps to rectify the situation. Done and done. The administration could air out all the dirty laundry, but understand that not always is everything 100% black and white. There are areas of grey and sometimes the admin or management has to make a call based on all available evidence. Because of the fact that it isn't always black n white and there are always two sides to a story, it is common practice to make a decision, go through with the act and say as little publicly as possible. Not in an effort to hide anything but to prevent further damage. Sure they could come out and present their entire evidence and there would then be 28 pages of people weighing in with everything from criticizing their decision to praising it. So to what purpose would it aid this situation in any way to do so? Bottom line. This is a site in which we are all guests. We are here at the invitation of those running it. We play in a wonderful community with people who are volunteers (they don't get paid) and do so for the love of the game and the community. So in the end when something like this happens we have to take their word that they did their due diligence. That their decisions are sound, practical, reasonable and fair, for we are the ones who have to live with it. If you can't accept it, then maybe this isn't the place for you because that is how this place is. I, for one, am quite pleased with the process we have seen here. As a person who has been in the situation of having to deal with the admin on a delicate subject, I feel now like I did then. It is all to easy to swing the ban hammer and spread a person's dirty laundry out for everyone on the Internet to see. It is too easy to share everything and let the community rage on. It is much more difficult but more responsible to take action like they did, to say what they did and leave it there. Sure they may get some gruff, but in the end the integrity of the person in question, this site and the admin is preserved. Well done. Excellent post! |
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Post by JoeOP on Apr 16, 2015 21:04:35 GMT -5
Ok, I'm starting to delete posts because people are starting to speculate. If you have a concern about the way our tours are operating, please PM an admin. Otherwise, please do not make guesses as to why we have made this decision. If we could share more, we would, but at this time, we can not. Then perhaps the guilty party should be named and what exactly the infraction was. End the speculation and the deleting of posts. Why exactly is this top secret stuff? |
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Post by Brighttail on Apr 16, 2015 21:08:18 GMT -5
Ok, I'm starting to delete posts because people are starting to speculate. If you have a concern about the way our tours are operating, please PM an admin. Otherwise, please do not make guesses as to why we have made this decision. If we could share more, we would, but at this time, we can not. Then perhaps the guilty party should be named and what exactly the infraction was. End the speculation and the deleting of posts. Why exactly is this top secret stuff? Read my post as to why this is not the optimal solution.  |
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JoeOP
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Post by JoeOP on Apr 16, 2015 21:11:32 GMT -5
Then perhaps the guilty party should be named and what exactly the infraction was. End the speculation and the deleting of posts. Why exactly is this top secret stuff? Read my post as to why this is not the optimal solution. I did - sounds overly dramatic. This is a golf video game. Not real life. |
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