bigmike
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Post by bigmike on Nov 27, 2020 23:55:15 GMT -5
Is there anyone hitting perfects consistently using master level clubs? Seems like I see alot of guys' bags containing beginner level irons and wedges with the same mismatching 3 iron. Is it really that much more of a legitimate challenge to hit perfects with these clubs?
In my experience I found it easier with the silver and gold clubs but at the sacrifice of distance of course.
Just playing devil's advocate here: In my real life golf game I cannot for the life of me hit the ball right to left. I don't slice, but I hit every ball left to right. I play that, I know exactly how far each club is going to typically fade if I strike it clean and I aim left appropriately. If one of The Golf Channel's infomercials was selling a set of clubs that let me hit it straight without actually fixing my swing would that make me more legit?
I can play both ways, right now I have a preference which was the opposite of how I felt 4 weeks ago. But what I would remind everyone is to be careful with some of the elitist type of talking down those who play a different way than you. None of us, whether we are competing on Platinum or struggling to make the cut on CC-L are cheating. Golf is a unique individual sport, play it the way that gives you enjoyment within the rules of TGCTours, and the way that you can achieve improvement and consistency in.
Also,from what I've seen playing with a wide range of ghost balls in my journey from CC-C to Elite, it's not tee to green that separates the great players from decent players, it's 65 yards in and especially putting.
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Post by twofor22 on Nov 28, 2020 0:11:40 GMT -5
I don't even know what colour my clubs are, but I picked ones that I figured I could hit pretty consistently. I think the driver is purple and I probably hit perfect with it more often than anything else other than short irons and wedges. This mirrors my real life game. I rarely mishit my driver or fairway woods, it might not always go exactly where I want but there aren't any duck hooks or wild slices, it's usually in the fairway or a little off the edge either side. Same with the short clubs approaching greens. Normally when I miss it's an alignment issue rather than poor contact.
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bigmike
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Post by bigmike on Nov 28, 2020 6:53:39 GMT -5
Normally when I miss it's an alignment issue rather than poor contact. This drives me nuts lol. I'll hit what feels like a perfect shot only to miss left or right. So I'll lay the club down my feet and look at my divot and yup, right where I'm aiming lol
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Post by zooby97 on Nov 28, 2020 7:35:59 GMT -5
I can play both ways, right now I have a preference which was the opposite of how I felt 4 weeks ago. But what I would remind everyone is to be careful with some of the elitist type of talking down those who play a different way than you. None of us, whether we are competing on Platinum or struggling to make the cut on CC-L are cheating. Golf is a unique individual sport, play it the way that gives you enjoyment within the rules of TGCTours, and the way that you can achieve improvement and consistency in. Also,from what I've seen playing with a wide range of ghost balls in my journey from CC-C to Elite, it's not tee to green that separates the great players from decent players, it's 65 yards in and especially putting. ———————————————————— In the end it is still just a video game and people will exploit. But do the worlds best players need to play this way to win? Apparently they do. They have figured it out and will use it to their advantage on the Tours. Personally i like to play the game it was intended to do. I have watched video on this FAST method and approach shots are within 15 feet of the hole on a consistent basis. I’ve just started to play this game back in Oct and I’m starting to drill my 15 ft putts with more ease. The best players do it in their sleep. Just look at the scores on some of the other society tournaments. Extreme low 50s for each round. Getting every eagle opportunity and birdie. Duck hooks is not real golf. I also feel this way just messes up the TGC Tours. I won’t call it cheating. They figured on how to beat the game and in the end it takes the rest of the players out of contention. Why not have a separate Tour for all of the FAST players?
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Post by davieboy321 on Nov 28, 2020 7:39:45 GMT -5
Play on XB1...........is like real f##king golf
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Post by davieboy321 on Nov 28, 2020 7:43:21 GMT -5
just checked bradley garcia stats for last round this week, he hit 60% GIR but still had birdie fest. He must be hitting em in from everywhere!
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Post by zooby97 on Nov 28, 2020 8:49:08 GMT -5
Once you get the FASTS mapped out then the approach shots are deadly. Just watch the videos. It is scary. And an amateur can putt from those distances after those shots.
Why did the scores increase this week on the Platinum Tour?
Now of course there are still great players who have it dialed in but come on....
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Post by zooby97 on Nov 28, 2020 9:32:07 GMT -5
just checked bradley garcia stats for last round this week, he hit 60% GIR but still had birdie fest. He must be hitting em in from everywhere! What happened to Sloan? 68 on the final round?
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Post by mrohde4 on Nov 28, 2020 10:32:34 GMT -5
Is there anyone hitting perfects consistently using master level clubs? Seems like I see alot of guys' bags containing beginner level irons and wedges with the same mismatching 3 iron. Is it really that much more of a legitimate challenge to hit perfects with these clubs? In my experience I found it easier with the silver and gold clubs but at the sacrifice of distance of course. Just playing devil's advocate here: In my real life golf game I cannot for the life of me hit the ball right to left. I don't slice, but I hit every ball left to right. I play that, I know exactly how far each club is going to typically fade if I strike it clean and I aim left appropriately. If one of The Golf Channel's infomercials was selling a set of clubs that let me hit it straight without actually fixing my swing would that make me more legit? I can play both ways, right now I have a preference which was the opposite of how I felt 4 weeks ago. But what I would remind everyone is to be careful with some of the elitist type of talking down those who play a different way than you. None of us, whether we are competing on Platinum or struggling to make the cut on CC-L are cheating. Golf is a unique individual sport, play it the way that gives you enjoyment within the rules of TGCTours, and the way that you can achieve improvement and consistency in. Also,from what I've seen playing with a wide range of ghost balls in my journey from CC-C to Elite, it's not tee to green that separates the great players from decent players, it's 65 yards in and especially putting. Attempting to draw analogies between playing golf in real life and the digital representations of a computer program doesn’t accomplish much in my opinion. Golf is an athletic endeavor. We’re playing a game coded by computer software. It’s like comparing actual foreign conflict to chess or Call of Duty. Calling the red fast strategy “my draw” or the “way I play” (not saying you Big Mike but it’s a common argument) is a disingenuous description and failure of a justification. Ask yourself why people gravitate toward the duck hook red fast. The software’s designers created the gameplay by including both a tempo and accuracy difficulty component. A player must become proficient at both in order for the shot’s result to resemble the player’s intent. One might have an argument if the designers labeled it “medium” instead of “perfect.” Playing a red fast on every full shot is a deliberate attempt to sidestep the tempo component of the game’s design. It’s HB’s fault because competitive players will always find the angles, but don’t argue the red fast is simply the player’s personal style of playing. Again, maybe if it was labeled Medium. But the tutorials and labeling of Perfect clearly indicate the designers intended for players to overcome the tempo difficulty.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Nov 28, 2020 10:58:50 GMT -5
just checked bradley garcia stats for last round this week, he hit 60% GIR but still had birdie fest. He must be hitting em in from everywhere! Hit 11 GIR's, had 10 birdies, 7 pars, and a bogey. Two birdies were chip-ins from missed GIR (longest was from 6.5 yards). He also went -8 over the 11 made GIRs and got up and down on all the other missed GIRs for par. This seems perfectly normal for the best score on the highest tour.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Nov 28, 2020 11:01:13 GMT -5
Why did the scores increase this week on the Platinum Tour? The course was tough and some of the round conditions made it even tougher.
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bigmike
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Post by bigmike on Nov 28, 2020 11:38:40 GMT -5
My question is then am I doing it wrong lmao.I play my consistent tempo, which is more red fast. BUT I see multiple guys here referring to it as a duck hook and how guys can easily stick their approach within 5-10 feet. I miss left and I miss right. I hit some great shots but a great proximity to the hole for me is still 22 feet or so, I probably average 26 or 27 if I'm playing solid. My ball flight definitely doesn't resemble a duck hook. And I'm afraid of the shot where you end up in a one handed finish and THAT duck hooks. Are you guys telling me there are guys playing THAT shot??
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Post by robn on Nov 28, 2020 15:38:24 GMT -5
My question is then am I doing it wrong lmao.I play my consistent tempo, which is more red fast. BUT I see multiple guys here referring to it as a duck hook and how guys can easily stick their approach within 5-10 feet. I miss left and I miss right. I hit some great shots but a great proximity to the hole for me is still 22 feet or so, I probably average 26 or 27 if I'm playing solid. My ball flight definitely doesn't resemble a duck hook. And I'm afraid of the shot where you end up in a one handed finish and THAT duck hooks. Are you guys telling me there are guys playing THAT shot?? No, they're just using exaggeration by calling it a duck hook, when it is in fact nothing of the sort, to try and bolster their opinion on the matter....and then cite others as being disingenuous to boot.
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Post by zooby97 on Nov 28, 2020 16:08:21 GMT -5
My question is then am I doing it wrong lmao.I play my consistent tempo, which is more red fast. BUT I see multiple guys here referring to it as a duck hook and how guys can easily stick their approach within 5-10 feet. I miss left and I miss right. I hit some great shots but a great proximity to the hole for me is still 22 feet or so, I probably average 26 or 27 if I'm playing solid. My ball flight definitely doesn't resemble a duck hook. And I'm afraid of the shot where you end up in a one handed finish and THAT duck hooks. Are you guys telling me there are guys playing THAT shot?? These FAST players have it all mapped out. Now some courses will affect their play and they are still very good players. But they have done their homework but once they have it set it is easy pickings for them IMHO. The video said it all for me. The guy who did the video said it is scary and probably needs to be fixed to a degree. But once it ever is they will find another angle. They always do. Heck, I give them credit, they are good. I wouldn’t ever play that way to begin with as I like just straight up golf like I am on the actual course. I still feel this style of play diminishes the TGC Tour. But it is not the players fault so I’ll never bash them for doing it. And they still have to map it out with the wind, elevation,ect....
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Post by gatorman on Nov 28, 2020 21:30:21 GMT -5
My question is then am I doing it wrong lmao.I play my consistent tempo, which is more red fast. BUT I see multiple guys here referring to it as a duck hook and how guys can easily stick their approach within 5-10 feet. I miss left and I miss right. I hit some great shots but a great proximity to the hole for me is still 22 feet or so, I probably average 26 or 27 if I'm playing solid. My ball flight definitely doesn't resemble a duck hook. And I'm afraid of the shot where you end up in a one handed finish and THAT duck hooks. Are you guys telling me there are guys playing THAT shot?? These FAST players have it all mapped out. Now some courses will affect their play and they are still very good players. But they have done their homework but once they have it set it is easy pickings for them IMHO. The video said it all for me. The guy who did the video said it is scary and probably needs to be fixed to a degree. But once it ever is they will find another angle. They always do. Heck, I give them credit, they are good. I wouldn’t ever play that way to begin with as I like just straight up golf like I am on the actual course. I still feel this style of play diminishes the TGC Tour. But it is not the players fault so I’ll never bash them for doing it. And they still have to map it out with the wind, elevation,ect.... What video are you talking about? I’d like to see it.
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