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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 10:44:39 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what to think about these balls - way above my pay grade. There's enough going on in this game already without having to worry about attributes on different balls. Personally I would be happy if everyone used default balls and use of other balls could be controlled somehow - if not then I will find a ball that suits my game and go with it, providing it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg! Just wanted to post this recent scorecard cos it's my best performance using Master and conditions were firm and fast, wind low to medium, so very happy with this progress. Still very much aware that 1 hole can blow you out of the water but what pleased me most was that I had a double and a treble in amongst everything else.  Happy punter atm - probably won't last  One thing I am concerned about however. My Avatar has this definite wiggle of the hips when he walks (sashays) off the green. Pretty sure he bats for the other team  🤣 Had a round with Greg the other night. He reckoned my avatar walked like he’d crapped himself 💩 My avatar walks off the green like John Wayne or if you don’t know who he was then like Dustin Johnson after he’s sh%$ himself 🤣 |
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 10:59:36 GMT -5
I have enough trouble hitting the ball in the general direction of the flag to worry about which ball I should be playing with so I’m going to stick with the default ball even though I’ve selected a day glow green one now because I can see it better. I might remind you that lots of people were shouting for a harder game and then they bring a ball or set of balls to the table that quite conceivably make the game easier. If you truly wanted a harder game then why are you using them, a little but like chipping out of bunkers.
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 22, 2022 11:08:06 GMT -5
Will be using the default ball for our events this week, As well as for the TGCTours event. Been playing default since last week when all the events started and haven't looked back. Used to them now. Some of these HB courses leave something to be desired with their greens but what do you expect when they don't play them or at least try them out. Much like the rest of the Quality control. Too many yes men working there and afraid to say " oh I don't think that's a good idea" I very much agree with you here, the new 160 and up greens need to be toned down a bit if you have sloping greens. Designers should be rethinking if they were 170 to 180 range drop into a 160 range |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 11:11:45 GMT -5
I have enough trouble hitting the ball in the general direction of the flag to worry about which ball I should be playing with so I’m going to stick with the default ball even though I’ve selected a day glow green one now because I can see it better. I might remind you that lots of people were shouting for a harder game and then they bring a ball or set of balls to the table that quite conceivably make the game easier. If you truly wanted a harder game then why are you using them, a little but like chipping out of bunkers. Not aware that anyone is using them Les. I haven’t so far. But the point is we wouldn’t know if anyone was using them unless they told us. So easier all round to let people use what they’ve earned/spent VC on if they so wish. My preference would be the ability to lock balls in societies. But then what? Lock skills? Lock fittings? |
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 11:30:34 GMT -5
I have enough trouble hitting the ball in the general direction of the flag to worry about which ball I should be playing with so I’m going to stick with the default ball even though I’ve selected a day glow green one now because I can see it better. I might remind you that lots of people were shouting for a harder game and then they bring a ball or set of balls to the table that quite conceivably make the game easier. If you truly wanted a harder game then why are you using them, a little but like chipping out of bunkers. Not aware that anyone is using them Les. I haven’t so far. But the point is we wouldn’t know if anyone was using them unless they told us. So easier all round to let people use what they’ve earned/spent VC on if they so wish. My preference would be the ability to lock balls in societies. But then what? Lock skills? Lock fittings? I’ve not used them for the reasons mentioned above, I have changed the colour because I’m finding it easier to see against the sky if I take the ball trails off which is my preferred way of playing. As far as I’m concerned if anyone wants to play one of the “special” balls knock yourselves out I couldn’t care less how you play the game. |
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Post by zooby97 on Oct 22, 2022 11:46:00 GMT -5
Someone is doing is homework! I like that! That ball is deadly yeah. But you said something important here. " Ball behave naturally" , like your expecting with the combo of your clubs and your game philosophy. That's the good mindset when you're choosing the special balls you gonna play with. You just play your normal game until the ball behave like your expecting. If you play your nornal game and now have a 22% GIR and you can't make any putts over 10f, you're picking a bad one for your style/clubs shaping As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
I don’t have a problem with the fittings with regards to the TGC Tours. On the real PGA golf tour some players clubs are more superior to other players clubs. Some might remember when Nike first got involved with the golf clubs people and even golfers were saying why is Tiger using an inferior golf club brand like Nike? It is the players choice whether they want more or less fittings. I don’t think you can take a below CC-L player and give him maxed out clubs and expect him to shoot right into Platinum just because of fittings, ect… |
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 11:49:04 GMT -5
As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
I don’t have a problem with the fittings with regards to the TGC Tours. On the real PGA golf tour some players clubs are more superior to other players clubs. Some might remember when Nike first got involved with the golf clubs people and even golfers were saying why is Tiger using an inferior golf club brand like Nike? It is the players choice whether they want more or less fittings. I don’t think you can take a below CC-L player and give him maxed out clubs and expect him to shoot right into Platinum just because of fittings, ect… Oh sh%$ that’s where I’m going wrong assuming the fittings and allocation of my points will make me good enough to jump from CC-L to the top tour at the next Q school. 🤣🤣 |
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Oct 22, 2022 11:54:45 GMT -5
Just for info , I've only used default ball. Even in a society where the organiser wasnt bothered ( but he may want us to use default when practice ends).
In truth I really dont understand them
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 11:57:30 GMT -5
The one thing you can’t say about all these golf games are that they’re boring there’s always something for us players to argue about isn’t there 🤣🤣
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 22, 2022 13:10:16 GMT -5
The Brew Crew - Test Event 2 - SnakebiteIn response to feedback you will be allowed to use any ball this coming week. This will give anybody the opportunity to test the consumable balls if they so wish. At the present time there is no indication that you will be able to lock ball type in society settings. So with the possibility that TGCT will have no choice but to allow them, our test events should give players the opportunity to try them out. Have a read at Eric's InsanericK posts for some interesting observations. TLDR - Balls open All I have to say is.... |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 13:15:01 GMT -5
Just for info , I've only used default ball. Even in a society where the organiser wasnt bothered ( but he may want us to use default when practice ends). In truth I really dont understand them Not a lot to understand Darren (well maybe for a Mackem 😉). Just the same as the club fittings really. Change the characteristics of your balls. Improves some things at the expense of other. Apart from the overpowered balls it doesn’t look that much of an issue. |
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Post by Kie on Oct 22, 2022 13:29:22 GMT -5
BREAKING BALL NEWS.
Tried Eric's favourite the Common Grey Redline CV1 (Bargain at only 180 VC for 12):
Spin 50 (+15)
Flight 25 (-10)
Bounce 69 (+4)
Roll 56 (-9)
The -9 roll attribute reduced the the default Green Speed from 157 to 153.
The -10 Flight attribute had no real effect on my club distances with all either staying the same or reducing by 1 or max 2.
ENDS.
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Oct 22, 2022 13:55:50 GMT -5
Just for info , I've only used default ball. Even in a society where the organiser wasnt bothered ( but he may want us to use default when practice ends). In truth I really dont understand them Not a lot to understand Darren (well maybe for a Mackem 😉). Just the same as the club fittings really. Change the characteristics of your balls. Improves some things at the expense of other. Apart from the overpowered balls it doesn’t look that much of an issue. Moody mackem at minute ha. Just not really gave them a look as dunno what more of each or less of each does to the shot. Guess it may appear in club attributes if I set a sleeve up and messed around. Still not a lover of those and skill tree in truth. |
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Post by asyoudo64 on Oct 22, 2022 16:36:26 GMT -5
Art Vandelay I've given up after 2.5 rounds and there is not enough time to come back to this when the steam has stopped coming out of my ears. Positives: - Masters tempo off the tee and with irons is good on my Series S. Nothing particularly random occurred - Putting is OK except the back swing on the short putts but still manageable (although I am focussing on Greensman). Negatives: - Don’t put pins on orange slopes again. The 4th pin on R2 was on orange. I putted it from about 25 feet uphill and it stopped an inch short and then rolled back to my feet. - Anything around the green under 20 yards is a joke. I'm completely lost. Most of my dropped shots each round have come from a couple of quadruple bogeys or worse from Splash shots or green side chips The tempo is completely fcuked on these. I cannot hit the ball slow enough, even trying my putting stroke. At the moment this a gamebreaker for me.  Hang in there with the chipping Ken. I was rubbish the first week and then started to get the hang of it. Anything in the fringe, I'm putting now. Just like I do in the real game of golf. |
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Post by asyoudo64 on Oct 22, 2022 16:37:38 GMT -5
Art Vandelay I've given up after 2.5 rounds and there is not enough time to come back to this when the steam has stopped coming out of my ears. Positives: - Masters tempo off the tee and with irons is good on my Series S. Nothing particularly random occurred - Putting is OK except the back swing on the short putts but still manageable (although I am focussing on Greensman). Negatives: - Don’t put pins on orange slopes again. The 4th pin on R2 was on orange. I putted it from about 25 feet uphill and it stopped an inch short and then rolled back to my feet. - Anything around the green under 20 yards is a joke. I'm completely lost. Most of my dropped shots each round have come from a couple of quadruple bogeys or worse from Splash shots or green side chips The tempo is completely fcuked on these. I cannot hit the ball slow enough, even trying my putting stroke. At the moment this a gamebreaker for me. Hang in there with the chipping Ken. I was rubbish the first week and then started to get the hang of it. Anything in the fringe, I'm putting now. Just like I do in the real game of golf. Also forget about splash shots all together. They just don't work. Chip and flop out of bunkers. |
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