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Post by Kie on Oct 22, 2022 9:13:30 GMT -5
I felt like the ball behaved naturally/realistically on the greens in terms of bouncing and rolling out.
Someone is doing is homework! I like that! That ball is deadly yeah. But you said something important here. " Ball behave naturally" , like your expecting with the combo of your clubs and your game philosophy. That's the good mindset when you're choosing the special balls you gonna play with. You just play your normal game until the ball behave like your expecting. If you play your nornal game and now have a 22% GIR and you can't make any putts over 10f, you're picking a bad one for your style/clubs shaping As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 9:20:23 GMT -5
Someone is doing is homework! I like that! That ball is deadly yeah. But you said something important here. " Ball behave naturally" , like your expecting with the combo of your clubs and your game philosophy. That's the good mindset when you're choosing the special balls you gonna play with. You just play your normal game until the ball behave like your expecting. If you play your nornal game and now have a 22% GIR and you can't make any putts over 10f, you're picking a bad one for your style/clubs shaping As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
At the end of the day we are more than likely to follow what TGCT decide. |
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 22, 2022 9:25:38 GMT -5
Someone is doing is homework! I like that! That ball is deadly yeah. But you said something important here. " Ball behave naturally" , like your expecting with the combo of your clubs and your game philosophy. That's the good mindset when you're choosing the special balls you gonna play with. You just play your normal game until the ball behave like your expecting. If you play your nornal game and now have a 22% GIR and you can't make any putts over 10f, you're picking a bad one for your style/clubs shaping As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
Well for fittings you can forget that. It's not free to remove fittings and put them back. That's way worst than all the balls things imo. I have an idea why they did that other than just sucking VC's (cause otherwise, I would get 100 red fittings that could fit all kind of archetypes, now I have to make a choice ans craft my fittings for the archetype I have choosed), but still. If you really think about it, it's just like they would have charged you 5000 VC's in 2K21 cause you wanted to change your silver clubs to gold clubs. Same level of douchebagery! Way worst than the ball I think. I have blown around 25K just to try some fittings, remove them and trying others |
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Post by bogeyman on Oct 22, 2022 9:25:45 GMT -5
As far as I could see it just gave me more distance and slowed the greens down. I wouldn't be going out of my way to use it personally, I'm quite happy using the default ball I think.
But as you say it is probably worth researching the other balls, particularly the cheaper ones in case there are some more subtle nuances in there.
It just doesn't feel right to me to be playing a tournament where not everyone is playing the same green speeds.
For TGC tour purposes, I'd be quite happy if it was pick an archetype, default ball off we go (no skills or fittings) but that isn't going to happen so I guess we have to move with the times!
At the end of the day we are more than likely to follow what TGCT decide. Amen to that ! |
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 22, 2022 9:50:53 GMT -5
You must wear a kilt for the above. Been there, done that! 😆 OMG I love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 22, 2022 9:51:36 GMT -5
The Green speed is what it is when you are on the green putting but not to worry Les I will take a look later, I have Hogan's and will add Perth sometime today. Ah ok Carol I can get them for you later but from memory they’re all around the 150 mark All sorted out sweetie |
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Post by inflames47 on Oct 22, 2022 9:54:51 GMT -5
I'll answer to all at the same time. I got the game since october 11th and I'm in vacations. I'm 3 months ahead in this! 😛 So let's talk about these balls a little bit. Are they all better than default? Depend on alot of factors. There's one creating more ball spinning and more rolling. A little rolling nightmare. Cause someone said it... default ball is good until you meet an orange slopes or very fast greens. To be more specific, the default ball is having alot of problems braking when it's on a downhill slope. Even on greens of 140, you could watch your ball roll and roll out of the green on a pretty normal downhill slope. Still possible to play, but you gonna have to shot fully lofted, reducing tempo and on top of that, aiming like 2K21 won't make it. You will still need to calculate alot of rolling with your fully lofted shot. It's complicated when a ball costing 15 VC can cure all of this and have a more enjoyable game. Here's a little guide for those who haven't tried any balls outside default.There's 4 kind of ball. My favorite are the one with "spinning top" on it. Called Toupie in french. Let's take the silver cheap one. Compared to default ball, this one have more effect, less distance, a little bit more rebound and less rolling. Since my clubs are all high on shot trajectory, this little silver ball is enough to shut every negatice effects of the default one. This is the perfect ball for me. If you designed your clubs with lots of tempo and took a tempo favorable archetype, maybe you will want the ball that gives more distance to compensate your short forgiving clubs. You will lose effects, gain some rebound and have less rolling than default one. Here's the worst things to do with these balls right now. Trying to be smarter than the course and conditions. Like, let's use a power ball on long courses, and take one with no rolling on small greens. Maybe in 6 months for that. Or playing 20 rounds in the week with default ball and going legendary on sunday for your big rounds. Your whole game is gonna be derailed. My suggestion is that you explore GREY balls first. Differences with default are mild. Don't go higher than grey for now. Try them all, and pick one. Stay with it. Play a round with it, go back to default, go back again to your silver one that you choosed. See the differences. Once you're sure that you have found the right one for you, it's time to explore a bit. Try a green one of the SAME kind again. Then maybe blue and eventually purple. I still don't use legendary balls. Cause yeah, I couldn't afford them for all my rounds, and they would surprise me cause now you get a complete different animal than default or even grey or green ones! Good information there.. appreciated your take on things |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 10:06:38 GMT -5
The Brew Crew - Test Event 2 - SnakebiteIn response to feedback you will be allowed to use any ball this coming week. This will give anybody the opportunity to test the consumable balls if they so wish. At the present time there is no indication that you will be able to lock ball type in society settings. So with the possibility that TGCT will have no choice but to allow them, our test events should give players the opportunity to try them out. Have a read at Eric's InsanericK posts for some interesting observations. TLDR - Balls open
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Post by TimB on Oct 22, 2022 10:08:12 GMT -5
Will be using the default ball for our events this week, As well as for the TGCTours event. Been playing default since last week when all the events started and haven't looked back. Used to them now.
Some of these HB courses leave something to be desired with their greens but what do you expect when they don't play them or at least try them out. Much like the rest of the Quality control. Too many yes men working there and afraid to say " oh I don't think that's a good idea"
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Post by sid snott on Oct 22, 2022 10:29:21 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what to think about these balls - way above my pay grade. There's enough going on in this game already without having to worry about attributes on different balls. Personally I would be happy if everyone used default balls and use of other balls could be controlled somehow - if not then I will find a ball that suits my game and go with it, providing it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg! Just wanted to post this recent scorecard cos it's my best performance using Master and conditions were firm and fast, wind low to medium, so very happy with this progress. Still very much aware that 1 hole can blow you out of the water but what pleased me most was that I had a double and a treble in amongst everything else.  Happy punter atm - probably won't last  One thing I am concerned about however. My Avatar has this definite wiggle of the hips when he walks (sashays) off the green. Pretty sure he bats for the other team  You vain bugger, admiring your own backside. I've been having a sneaky look at my caddy's without her noticing. I think she likes me , she'talks to me and hasn't told me to f off yet. |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 10:36:13 GMT -5
Will be using the default ball for our events this week, As well as for the TGCTours event. Been playing default since last week when all the events started and haven't looked back. Used to them now. Some of these HB courses leave something to be desired with their greens but what do you expect when they don't play them or at least try them out. Much like the rest of the Quality control. Too many yes men working there and afraid to say " oh I don't think that's a good idea" To be fair there is nothing to stop you using them in TGCT events so we’re only mirroring them which is where we’ll no doubt end up anyway. |
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Post by TimB on Oct 22, 2022 10:36:41 GMT -5
I've been having a sneaky look at my caddy's without her noticing. I think she likes me , she'talks to me and hasn't told me to f off yet. My caddy must hate me. I apparently (according to Hetty,Penny, Henny or whatever her name is) keeps saying "he's had a disagreement with his caddy" |
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Post by xxdannyxxo on Oct 22, 2022 10:39:08 GMT -5
SkyBlueBen I think you should reconsider your position about consumable ball. First, outside legendary balls, they are all affordable. They might not look right now cause y'all wasting a truckload of VC on upgrading your clubs. Once this painfull step is passed, your bankroll will get better. 12 silver balls costs 180 VC. Enough for CC, Brew Crew and 7 other rounds. You'll get at least 750 VC back by just playing these 12 rounds. That's another 48 balls you can buy, etc... But most important point. While I'm not happy about these balls too, the default one suck on purpose and these balls are a legit part of your bag, just like anything else. Asking for default ball only is exaclty the same than asking to not use your driver or don't upgrade your clubs higher than purple fittings Fair point Eric. I can't say I'm a fan of the default ball and it's definitely been set up to encourage players not to use it. Be interesting to see what TGCT do. Until then, what does everyone think? Should we have no restrictions on balls? couldnt agree more on this as WGT uses same system for balls (in a way)
as for ball use not tried any yet so no clue of differences intend too though as sure ive got a few (just cant see how many lol) apart from that ball that changes green speed maybe
myself ive not added a single fitting yet as only got 7 legends 6 purples 3 blue 2 green 0 grey lol
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 10:41:50 GMT -5
You must wear a kilt for the above. Been there, done that! 😆 My man has a kilt as well |
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Post by TimB on Oct 22, 2022 10:42:33 GMT -5
To be fair there is nothing to stop you using them in TGCT events so we’re only mirroring them which is where we’ll no doubt end up anyway. If some time down the road depending on how the courses are designed and setup I'll reserve the right to use a consumable if that is what it appears everyone else is doing. If I'm using a default ball 180+ plus greens with pins on huge crowns and I'm finishing 20 over par every round because of it then I'll do what everyone else will be doing. The ball so to speak is in the designers hands. It's up to them how they want to design the greens, I just hope common sense is used. Right now playing career on mostly default green speeds I manage ok, always under par. Have yet to have a bogey free round though. |
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