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Post by zooby97 on Oct 22, 2022 6:46:04 GMT -5
Art Vandelay I've given up after 2.5 rounds and there is not enough time to come back to this when the steam has stopped coming out of my ears. Positives: - Masters tempo off the tee and with irons is good on my Series S. Nothing particularly random occurred - Putting is OK except the back swing on the short putts but still manageable (although I am focussing on Greensman). Negatives: - Don’t put pins on orange slopes again. The 4th pin on R2 was on orange. I putted it from about 25 feet uphill and it stopped an inch short and then rolled back to my feet. - Anything around the green under 20 yards is a joke. I'm completely lost. Most of my dropped shots each round have come from a couple of quadruple bogeys or worse from Splash shots or green side chips The tempo is completely fcuked on these. I cannot hit the ball slow enough, even trying my putting stroke. At the moment this a gamebreaker for me.  There is already a meta with chipping from the bunkers as it is much easier than the splash. Just use chip and move your marker in front of pin depending on the slope. Loft it and full backspin with your two sticks and hit it and it will be much closer for an easier putt. And under 20 ft around greens is really easy now if you just full loft and full back spin the chip and move the marker 2 or 3 feet in front of the pin as well as it will slow or stop near the pin depending on the slope. For me my putting method is slightly different. I use a count method depending on color of the breaks. For uphill I use my same counts but I push back my power 1 foot and I’m getting more putts now where as before I was short. Now on downhill putts with the breaks I’m still a mess. And of course try to grind away in career mode as your character gets better. Game is different no doubt. |
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 22, 2022 6:49:08 GMT -5
SkyBlueBenI think you should reconsider your position about consumable ball. First, outside legendary balls, they are all affordable. They might not look right now cause y'all wasting a truckload of VC on upgrading your clubs. Once this painfull step is passed, your bankroll will get better. 12 silver balls costs 180 VC. Enough for CC, Brew Crew and 7 other rounds. You'll get at least 750 VC back by just playing these 12 rounds. That's another 48 balls you can buy, etc... But most important point. While I'm not happy about these balls too, the default one suck on purpose and these balls are a legit part of your bag, just like anything else. Asking for default ball only is exaclty the same than asking to not use your driver or don't upgrade your clubs higher than purple fittings
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 6:53:37 GMT -5
SkyBlueBen I think you should reconsider your position about consumable ball. First, outside legendary balls, they are all affordable. They might not look right now cause y'all wasting a truckload of VC on upgrading your clubs. Once this painfull step is passed, your bankroll will get better. 12 silver balls costs 180 VC. Enough for CC, Brew Crew and 7 other rounds. You'll get at least 750 VC back by just playing these 12 rounds. That's another 48 balls you can buy, etc... But most important point. While I'm not happy about these balls too, the default one suck on purpose and these balls are a legit part of your bag, just like anything else. Asking for default ball only is exaclty the same than asking to not use your driver or don't upgrade your clubs higher than purple fittings Fair point Eric. I can't say I'm a fan of the default ball and it's definitely been set up to encourage players not to use it. Be interesting to see what TGCT do. Until then, what does everyone think? Should we have no restrictions on balls? |
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Post by Bova Kian on Oct 22, 2022 6:58:19 GMT -5
Until then, what does everyone think? Should we have no restrictions on balls?You must wear a kilt for the above. |
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 7:00:35 GMT -5
Until then, what does everyone think? Should we have no restrictions on balls?You must wear a kilt for the above. No cross dressing on my watch.... |
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Post by zooby97 on Oct 22, 2022 7:00:37 GMT -5
SkyBlueBenI think you should reconsider your position about consumable ball. First, outside legendary balls, they are all affordable. They might not look right now cause y'all wasting a truckload of VC on upgrading your clubs. Once this painfull step is passed, your bankroll will get better. 12 silver balls costs 180 VC. Enough for CC, Brew Crew and 7 other rounds. You'll get at least 750 VC back by just playing these 12 rounds. That's another 48 balls you can buy, etc... But most important point. While I'm not happy about these balls too, the default one suck on purpose and these balls are a legit part of your bag, just like anything else. Asking for default ball only is exaclty the same than asking to not use your driver or don't upgrade your clubs higher than purple fittings I would agree as you make perfect sense. I think Ben is just still in test mode as everybody is not at level 50 yet. People also just got the game and are still learning the basic mechanics again. But I do agree the ball issue was somewhat blown way out of proportion but only if you leveled up high enough to get your fittings maxed. I have yet to even use a different ball. I’ve been on default balls since Day 1. I see that I accumulate different balls during my career mode but have yet to spend any VC on any as of yet. |
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Post by lessangster on Oct 22, 2022 7:10:02 GMT -5
I don’t see anything wrong with using the default ball it’s fine for general play but not if you putt flags on orange slopes or use fast greens.
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 22, 2022 7:46:56 GMT -5
Until then, what does everyone think? Should we have no restrictions on balls?You must wear a kilt for the above. Been there, done that! 😆 |
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 22, 2022 8:19:51 GMT -5
I'll answer to all at the same time. I got the game since october 11th and I'm in vacations. I'm 3 months ahead in this! 😛
So let's talk about these balls a little bit. Are they all better than default? Depend on alot of factors. There's one creating more ball spinning and more rolling. A little rolling nightmare.
Cause someone said it... default ball is good until you meet an orange slopes or very fast greens. To be more specific, the default ball is having alot of problems braking when it's on a downhill slope. Even on greens of 140, you could watch your ball roll and roll out of the green on a pretty normal downhill slope. Still possible to play, but you gonna have to shot fully lofted, reducing tempo and on top of that, aiming like 2K21 won't make it. You will still need to calculate alot of rolling with your fully lofted shot. It's complicated when a ball costing 15 VC can cure all of this and have a more enjoyable game.
Here's a little guide for those who haven't tried any balls outside default.There's 4 kind of ball. My favorite are the one with "spinning top" on it. Called Toupie in french.
Let's take the silver cheap one. Compared to default ball, this one have more effect, less distance, a little bit more rebound and less rolling. Since my clubs are all high on shot trajectory, this little silver ball is enough to shut every negatice effects of the default one. This is the perfect ball for me.
If you designed your clubs with lots of tempo and took a tempo favorable archetype, maybe you will want the ball that gives more distance to compensate your short forgiving clubs. You will lose effects, gain some rebound and have less rolling than default one.
Here's the worst things to do with these balls right now. Trying to be smarter than the course and conditions. Like, let's use a power ball on long courses, and take one with no rolling on small greens. Maybe in 6 months for that. Or playing 20 rounds in the week with default ball and going legendary on sunday for your big rounds. Your whole game is gonna be derailed.
My suggestion is that you explore GREY balls first. Differences with default are mild. Don't go higher than grey for now. Try them all, and pick one. Stay with it. Play a round with it, go back to default, go back again to your silver one that you choosed. See the differences. Once you're sure that you have found the right one for you, it's time to explore a bit. Try a green one of the SAME kind again. Then maybe blue and eventually purple. I still don't use legendary balls. Cause yeah, I couldn't afford them for all my rounds, and they would surprise me cause now you get a complete different animal than default or even grey or green ones!
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Post by Kie on Oct 22, 2022 8:35:17 GMT -5
I just played a round with the public enemy number 1 ball the Legendary Aviator LV1 (900 VC for 12):
Spin 40 (+5) Flight 95 (+60) Bounce 46 (-19) Roll 19 (-46)
Played Old Marina GC on default settings; Firm, Firm and 157 greens.
The ball changed the default green speed from 157 to 140.
My Driver distance carry distance with fittings is 297, the ball increased this to 313 (+16 yards, just over 5% increase). With tee and crush its activated it was 319 carry.
3W 259 to 272 (+13 / 5%) 3I 229 to 238 (+9 / 3.9%) 41 199 to 207 (+8 / 4%) 5I 188 195 (+7 / 3.7%)
61 178 185 (+7 / 3.9%)
7I 167 to 173 (+6 / 3.6%)
8I 156 to 162 (+6 / 3.8%)
9I 147 to 150 (+3 / 2.0%)
PW 133 to 138 (+5 / 3.8%)
GW 120 to 123 (+3 / 2.5%)
SW 106 to 109 (+3 / 2.8%)
LW 92 to 94 (+2 / 2.2%)
Didn't seem to change the distances of my chips, flops or pitches with the wedges.
I felt like the ball behaved naturally/realistically on the greens in terms of bouncing and rolling out. I was perhaps expecting some arcade type behaviour give the bounce and roll stats but it certainly didn't offend me.
The Driver also still rolled out normally after landing on the fairway for 20/25/30 yards.
Also, it looks like you need to change your special ball back to default ball after your round if you just intend to use it for one just round, otherwise it stays selected and will be used for your next rounds too (until your stock runs out).
Do with this information what you will - put it in the bin probably!
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Post by sid snott on Oct 22, 2022 8:39:54 GMT -5
You must wear a kilt for the above. Been there, done that! 😆 Still better looking than Scary Mary. Sorry no picture of her, the camera breaks every time it's pointed at her. |
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Post by bogeyman on Oct 22, 2022 8:52:39 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what to think about these balls - way above my pay grade. There's enough going on in this game already without having to worry about attributes on different balls. Personally I would be happy if everyone used default balls and use of other balls could be controlled somehow - if not then I will find a ball that suits my game and go with it, providing it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg! Just wanted to post this recent scorecard cos it's my best performance using Master and conditions were firm and fast, wind low to medium, so very happy with this progress. Still very much aware that 1 hole can blow you out of the water but what pleased me most was that I had a double and a treble in amongst everything else.  Happy punter atm - probably won't last  One thing I am concerned about however. My Avatar has this definite wiggle of the hips when he walks (sashays) off the green. Pretty sure he bats for the other team  |
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Post by Kie on Oct 22, 2022 8:53:28 GMT -5
Take a look a Gdog's twitter (@xgdog), he played Alt Shot last night with Respawn, Doyley and Canuck. They used the Grey Magnet CV1 ball (+10 roll stat) to max out the Green Speed to 192s. Gdog had a downhill 14 footer which he tried to lay up but ended up off the green and in the bunker. Very entertaining. Respawn was crying.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Oct 22, 2022 9:00:11 GMT -5
Yeah I don't know what to think about these balls - way above my pay grade. There's enough going on in this game already without having to worry about attributes on different balls. Personally I would be happy if everyone used default balls and use of other balls could be controlled somehow - if not then I will find a ball that suits my game and go with it, providing it doesn't cost me an arm and a leg! Just wanted to post this recent scorecard cos it's my best performance using Master and conditions were firm and fast, wind low to medium, so very happy with this progress. Still very much aware that 1 hole can blow you out of the water but what pleased me most was that I had a double and a treble in amongst everything else. Happy punter atm - probably won't last One thing I am concerned about however. My Avatar has this definite wiggle of the hips when he walks (sashays) off the green. Pretty sure he bats for the other team 🤣 Had a round with Greg the other night. He reckoned my avatar walked like he’d crapped himself 💩 |
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Post by InsanericK on Oct 22, 2022 9:01:17 GMT -5
I felt like the ball behaved naturally/realistically on the greens in terms of bouncing and rolling out.
Someone is doing is homework! I like that! That ball is deadly yeah. But you said something important here. " Ball behave naturally" , like your expecting with the combo of your clubs and your game philosophy. That's the good mindset when you're choosing the special balls you gonna play with. You just play your normal game until the ball behave like your expecting. If you play your nornal game and now have a 22% GIR and you can't make any putts over 10f, you're picking a bad one for your style/clubs shaping |
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