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Post by lessangster on Sept 29, 2020 5:01:35 GMT -5
Some musings as I prepare to play the 1st two rounds of Evangelist. My practice rounds ranged from -1 to +10; hope I get a card. I liked St Bedes...need to check if it was ported over. I like Evangelist, but some of the drop issues and O.B. next to the #14 green .... meh. Guess I got lucky on the boardwalk. Mine was playable. St. Bedes is ported |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 5:47:56 GMT -5
As much as I like Evangelist (yes, I said like), I'm not sure it is a good Q-school course. It is so prone to blow out rounds that many players will be out of their natural position based on their usual performance. For example, 5 bad holes resulted in an awful R2 that dropped me 3-4 divisions. I'm looking forward to all the Q-school sandbagging allegations once the season proper starts! My thoughts exactly. I had a 41 stroke difference in the two tourneys. Idk what was going on with me last night but I shot wayyy below my potential. At least I'll have a shot at my third TGC tours victory LOL |
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Post by thi0711 on Sept 29, 2020 6:15:10 GMT -5
As much as I like Evangelist (yes, I said like), I'm not sure it is a good Q-school course. It is so prone to blow out rounds that many players will be out of their natural position based on their usual performance. For example, 5 bad holes resulted in an awful R2 that dropped me 3-4 divisions. I'm looking forward to all the Q-school sandbagging allegations once the season proper starts! Agree with this statement. It’s not a good course for QSchool. I watched and read about some good players completely blowing up on this course. Not just blowups but glitches around drop zones, good shots feeding in to water, and more. Just look on here at how many people played really well in 1st event and terrible here. It’s definitely going to impact where people are placed. |
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Post by tdawgcincy on Sept 29, 2020 6:20:37 GMT -5
You decided to change controllers in the middle of Q-School?? 
I actually do feel your pain. I bought a new controller for the last game and it's taken me until now to be able to putt straight with it!
I think that is part of my Q-school issues. I had to switch to a new controller 3 days before Q-school because my old one was starting to drift vertically on the left stick (my swing stick) and take shots for me. Can't wait to get this controller sorted out and then get my new Xbox  |
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 29, 2020 6:33:09 GMT -5
Rubbish third round from me, +8 putting me at +10 after 7 rounds I think. Littered with bogeys and a couple of doubles after finding water, and every friggin fairway bunker in existence. Only two birdies on the first and 17th. Just can't find any tempo consistency, when I do hit greens I'm always miles from the hole as well. Oh well, I'll grind out the last round and hopefully play on less punishing courses in whatever tour I end up on.
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Post by jason755 on Sept 29, 2020 6:46:38 GMT -5
Well didn’t break 80 so +60 back to the drawing board .will next weeks qualifier for a card just be the 4 rounds from now on ?
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 29, 2020 6:49:20 GMT -5
C'mon people play better. I shouldn't be in 288th and I don't want to be. I would have zero chance on Elite(just like last season). Knock me down to Kinetic or even CC-A please. You are just that good Dale! |
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Post by mde8965 on Sept 29, 2020 6:57:38 GMT -5
So I finished my second set of four rounds last night all at one setting. And I’m happy and mad at the same time. After the first set of four I was sitting at -22 which put me in the low 200s. I was thinking that that would probably squeak me into the elite tour and I was totally fine with that.
Then I played evangelist. Based on all the comments here I was thinking I was in for a crapshoot. I didn’t practice at all on this course. So right out of the gate I hit six birdies in a row. Then I got on the par train forever. Then a couple of bogeys at a couple of birdies and I ended up with a -7 for that round.
I figured that must be a fluke. And everybody was saying that round two through four were harder so I wasn’t expecting much. So I went ahead and played the second round and I’m not entirely sure but I think it was bogey free with an eagle in there somewhere and I shot a -9. Third round I played more like me and shot a -2. And then in the final round I was completely relaxed because I figured I was all set and even if I had a bad round I was going to get a decent card. Anyway I think I shot -5 to end up -23 for that four rounds.
-45 for the Q school. That makes me happy but sad at the same time. Because I’m pretty sure that score is going to land me exactly where I did not want to be, on the bottom third of the platinum tour. For the time I spent last year struggling just to make cuts and the year before that on Rocher just try not to embarrass myself. Now it looks like more of the same. I’m just not capable of shooting the scores that Sloan and some other shoot.
Oh well, I guess I’ll see you next week. I’ll be the guy at the bottom of the platinum leaderboard. At least for the first two rounds until I miss the cut.
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Post by thi0711 on Sept 29, 2020 6:58:34 GMT -5
Sitting at -4 after 6 rounds. I don’t know what happened to me but I went -8 in round 7 and -4 in round 8. Total of -16 for Q-School
As of right now I’m slotted in CC-C but thinking those final 2 rounds may just vault me up to CC-A. really wish I would’ve played better at Whiskey Dunes.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Sept 29, 2020 7:01:22 GMT -5
As much as I like Evangelist (yes, I said like), I'm not sure it is a good Q-school course. It is so prone to blow out rounds that many players will be out of their natural position based on their usual performance. For example, 5 bad holes resulted in an awful R2 that dropped me 3-4 divisions. I'm looking forward to all the Q-school sandbagging allegations once the season proper starts! I agree with the assessment that Whiskey and Evangelist were a good ying and yang to evaluate talent. Will they put players "out of position" tour wise? Perhaps if you are looking at their performance in past TGC games, but this IS 2K21 now and this was chosen as the yardstick (much like the venues for the last QS for 2K19). Eventually folks will get the hang of the game and improve. These improving folks might get labeled as sandbaggers and IMO that is just not fair. This is a different game! For me, everything that worked in 2K19 does not in 2K21, that is why I am projected lower than where I was at the end of 2K19. Same happened between TGC2 and 2K19. It's the circle of pixel golf life (queue the Lion King song). Onward! |
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Post by lunde on Sept 29, 2020 7:07:51 GMT -5
-14 after 6 rounds, 3-4 putts inside 10 feet regularly every round.
Hole 16 the 7´th round. second shot short left in the water, took a drop on the brigde. The ball got placed under the brigde (took a max score on that hole) so thx for picking a course that are full off glitch and sh%$.
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Post by crushtastic on Sept 29, 2020 7:14:33 GMT -5
I hear people complaining that Evangelist is not a good q school course because some "good" players are not performing well on it. I don't mind it, I haven't played well, but that is not the course's fault.
Everyone has to play it, the good, the bad, and in my case, the downright ugly.
The glitches are there for everyone, if you get one, it is just bad luck or a poor shot. With the ball rolling of the green, which happened to me on the drivable par 4, it is a poor shot. A good shot would be to lay up and go for a birdie.
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Post by twofor22 on Sept 29, 2020 7:18:59 GMT -5
Played the front 9 of the last round, +2 so far, will finish it off tomorrow. Barring some kind of miracle I expect I'll finish somewhere between +10 and +20 for the 8 rounds. My target was somewhere close to even par give or take, so not particularly happy with it but there's a whole season left to keep improving and maybe move up a flight or two. I figured I'd be in a CC tour, so at least I've met expectations there. I have to get better tempo consistency, and I'd rather avoid just deliberately swinging fast all the time to get it. It probably hurts my score due to missing fairways and greens but in a way it's more fun, despite the frustration at times.
Evangelist is definitely the harder of the two courses for me, although a lot of my tee shots would have been decent on courses without bunkers all over the landing area on the fairways. I haven't learnt enough control to consistently avoid things like that yet. I can aim it where it will avoid them but the swing ruins that.
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Post by coggin66 on Sept 29, 2020 7:20:09 GMT -5
R3 - I ground away and was only 1 over after 14 holes and then back-to-back triple bogeys on 15 & 16 put me in a WTF mood. Finished with two pars to end R3 with a +7.
R4 - I went straight into it just wanting to get this out of the way! There was no point concentrating as the XB1 tempo is so bl00dy erratic. I speed golfed R4 and had a +9 to finish Evangelist at +24 to leave me +28 overall.
At the momemt I don't care where that puts me but I know it isn't representative of my usual near par Masters golf. I'll either enjoy the challenge of working my way out of the CC-Basement or the XB1 tempo will push me into the Beer league.
Edit: GIR for the 4 rounds was only 37.5%. I think I hit more bunkers than Greens in Regulation! I know what I have to improve. Unfortunately it involves getting to grips with the XB1 tempo!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2020 7:24:11 GMT -5
As much as I like Evangelist (yes, I said like), I'm not sure it is a good Q-school course. It is so prone to blow out rounds that many players will be out of their natural position based on their usual performance. For example, 5 bad holes resulted in an awful R2 that dropped me 3-4 divisions. I'm looking forward to all the Q-school sandbagging allegations once the season proper starts! I think there are some valid thoughts here and I can certainly empathize with players who had their tournaments turned upside down by glitches in the game, so perhaps a course that did not feature water on nearly 18 holes would've been a better choice. However, I wanted to offer a counterpoint to consider as well, which is where I think I fall in the argument (recognizing that as the co-designer I certainly have some bias). I approached this second event much like a US Open, not only from the difficulty of play, but also mentally (and I was incredibly nervous). I had to tell myself that there were going to be lots of bogeys out there, either from bad lies, bad breaks, or stupid choices I might make, but that the players who conquered those things would be the players moving up the leaderboard while the others spiraled downward. I would not consider myself a very good player (I only shot -10 during Whiskey Dunes week), but I was able to finish Evangelist week at -8 (and actually would've been -11 aside from my bogey, bogey, bogey finish on the final three holes, DOH). I didn't hit the OB a single time, and I only found the water once during the whole event, on the second shot of the 70th hole, due to the first slow tempo I had gotten all day. Part of playing Evangelist is strategy and choosing your spots, and more importantly, understanding where to miss. That is exactly how the real PGA Tour players will play the US Open (well, normally, let's just leave Bryson out of this). So while I think your concerns are valid and your point about golfers potentially being on the wrong tour has merit, if we remove the anecdotal examples of where the game absolutely screwed people, I think this course was actually a great pick from the standpoint of separating skill levels of players, not only pulling the analog stick (or mouse) back and pushing it forward, but the mental aspect of the game as well. Shout out to Art's point above as well, because he brings up that in 2K21 the "top" players might just be a different mix of people because it's a new game mechanic. We've seen that with every iteration of the game actually, so this is very similar. That's not to say some people won't be on the "wrong" tour based on what their potential could be, but I suspect those people will move up rapidly through promo marks or the promotion events and it will settle in. |
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