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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Oct 11, 2020 19:26:12 GMT -5
Has WGR Calculations changed? If so (or even if they didn't) - what are the factors for the tours top to bottom?
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Post by Doyley on Oct 11, 2020 22:18:16 GMT -5
Has WGR Calculations changed? If so (or even if they didn't) - what are the factors for the tours top to bottom? they haven't changed - dont' know the factors but I do know the new 5 flights have same factor as CC-G (it's pretty minuscule)
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 11, 2020 22:56:23 GMT -5
Has WGR Calculations changed? If so (or even if they didn't) - what are the factors for the tours top to bottom? I am going through now and making myself a chart. If you use 1.0000 as the base for a winner of an event, 0.70 for 2nd, etc. etc. then the factors seem to be these:
(Where you multiply the finishing position number by the below factor for each tour)
Platinum = 100 Elite = 20 Kinetic = 6.666666 (etc)
CC-A = 2 CC-B = 1.5 CC-C = 1 CC-D = 0.5 CC-E = 0.15 CC-F = 0.10 CC-G = 0.05 CC-H thru CC-L = 0.02625 (edited as I think I sussed this one out)
Edit: See if this link works if you'd like a google spreadsheet that assumes the above for finishing #1 through #100. Note that all ties assume the numerical finishing position - for example I finished in a 5 way tie for 94th this past week. All 5 of those players got points for 94th place.
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Oct 12, 2020 1:35:56 GMT -5
Has WGR Calculations changed? If so (or even if they didn't) - what are the factors for the tours top to bottom? I am going through now and making myself a chart. If you use 1.0000 as the base for a winner of an event, 0.70 for 2nd, etc. etc. then the factors seem to be these:
(Where you multiply the finishing position number by the below factor for each tour)
Platinum = 100 Elite = 20 Kinetic = 6.666666 (etc)
CC-A = 2 CC-B = 1.5 CC-C = 1 CC-D = 0.5 CC-E = 0.15 CC-F = 0.10 CC-G = 0.05 CC-H thru CC-L = 0.02625 (edited as I think I sussed this one out)
Edit: See if this link works if you'd like a google spreadsheet that assumes the above for finishing #1 through #100. Note that all ties assume the numerical finishing position - for example I finished in a 5 way tie for 94th this past week. All 5 of those players got points for 94th place. Thanks, I have the same factors on the spreadsheet I have (main factors you show are already calculated for 1st place) I was just curious as my WGR went down by .03 - I finished T36 in CC-E - I was expecting it to actually go up by .016 Perhaps it's also fall-off from last season as I am at 40+ events..?? I use the formula: ((101/SQRT(Finish position)-SQRT(Finish Position))*base factor) So for me at 36th CC-E would be ((101/SQRT(36)-SQRT(36))*.0015) = .0163 EDIT: Took a look at your spreadsheet - we've got the same results - though your calculations are more simple than mine, LOL..
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 12, 2020 1:40:48 GMT -5
I am going through now and making myself a chart. If you use 1.0000 as the base for a winner of an event, 0.70 for 2nd, etc. etc. then the factors seem to be these:
(Where you multiply the finishing position number by the below factor for each tour)
Platinum = 100 Elite = 20 Kinetic = 6.666666 (etc)
CC-A = 2 CC-B = 1.5 CC-C = 1 CC-D = 0.5 CC-E = 0.15 CC-F = 0.10 CC-G = 0.05 CC-H thru CC-L = 0.02625 (edited as I think I sussed this one out)
Edit: See if this link works if you'd like a google spreadsheet that assumes the above for finishing #1 through #100. Note that all ties assume the numerical finishing position - for example I finished in a 5 way tie for 94th this past week. All 5 of those players got points for 94th place. Thanks, I have the same factors on the spreadsheet I have (main factors you show are already calculated for 1st place) I was just curious as my WGR went down by .03 - I finished T36 in CC-E - I was expecting it to actually go up by .016 Perhaps it's also fall-off from last season as I am at 40+ events..?? I use the formula: ((101/SQRT(Finish position)-SQRT(Finish Position))*base factor) So for me at 36th CC-E would be ((101/SQRT(36)-SQRT(36))*.0015) = .0163 EDIT: Took a look at your spreadsheet - we've got the same results - though your calculations are more simple than mine, LOL.. A lot of that went over my head, but have you factored in that we had 6-8 weeks of drag in the off-season?
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Post by rob4590 on Oct 12, 2020 1:46:08 GMT -5
There's a lot of point losses from the off season, as Bob mentioned. Most easily seen right at the top of the WGR - eg Vitaly gained 28 points this week for his finish, but his total went down 262 points (so 290 loss, 28 gain)
And the formula Jeff quoted is the same one I have - from the original thread about 5 years ago when Doyley & co came up with that formula
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Post by zzfr33b1rdzz on Oct 12, 2020 1:57:57 GMT -5
Thanks, I have the same factors on the spreadsheet I have (main factors you show are already calculated for 1st place) I was just curious as my WGR went down by .03 - I finished T36 in CC-E - I was expecting it to actually go up by .016 Perhaps it's also fall-off from last season as I am at 40+ events..?? I use the formula: ((101/SQRT(Finish position)-SQRT(Finish Position))*base factor) So for me at 36th CC-E would be ((101/SQRT(36)-SQRT(36))*.0015) = .0163 EDIT: Took a look at your spreadsheet - we've got the same results - though your calculations are more simple than mine, LOL.. A lot of that went over my head, but have you factored in that we had 6-8 weeks of drag in the off-season? LOL, sorry Bob.. No, I didn't account for the break - as I don't know how the points start to drop, figured that was likely it.. Basically we use the same formula, but as I mentioned - your way is a whole lot easier - which I will likely change my sheet to match.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 3:25:44 GMT -5
Can someone please explain the promotion/demotion criteria? I finished 11th in CCA and received one promotion mark while the top 10 received two.
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Post by Blade on Oct 12, 2020 8:35:02 GMT -5
Can someone please explain the promotion/demotion criteria? I finished 11th in CCA and received one promotion mark while the top 10 received two. Top 7.5% get 2 marks, next 7.5% get 1 mark. CC-A had 128 who participated, so 9.6 (rounded to 10) would get 2 marks (including the winner). It looks like they don't use the tie breakers within scores, so if you had one less stroke, you would have been in the 2 mark group. I say that because in theory the next 10 would get 1 mark, but the next 11 got one mark in CC-A (as #s 8,9,10 and 11 all had the same score).
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Post by coggin66 on Oct 13, 2020 23:47:00 GMT -5
What does the Deadline counter on the Home page represent? It doesn't seem to mean anything in my local time.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 13, 2020 23:54:03 GMT -5
What does the Deadline counter on the Home page represent? It doesn't seem to mean anything in my local time. It should (currently) be showing the time left until the cut happens. Deadline for R1 and R2. I am assuming there will be another deadline counter after the cut that is to show when the event ends.
Should be almost exactly 24 hours from this post.
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Post by coggin66 on Oct 14, 2020 0:18:17 GMT -5
What does the Deadline counter on the Home page represent? It doesn't seem to mean anything in my local time. It should (currently) be showing the time left until the cut happens. Deadline for R1 and R2. I am assuming there will be another deadline counter after the cut that is to show when the event ends.
Should be almost exactly 24 hours from this post.
Currently showing 8 hours 42 minutes for me ... which is the time to my local Weds midnight not any of the game or site cut-off times.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Oct 14, 2020 0:20:07 GMT -5
It should (currently) be showing the time left until the cut happens. Deadline for R1 and R2. I am assuming there will be another deadline counter after the cut that is to show when the event ends.
Should be almost exactly 24 hours from this post.
Currently showing 8 hours 42 minutes for me ... which is the time to my local Weds midnight not any of the game or site cut-off times. Hmm. Might need a looksie by whichever Admin set this up.
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 14, 2020 1:00:53 GMT -5
Its possible the wrong country is set?
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Post by coggin66 on Oct 14, 2020 1:24:50 GMT -5
Its possible the wrong country is set? My TGCT profile is showing Australia and my Chrome / phone is showing correct locations too. Edit: Tried my PC and it is showing incorrectly too.
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