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Post by billybudd0623 on Mar 23, 2015 7:39:59 GMT -5
Just wanted to throw out a shot I had at Shawnee this week. Hit a shot that trickled over the green down a 2-3 ft bank. Had a 12yd shot, approximately 7 yards off the green with the pin being around 15 feet on the green , up the bank 3feet, but at the pin the green sloped heavily down away from me. I short sided myself in golf terms. My first attempt was a LW flop a couple feet past that spun back down the hill to me. My second was a chip that got to the top of the crest and rolled back to me. My third attempt (seething at this point) was another chip that was barely rolling at the hole ( which I thought was perfect ) and rolled 30-40 feet off the other side of the green. Made a 9 on this hole. I feel like I am a good short game player in this game and in real life so I understand the mechanics. I admit that I do not know how to play this shot. If I had that shot again I would not know how I would play it. Help!
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Post by NCFCRulz on Mar 23, 2015 8:09:49 GMT -5
These are the shots I fear 14-18yards off the green uphill with green running away.
I find best approach is to fully loft the LW and aim to hit around 80% with the swing
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Post by billybudd0623 on Mar 23, 2015 8:15:37 GMT -5
NCFCRulz, thanks for the reply. That is basically the first shot I tried that spun all the way back to me.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Mar 23, 2015 8:19:21 GMT -5
NCFCRulz, thanks for the reply. That is basically the first shot I tried that spun all the way back to me. Yeah always a danger if fully lofting as adds far more backspin. When I fully loft I try to hit % to take it 3-7 yards past the hole first bounce depending on the slope. |
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Post by Doyley on Mar 23, 2015 10:38:03 GMT -5
If it's going to spin back down then the only shot is a bump/run up the hill with a 9i or 8i - assuming that it's all fairway in front of you. Not many practice that shot so it's pretty challenging to pull it out of the bag once in a blue moon. Similar to your 3rd attempt. But the safest play may have been too look away from the hole for a flatter area. Rare that I would do this as I usually have to go at the pin at least once - but in the end, it would likely be a better option than taking a 9.
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Post by billybudd0623 on Mar 23, 2015 11:38:41 GMT -5
Thanks Doyley, but after a few shots it becomes a 'quest' to make the shot. Sort of like Kevin Costner in Tin Cup if you have seen that movie.
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Post by SmilingGoats on Mar 23, 2015 14:00:44 GMT -5
If the far side of the pin is sloping down away from you, the lofted lob wedge played long isn't a bad option. It will try to spin back up the hill, but it will spin far less if it is trying to go back up a hill. You have to be really perfect on judging the distance though which makes it a very high risk shot.
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Post by misternic on Mar 23, 2015 14:25:45 GMT -5
If the far side of the pin is sloping down away from you, the lofted lob wedge played long isn't a bad option. It will try to spin back up the hill, but it will spin far less if it is trying to go back up a hill. You have to be really perfect on judging the distance though which makes it a very high risk shot. Generally yes, but on Shawnee it spins uphill it is soooo fast and hard... I have four putted myself across the greens there more than once... Honestly in my practice rounds I play how can I make par from the fairway on approach. Cuz as this thread noted, double, triple, or 9 are possible. |
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Post by mnguy12000 on Mar 27, 2015 14:46:32 GMT -5
If the far side of the pin is sloping down away from you, the lofted lob wedge played long isn't a bad option. It will try to spin back up the hill, but it will spin far less if it is trying to go back up a hill. You have to be really perfect on judging the distance though which makes it a very high risk shot. Generally yes, but on Shawnee it spins uphill it is soooo fast and hard... I have four putted myself across the greens there more than once... Honestly in my practice rounds I play how can I make par from the fairway on approach. Cuz as this thread noted, double, triple, or 9 are possible. yep i faced a similar shot as Billy did. I got lucky and hit my lw to grid 3 and it bounced and spun and hit the stick, otherwise it would have came all the way back down the slope. the 9i chip is so unpredictable though which is a shame because it is my go to shot IRL. On shawnee on the 2nd par 3, I just missed to the back, rolled into the fringe. 18 in down hill, and a HUGE right to left breaker. was about 7 yard. HATE THIS SHOT. So i putted, and that damn ball took off like a rocket and rolled all the way off the green. Then I had a 13-15 yard chip up a 3 feet slope, thought YES a 9i shot that works and well it took me two tries to get it there.  |
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Post by misternic on Mar 27, 2015 20:17:54 GMT -5
The same shot is going to cost me a my trip to the Masters.  I shot an 81 with a Quad bogie on the 8th hole doing exactly what is descibed above |
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Post by Fluid druid on Apr 2, 2015 1:29:50 GMT -5
you could possibly de loft a flop to take the backspin away, but care is needed in terms of power.
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Post by mcbogga on Apr 2, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -5
Why no love for the lofted pitch?
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Post by rod81simo on Apr 2, 2015 19:04:25 GMT -5
You've just gotta give yourself a chance at an up and down for par. Getting cute with the shot is probably a no-no in this instance with the severe false front and green falling away behind the hole. So as Doyley stated look for an area around 15ft away that leaves you a chance to make the putt. Reason being a fully lofted LW flop will travel about 19yds with that elevation and spin anywhere from 3-6yds and way more if back down a slop but yeah point is to play the 100% shot and leave a chance as fluffing around results in a high number like you have been dealt....... The challenge is taking your medicine and settling on the highest possible outcome to begin with on your first try  easier said than done as we all want a tap in around the greens. |
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Post by t2theb2 on Apr 3, 2015 17:08:34 GMT -5
Risk and reward and im all about risk which bites me hard every once in a while but my shot would be the 30yrd flop half to three quarter swing as it takes most of the spin off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 17:51:21 GMT -5
Just wanted to throw out a shot I had at Shawnee this week. Hit a shot that trickled over the green down a 2-3 ft bank. Had a 12yd shot, approximately 7 yards off the green with the pin being around 15 feet on the green , up the bank 3feet, but at the pin the green sloped heavily down away from me. I short sided myself in golf terms. My first attempt was a LW flop a couple feet past that spun back down the hill to me. My second was a chip that got to the top of the crest and rolled back to me. My third attempt (seething at this point) was another chip that was barely rolling at the hole ( which I thought was perfect ) and rolled 30-40 feet off the other side of the green. Made a 9 on this hole. I feel like I am a good short game player in this game and in real life so I understand the mechanics. I admit that I do not know how to play this shot. If I had that shot again I would not know how I would play it. Help! this shot has pissed me off multiple times on many courses, some designers love this scenario as they uses it quite often when designing some of their courses. its kind of a cheap way to add difficulty, only because its kinda like exploiting the weakness of the shot types we have offered to us and how hard it is to hit certain %'s so we instead loft up more and more getting more and more spin. in reality that shot from that distance is much easier than it is in this game, and should never result in somebody getting a 9 or a 10 on a hole. I went from a top 15 finish to a bottom 15 finish thanks to 1 hole like this last week. |
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I shot an 81 with a Quad bogie on the 8th hole doing exactly what is descibed above
easier said than done as we all want a tap in around the greens.