Soooo...TGCT is going to need a policy for the DLC...

[IlludiumQ36]

Why? Because the Tropical Theme is being held hostage by the evil that is modern community-splitting DLC. You will neither be able to make Tropical courses NOR PLAY THEM without the DLC.



While I can assume the vast majority of my fellow members will indeed partake of this poison apple (myself included - hey, I love the game - shut up and take my money, HB), there will most certainly be a sizable contingent that will elect to pass, even if just in the interim.

The tropical theme used in any TGCT events will only playable for those who have paid for the DLC. The very definition of split community.

This makes me sad.

[NCFCRulz]

The answer is simple. No tropical theme will be used in TGCT. They can't alienate members by forcing them to miss events if don't purchase DLC

[jwfickett]

I can envision having a tropical event with an alternative event at another themed course.

Honestly, this game is certainly worth 45+. Nearly infinite replay value for many. An extra 10 is a small toss in the tip jar for a great game.

[NCFCRulz]

Mar 20, 2015 20:08:10 GMT -5 jwfickett said:

I can envision having a tropical event with an alternative event at another themed course.

Honestly, this game is certainly worth 45+. Nearly infinite replay value for many. An extra 10 is a small toss in the tip jar for a great game.

The thing is if you make a main pga event for 500 pts tropical and a side event for 300 normal that is not fair on those who choose not to buy the DLC.

[Deleted]

i really dont see many ppl not buying the extra stuff, if they really dont think it is worth it, they probably should just move on and play a different game.

[IlludiumQ36]

The perceived value of the DLC isn't my concern - the potential effect on the TGCT community is. I've seen too many online communities wrecked by the vile weed that is nickel-n-dime DLC. It bleeds the population.

Mar 20, 2015 20:25:52 GMT -5 @tastegw said:

i really dont see many ppl not buying the extra stuff, if they really dont think it is worth it, they probably should just move on and play a different game.

And they will

[Deleted]

but most games that do offer DLC for a price, are offering it as an advantage ie: better gear to give players an advantage over other players and such.

this type of DLC HB is offering is more of an expansion to the game, as far as game fundamentals, its not giving anyone an advantage, just extra content.

Its the paid advantages that wrecks communities from other game titles.

Guild Wars offered up outfits and such that cost money, but did not give anyone any type of advantage what so ever, and nobody complained about it, because there was no need to, it was just cosmetics, they also offered expansion titles for the game, and players had the option to buy them or not, this is not the only game that has offered an expansion for money, and it does not split those communities either, most players who really like the game, buy the expansions because its worth it, and this run on sentence is longer than then the line of ppl crying about expansions splitting the communities.

dont confuse paid advantages from DLC that wreck the balance of the game to paid content from DLC that keeps the balance of the game.

HB needs and deserves to make money off this great title, and this is a fine way to go about making more money. I see absolutely nothing wrong here with what they are doing, and anyone who does, just doesnt get it, or does not like the game enough to care and should indeed move on.

[IlludiumQ36]

No one is arguing that HB shouldn't make money. No one is arguing that this DLC is "pay to win" or creates advantage/disadvantage. No one is arguing that the expansion of the game isn't worth $10.It's purely the Tropical theme and hiding it behind the paywall. That directly affects the future of TGCT and how they do things.

Guys like you and Fickett are going to create some great courses using it - courses that CANNOT be used in TGCT tournaments unless everyone is forced to buy it. Not every one will. I'm sure there are many younger members who don't have access to just buy whatever they want online, regardless of how accessible the price may seem to you or I. This is anti-community, at least as far as this site is concerned. Honestly, if it weren't for TGCT, I would never have given it a second thought.

[Deleted]

i still dont think this will be as big a deal as you make it out to be, i think only a small % of players here would not purchase the new content.

i say run a tourny with the new theme, and lets see how many ppl complain about it, if there is enough, then ya lets discuss it, but until then, i dont see this as a big deal at this point.

[Knock25Out]

Could we possibly make a poll to initially gauge interest in the new themes? (i am going to buy it)

[misternic]

Mar 20, 2015 20:08:10 GMT -5 jwfickett said:

I can envision having a tropical event with an alternative event at another themed course.

Honestly, this game is certainly worth 45+. Nearly infinite replay value for many. An extra 10 is a small toss in the tip jar for a great game.

I dont think they are saying on the same tour.  If PGA uses a tropical theme, Euro would not that week (crossover) or similiar.  It will be interesting to me to see what designers do... take those 100 hours to make a course that could only have 70% usage?

[rod81simo]

I think that the update with all its inclusions is reason enough to get the DLC and furthermore if you are a designer you'd be definately interested. If your not a designer then I think it may be a stretch to need the DLC as IMO TGCT is better than the career mode sounds and the Themes aren't needed if you don't design and really outside of Aesthetics a theme is a theme really who cares. So there will be conjecture around the DLC but my view is that I'm happy with the $10 for DLC and at the same time I'd be happy to pay TGCT $5-$10 for there continued dedication to this operation.

[IlludiumQ36]

Mar 20, 2015 22:20:53 GMT -5 rod81simo said:

I think that the update with all its inclusions is reason enough to get the DLC and furthermore if you are a designer you'd be definately interested. If your not a designer then I think it may be a stretch to need the DLC as IMO TGCT is better than the career mode sounds and the Themes aren't needed if you don't design and really outside of Aesthetics a theme is a theme really who cares. So there will be conjecture around the DLC but my view is that I'm happy with the $10 for DLC and at the same time I'd be happy to pay TGCT $5-$10 for there continued dedication to this operation.

For the tropical theme - You no pay, you no play

[rod81simo]

Mar 20, 2015 22:23:05 GMT -5 IlludiumQ36 said:

Mar 20, 2015 22:20:53 GMT -5 rod81simo said:

I think that the update with all its inclusions is reason enough to get the DLC and furthermore if you are a designer you'd be definately interested. If your not a designer then I think it may be a stretch to need the DLC as IMO TGCT is better than the career mode sounds and the Themes aren't needed if you don't design and really outside of Aesthetics a theme is a theme really who cares. So there will be conjecture around the DLC but my view is that I'm happy with the $10 for DLC and at the same time I'd be happy to pay TGCT $5-$10 for there continued dedication to this operation.

For the tropical theme - You no pay, you no play

I realise this and surrounding that I think TGCT should not shy away from using it and I for one will definately be creating courses in this theme as being from the Gold Coast in Australia all the courses here.have palms and it's been something missing in the designer since it's inception (outside of desert). TGCT members will pay up I'm pretty sure. Like Job said it will be a total investment of $45. Name another game with as much content as we have here and it's game over as far as I'm concerned. I think TGCT should enforce the DLC and bargain a buy in rate from HB (not likely but you guys are helping to drive the games success to I feel and should be rewarded someway).

[Doyley]

I've played golf games with DLC. The themes were all purchased by the regular golfers. I don't see anyone holding out on two themes for $10 that play this game regularly.