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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 30, 2020 21:54:10 GMT -5
Had my first sub par score (-1) with Masters last night (round 1, IB, Sweetens Cove). Progress, albeit small. Onward! Way to go!! I just played a 1 under round at Conservatory and was happy.
Thanks Ron, but after round 2 I think it's Carol using kind conditions or the course is broken:
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Post by rob4590 on Aug 31, 2020 1:44:53 GMT -5
Way to go!! I just played a 1 under round at Conservatory and was happy.
Thanks Ron, but after round 2 I think it's Carol using kind conditions or the course is broken:
Sorry to be 'that person' Art - but IB @ Sweetens was pro swing difficulty, not masters......
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Post by Art Vandelay on Aug 31, 2020 20:37:59 GMT -5
Thanks Ron, but after round 2 I think it's Carol using kind conditions or the course is broken:
Sorry to be 'that person' Art - but IB @ Sweetens was pro swing difficulty, not masters......
Knew it was too good to true. But thanks Rob, truth is better than disillusionment.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 1, 2020 13:01:24 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue?
I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short.
Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this.
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Theopen
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Post by Theopen on Sept 1, 2020 13:22:51 GMT -5
I'm sorry, can't say I've seen that. For me, when I'm in my backswing, there's a white notch/bar that moves from right to left (no fill). I get to the "mark" (the white filled target percentage area) and push forward for the downswing - the bar just fills white up to where I stopped my backswing (then the whole meter just fades out).
The only time I see it turn orange (or red) is if I go too far past the target percent (but that results in too much power, not losing any).
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Post by credolg on Sept 1, 2020 14:07:14 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue? I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short. Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this. Having same issue. Started yesterday morning. Is this causing issues with your normal swings as well being slow?
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Post by YouStayClassySanDiego on Sept 1, 2020 15:04:56 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue? I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short. Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this. Sounds like the same bug that controller users are reporting. Pull back for a certain percentage on your putt, then when you start the downswing, it jumps 'down' on percentage. I haven't seen it personally, but I'm also playing mostly on TGCT settings with no power meter, so it'd be hard to tell.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 1, 2020 17:24:24 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue? I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short. Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this. Sounds like the same bug that controller users are reporting. Pull back for a certain percentage on your putt, then when you start the downswing, it jumps 'down' on percentage. I haven't seen it personally, but I'm also playing mostly on TGCT settings with no power meter, so it'd be hard to tell. This is it. I'm not getting it on any other shot that putting tho. Tempo is still good ...or at least the same pre-patch. I was trying to play without the meter on putting and was leaving a tonne of things short that just didn't feel right, so I turned it back on to see what was going on and saw this. You are right. The orange bar appears and it slides down to about 1/4 less power and the white bar comes up again to finish out the stroke. It is like it is readjusting the power to be 1/4 less than what it was when I started the downswing.
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Post by bahnzo on Sept 2, 2020 0:25:30 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue? I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short. Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this. I saw your post and jumped in to the practice green to see if I could do this. I couldn't. Can you take a video of it happening and show it here?
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Theopen
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Post by Theopen on Sept 2, 2020 7:45:39 GMT -5
- I don't know how many changes could have been in a 21MB patch (that's a whole lot smaller than the PS4 update).
- 2k/HB don't seem to have any desire to even let us know if they've made changes or not ... so, it's just a guessing game
- I have no idea what happened, but this morning I was hitting perfect tempo shots (on masters) quite often (probably 20% of the time, up from 1% in all my previous testing)
- I had my first under par round (-4) with masters difficulty in the current TGCT Elite exhibition match ... went -8 through all four rounds
- Tempo was actually less of a concern through four rounds than having literally a dozen putts that missed by a half an inch.
- I only had a handful of very fast/slow (and actually hardly any of my shots went slow this time - most were fast).
- It certainly doesn't make this learning process any easier (or more enjoyable) with TGCT still giving us absurd conditions (you'd think now that the game is harder, we could get back to playing realistic courses with realistic conditions instead of these courses/conditions that were jacked up in difficulty to keep scores lower in TGC2019)
- The only thing I can think of that may have made a difference, is that last night I lowered my graphics settings (it's been on Medium quality, but I went in to the Advanced graphics options and turned almost every down to low - water quality, grass quality, etc.)
- I also tried really hard not to make a full swing (most were between 92% and 100%); however, several of my "perfect" shots did come from 101% power shots.
- I'm finding that even hitting a drive at 95% power still gives close to the same distance as a 100% swing (like a mere two or three yards difference)
So, I'm hoping this morning wasn't just a fluke ... I'd only been awake about an hour before I played my rounds, so we'll see what changes later today when I have more energy (will likely result in all the fasts coming back). For the first time in 80 hours of game play, I'm feeling a slight bit more optimistic about the game (when it comes to participating on this site, that is)!
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Theopen
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Post by Theopen on Sept 2, 2020 8:08:47 GMT -5
Also, in case it matters/helps ...
Mouse: Logitech MX518 (latest) DPI: 1050 (no separate axis, no switching - I use the same for all shots) In-game: 50 Windows pointer options: 5/11 (enhanced precision turned off)
The cursor on my backswing moves roughly 1/3rd of the height of my screen ... downswing/follow-through is around 2/3rds back up.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Sept 2, 2020 9:21:35 GMT -5
Any mouse users also having this issue? I've still been practising with the meter on and suddenly I'm having putts that are saying I'm decelerating the follow through or something. The meter turns white as it builds up to 100% going right to left as I pull back. I start my down swing at the appropriant spot and the meter now starts going white from right to left. About 1/2 through this down swing, the meter suddenly turns orange for a bit of the way and then turns white again to end the stroke. The result...I lose about 1/4 of my power and come up short. Does it happen every time? No. About 20-25% of the time and I have no idea why. At first I thought I was pausing or not doing a smooth stroke but it has happened even though I have the same swing going back as I do going forward. This just started on patch day and wasn't happening before. I just 7 putted the first green in the exhibition due to this. Sounds like the same bug that controller users are reporting. Pull back for a certain percentage on your putt, then when you start the downswing, it jumps 'down' on percentage. I haven't seen it personally, but I'm also playing mostly on TGCT settings with no power meter, so it'd be hard to tell. DS4 user here: Post-patch, I've had a significant increase in putts with "perfect power" (i.e., the shot feedback power %, not the power bar since I have that turned off, shows a white background meaning it was perfect power for the aim marker) coming up well short. Sure, can definitely happen if you pull the aim marker closer to you than default, and has definitely happened a time or two before the patch with default marker distance just because default wasn't perfect (which is expected from time to time), but I had a round yesterday with at least 5 or 6 putts that come up multiple feet short despite "perfect power." I'm going to turn the power bar on later on the practice green to try and see if this is what's happening - hit "perfect power" but then the meter jumps down to a lower % for some reason - but I have a sneaking suspicion that it's exactly what I'm encountering after this latest fantastic "patch" from HB.
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 2, 2020 13:45:57 GMT -5
Okay I got a video. Basically, I have been instinctively letting the power bar go a little further due to this bug, so that is why this particular putt is higher than 100%.
Anyway you will see I take the putt back and when i start my downswing, the meter starts going right, but the bar is clear until the line finally picked up almost 1/2 through the downswing. The bar turns orange and what is left is the power that I have for this putt. Obviously well short of intended. It is like the game isn't recognizing that i've started pushing forward on my putt until i'm 1/2 through my downswing.
So frustrating:
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Theopen
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Post by Theopen on Sept 2, 2020 17:35:13 GMT -5
Well, I've had the same issue that B.Smooth13 mentioned ... it, very occasionally , seems to snap backward to 1-2% just before the white area on the bar, which usually results in an abysmally short shot (and, of course, if you miss the mark and go over by 1-2%, somehow in HB math, that means +50 ft.) From looking at the video, I see a few things. 1) Your mouse cursor doesn't travel very far on screen (however, it's not that much shorter than mine). So, either you were super extra careful with your swing, or it's a result of whatever DPI you're running. 2) The very start of the downswing was pretty slow - then your cursor sped up a bit. If I'm being overly cautious with a swing and moving slow and short (where my mouse only travels a half an inch or something), sometimes the game registers that as a "cancelled" shot - which resets the character animation back to "at the ready". It kinda looks like your's is then re-registering it is as a putt halfway through your downswing. I've had shots that have produced the same results - with the power bar off. Most of my putting is based on where the putter is in relation to my player's feet on screen. The problem with that, is that the camera angle doesn't adjust with your lie. So if you're on an incline, the camera is facing more "overhead", which isn't the same perspective as being on flat ground. It can throw off your judgement enough to be a few % short of normal ... and, again, HB math and all that
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Post by Brighttail on Sept 2, 2020 18:07:37 GMT -5
Well, I've had the same issue that B.Smooth13 mentioned ... it, very occasionally , seems to snap backward to 1-2% just before the white area on the bar, which usually results in an abysmally short shot (and, of course, if you miss the mark and go over by 1-2%, somehow in HB math, that means +50 ft.) From looking at the video, I see a few things. 1) Your mouse cursor doesn't travel very far on screen (however, it's not that much shorter than mine). So, either you were super extra careful with your swing, or it's a result of whatever DPI you're running. 2) The very start of the downswing was pretty slow - then your cursor sped up a bit. If I'm being overly cautious with a swing and moving slow and short (where my mouse only travels a half an inch or something), sometimes the game registers that as a "cancelled" shot - which resets the character animation back to "at the ready". It kinda looks like your's is then re-registering it is as a putt halfway through your downswing. I've had shots that have produced the same results - with the power bar off. Most of my putting is based on where the putter is in relation to my player's feet on screen. The problem with that, is that the camera angle doesn't adjust with your lie. So if you're on an incline, the camera is facing more "overhead", which isn't the same perspective as being on flat ground. It can throw off your judgement enough to be a few % short of normal ... and, again, HB math and all that DPI running about 1300 right now. I do pull back slow on my putts, so having it seem as a 'cancelled' shot would make sense, except that I never released the mouse button. So unless they changed the putting for the mouse recently to where you have to be continually pulling back (which is possible), I'm not sure a reason. Before I could pull back slowly and take a shorter back swing with a faster downswing. Works well for me, especially with longer putts.
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