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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Aug 10, 2020 0:26:40 GMT -5
I currently have a video uploading that I recorded at the very end of the preview period. I had noticed quite a bit of discussion around the distance control meter and if having it on is a massive advantage and it will be "way too easy" having it on. So I decided to do a little test. (the video should be available on my Youtube soon, but I'll share some of my results with you.
Scenario: 2 Rounds at TPC Sawgrass. Identical conditions/pins/tees. One round on Master, One round on Legend. I recalibrated my swing before each round.
Round 1: F9 Master with Meter on. B9 Master with Meter off
Round 2: F9 Legend with Meter off B9 Legend with Meter on.
My results? Well, all over the place.
Master with Meter on
2/21 Perfect Tempos 5/9 GIR 3/7 FIR 13 Putts Score: E
Master with Meter off 2/24 Perfect Tempos 3/9 GIR 0/7 FIR 17 Putts Score: +8 (I did take a short break before this nine holes here and dunked quite a few in the water, so this score is slightly inflated.
Legend with Meter off 0/21 Perfect Tempos 6/9 GIR 2/7 FIR 17 Putts Score +1
Legend with Meter on 1/23 Perfect Tempos 4/9 GIR 1/7 FIR 16 Putts Score +6
So a few weird things obviously, as I played slightly better on Legend, and played much better on Legend without the meter. That being said, 9 holes on each difficulty is nowhere near enough data. Right now, I feel the meter is way too easy around the greens and putting, but with it off, it becomes significantly difficult and putting is very twitchy. I didn't really notice much of a difference off vs. on for full shots in terms of results and how I enjoyed it. What I can confirm is that this game is NOT easy on the higher difficulties. My -1 on legend difficulty was a really good game from me and I never came close to hitting it after. I'll have my popcorn ready when PS4 players that are used to perfect tempo all the time will struggle to get it a few times per round (hopefully PS4 swing isn't easier this time around.) I hit 5 perfect tempos in 36 holes!
My ideal setup at the moment would be:
Master swing difficulty Distance control meter for putting only Putting distance control meter doesn't display percentage you need to hit, but gives you a marker you can move on the meter to set your own strength (this is currently not a feature in the game).
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Post by BillySastard976 on Aug 10, 2020 2:52:09 GMT -5
Very interesting Crazycanuck1985. It would appear that swing calibration doesn't make a great deal of difference? I realize it is still early days, too early to say definitely how much good it does, but at this moment it has not helped you get consistent good tempo.
I watched jimgem putting well without the meter, not sure if he also had rumble off but I think he did.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 3:29:33 GMT -5
Nice data Crazycanuck1985. I love a good data crunch. But like you said, not enough data to get any proper results. I’m glad it’s harder to hit tempo and swing planes. I hope it’s not hit or bust though. It should be harder to hit but also more forgiving when you do. No boomerang misses if you just miss, only slight misses. This seemed sort of the case from the videos I saw, do you concur?
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Post by bubbsboy100. on Aug 10, 2020 3:36:45 GMT -5
Be interesting with meter off for putting.
I'm not a good player but used the count method of say 60 ft put count six on back swing ( give or take on speeds but you know what I mean ) and was there or there abouts .
Maybe different this game so looking forward to practice.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Aug 10, 2020 3:51:08 GMT -5
Nice data Crazycanuck1985 . I love a good data crunch. But like you said, not enough data to get any proper results. I’m glad it’s harder to hit tempo and swing planes. I hope it’s not hit or bust though. It should be harder to hit but also more forgiving when you do. No boomerang misses if you just miss, only slight misses. This seemed sort of the case from the videos I saw, do you concur? Re the boomerang misses not happening with a slight loss of tempo, I agree, from the footage I've seen the penalties don't seem unjust but it should also depend on the forgiveness level of different clubs.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 10, 2020 5:15:54 GMT -5
I have a feeling there is going to be a very very beautiful and long thread about the swing meter upon release.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 10, 2020 5:19:20 GMT -5
I have a feeling there is going to be a very very beautiful and long thread about the swing meter upon release. As well as lots of bi***ing about random tempo if it's as tough as the streams made out.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 10, 2020 5:23:30 GMT -5
Nice data Crazycanuck1985 . I love a good data crunch. But like you said, not enough data to get any proper results. I’m glad it’s harder to hit tempo and swing planes. I hope it’s not hit or bust though. It should be harder to hit but also more forgiving when you do. No boomerang misses if you just miss, only slight misses. This seemed sort of the case from the videos I saw, do you concur? Re the boomerang misses not happening with a slight loss of tempo, I agree, from the footage I've seen the penalties don't seem unjust but it should also depend on the forgiveness level of different clubs. There seemed to be a zone either side of "perfect" on the higher difficulty levels that produced a baby push/pull rather than a big miss.
Hopefully it will bring a bit of strategy into play, playing for the centre of greens when there's trouble on whichever side you tend to hit it. Seemingly hitting perfect on every swing is bloody tough. It might become a game of managing your misses - a bit like Golf
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Post by Oscar C on Aug 10, 2020 5:34:42 GMT -5
I’ve not had time to watch many videos in depth but watched the first hour of seamounts 13 hour marathon.
Can someone explain the metre to me? What does it help with.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Aug 10, 2020 5:54:52 GMT -5
I’ve not had time to watch many videos in depth but watched the first hour of seamounts 13 hour marathon. Can someone explain the metre to me? What does it help with. It's a power meter and can give power needed as a percentage, with an indicator on the meter bar showing where the downswing should begin to attain the correct percentage. I hope the meter is not used for putting on the tours, including the rumble. I think we can lose the meter for all shots in fact, but don't see how we can then do without the rumble as feedback telling us where 100% is reached for drives and approaches. I don't want to be watching a meter when playing a shot and not the golfer. Without the rumble I think it would be difficult to know where 100% is. I say all this never having played a single shot, like most of us, so I'm probably missing something.
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Post by lessangster on Aug 10, 2020 6:00:14 GMT -5
Watching all the video’s it doesn’t look like your swing goes any further on a 102% shot than it does for a 100% it just looked to be the length of the pause at the top that gave you over swing.
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Post by Oscar C on Aug 10, 2020 6:02:47 GMT -5
Thanks peter for the reply.
So as I understand it... for example a wedge can go 120 yds. If I hit it at 90% of the meter I can get it at 108yds?
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Post by yeltzman on Aug 10, 2020 6:09:48 GMT -5
Watching all the video’s it doesn’t look like your swing goes any further on a 102% shot than it does for a 100% it just looked to be the length of the pause at the top that gave you over swing. Jim on the 4th hole got 104% says something about holding the swing at the top Seems to help Hole 4 in the video.
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Post by cliffs on Aug 10, 2020 6:11:40 GMT -5
I’ve not had time to watch many videos in depth but watched the first hour of seamounts 13 hour marathon. Can someone explain the metre to me? What does it help with. It's a power meter and can give power needed as a percentage, with an indicator on the meter bar showing where the downswing should begin to attain the correct percentage. I hope the meter is not used for putting on the tours, including the rumble. I think we can lose the meter for all shots in fact, but don't see how we can then do without the rumble as feedback telling us where 100% is reached for drives and approaches. I don't want to be watching a meter when playing a shot and not the golfer. Without the rumble I think it would be difficult to know where 100% is. I say all this never having played a single shot, like most of us, so I'm probably missing something. No rumble for mouse and KB players.
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Post by BillySastard976 on Aug 10, 2020 6:25:55 GMT -5
Thanks peter for the reply. So as I understand it... for example a wedge can go 120 yds. If I hit it at 90% of the meter I can get it at 108yds? Yes. There are still other variables though, so landing on a slope would change things, etc.
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