laladiesman
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 267
TGCT Name: David Paul
Tour: Platinum
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Post by laladiesman on Apr 28, 2020 13:32:00 GMT -5
Great thread. Hard to imagine how the Old Course, Augusta, and places like Cypress end up on here. Worst holes in golf remember.
I wish I could show you Guilford Golf and Country Club in Surrey, BC. You have a 25% of hitting power lines that come into play on multiple holes. The layout is mystifying. Stupid short holes crammed together making you fear your life with others spread out 600 yards long x 80 wide.
As for something famous I will go with a hole I hate (not the entire hole) on one of my fav courses. The pond(hardly) in front of the18th green at Torrey. I listen to commentary about how iconic it is. 🤢 Looks out of place on a course I think is pretty perfect. Rae’s Creek is iconic not that stupid ditch. Looks like someone just landscape lowered a brush in TGC terms.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 3, 2020 11:36:30 GMT -5
I like this course, but see if you can't spot the 18 thing's about it I don't like.
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Post by b101 on May 3, 2020 11:37:38 GMT -5
Every green an island?
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Post by jwtexan on May 3, 2020 13:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by lessthanbread on May 3, 2020 18:38:13 GMT -5
I like this course, but see if you can't spot the 18 thing's about it I don't like.  I think I found 3: How the eff do you get from 15 to 16? Multiple holes at the edge of the plot No halfway house
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 3, 2020 19:11:06 GMT -5
I like this course, but see if you can't spot the 18 thing's about it I don't like.  I think I found 3: How the eff do you get from 15 to 16? Multiple holes at the edge of the plot No halfway house 15 to 16 is actually a smooth trek. It's a cool ride because it's gorgeous there. I'll give you a hint. It's the same problem but on all 18 holes.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 3, 2020 19:12:51 GMT -5
I think I found 3: How the eff do you get from 15 to 16? Multiple holes at the edge of the plot No halfway house 15 to 16 is actually a smooth trek. It's a cool ride because it's gorgeous there. I'll give you a hint. It's the same problem but on all 18 holes. And it rhymes with "betached breens"
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Post by xvshitanvx on May 3, 2020 21:42:34 GMT -5
For a top 10 course in Australia, the 3rd on St Andrews Beach Course on Melbourne's sandbelt is straight up ridiculous. 450yd dog leg right par 4. Safe drive is down the left side, particularly where missing a fairway means losing a golf ball to thick rough. Recommended line is tight down the right side but miss right and you may as well reload. If you do play the safe drive you're pretty much cut off with a mid to long iron in hand as it's a chute entry with the left side of the green protected by a mound AND a tree which you have little chance of clearing with said longer iron. It played dead into the wind when I visited. No chance.
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Post by tpetro on May 3, 2020 22:27:06 GMT -5
For a top 10 course in Australia, the 3rd on St Andrews Beach Course on Melbourne's sandbelt is straight up ridiculous. 450yd dog leg right par 4. Safe drive is down the left side, particularly where missing a fairway means losing a golf ball to thick rough. Recommended line is tight down the right side but miss right and you may as well reload. If you do play the safe drive you're pretty much cut off with a mid to long iron in hand as it's a chute entry with the left side of the green protected by a mound AND a tree which you have little chance of clearing with said longer iron. It played dead into the wind when I visited. No chance. Judging by your description and knowing Tom Doak built it, I would wholly disagree. But that's just me Honestly, you shouldn't be complaining that the preferred line is well-protected. That means the hole design is intelligent. Plus, if you bail out off the tee you should be punished, not rewarded. You've basically described a solid golf hole here buddy. Photo looks sweet too.
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Post by b101 on May 4, 2020 2:19:57 GMT -5
I'm with Ariel here. I've had a long par four hole at my home course play driver, 3 wood, 9 iron into the teeth and as little as driver, sand wedge downwind. It's a great hole. Hard to tell much without seeing the overhead of that hole but it looks like one I'd love to play.
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 4, 2020 6:22:15 GMT -5
Not to pile on but the description of the hole from the website sounds brilliant. And the mound isn't there by the green to guard it, but to aid the golfer:
"Shorter hitters should play left of centre from the tee to open up the view of the green here. Longer hitters can create an easier approach by biting off some of the dogleg to the right edge – pull off a good drive here and you’ll be rewarded with a better angle for the approach and a wedge in hand. Bite-off too much though and you may get caught in the dunes with little hope of recovery. Whatever line you take, the approach shot on the 3rd is one of the best on the property, with a narrow chute framed by native teatree and fescue grasses opening up to a semi-punchbowl green site with generous run-off areas. Anything slightly left of the green here will run down onto a large, undulating putting surface and is the best place to miss."
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Post by 15eicheltower9 on May 4, 2020 10:47:08 GMT -5
Every approach is like playing darts. On a windy day it is frustrating.
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Post by lessthanbread on May 4, 2020 12:28:20 GMT -5
For a top 10 course in Australia, the 3rd on St Andrews Beach Course on Melbourne's sandbelt is straight up ridiculous. 450yd dog leg right par 4. Safe drive is down the left side, particularly where missing a fairway means losing a golf ball to thick rough. Recommended line is tight down the right side but miss right and you may as well reload. If you do play the safe drive you're pretty much cut off with a mid to long iron in hand as it's a chute entry with the left side of the green protected by a mound AND a tree which you have little chance of clearing with said longer iron. It played dead into the wind when I visited. No chance. Sounds like a tough hole but looks absolutely stunning. I have been experimenting with a chute entry par 5 where you need to hit the tee shot to the correct angle to have a go at the green in under regulation.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 18:19:59 GMT -5
I'm with Ariel here. I've had a long par four hole at my home course play driver, 3 wood, 9 iron into the teeth and as little as driver, sand wedge downwind. It's a great hole. Hard to tell much without seeing the overhead of that hole but it looks like one I'd love to play. What did I say, when?
And we basically all agree that hole looks awesome. Just a really rough wind direction on that day but...if you can make it there in regulation by playing to the right and choose not to, that's on the player and not the designer. If there were no advantage it would never be worth the risk.
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Post by ryanmcconnell on May 4, 2020 19:08:20 GMT -5
Every approach is like playing darts. On a windy day it is frustrating. I have played BTC quite a bit. Place stinks. I think they had visions for the mounds like on 18 everywhere but they ran out of money and had to open up early. Place could’ve been special. I moved away before they finished their new club house. Did they ever finish it?
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