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Post by titaneddie on Jul 7, 2020 11:36:34 GMT -5
Oh, and also my wife really wants to go to Churchill some day. Well hunters and fisherman are about the extent of our tourism biz. My step sister has some sort of crazy degree (in environmental science I think) so spent lots of time in Churchill studying polar bears. She loved it up there. Might not want to go in January though....
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 7, 2020 12:45:38 GMT -5
Saying "we've done it to death" isn't a point. Yes, I know we've done it death, I think we've established we don't agree on it by this point.
I don't agree with the interpretation that "half" the excess deaths had nothing to do with covid, either directly or indirectly. Literally all the death categories that are massively up are ones with covid risk categories. But it's all just a massive coincidence, obviously.
Also just blithely saying that the rest are indirectly linked to covid won't cut it. You were warned about that, you said it wouldn't be a problem.
What I will agree with is that America has some fairly unique challenges with covid; its size and it's federal laws.
You know who else is a massive country with federal laws? Germany. No, you can't make a exact comparison, but it's a close one.
Germany were "fear mongers" and "pessimists," like me. Seems to have worked ok for them.
Making exact comparisons is never going to be accurate but, I will repeat, countries that were cautious and fearful acted early have done the best and countries that played it down have done the worst. It's undeniable.
I'm not calling for "complete lockdowns," haven't done for ages. If you're saying that was never the solution, you have been demonstrably proven wrong, many times over.
It is serious. Saying it's not is ostrich stuff.
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Post by titaneddie on Jul 7, 2020 13:43:20 GMT -5
Seems a front runner in the vaccine race has appeared. www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-07/novavax-covid-vaccine-gets-1-6-billion-in-u-s-warp-speed-fundsSo couldn't help myself and had to check them out! Nice thing is they post all the following info right on their websites so it's easy to connect the first dots. A key "collaborator" (novavax website words) is a company called CEPI. Anybody want first guess on who was involved in founding this company? Of course it was the gates foundation, but the other interesting name on there was a company called The Wellness Trust. Wellness Trust has an investment budget of 26 billion!! Of that they donate 8 billion. Also of note their board chair spent a 30 year career as part of MI5. I don't know, it kind of sounds like incredibly rich people layering themselves behind shell companies to stay out of the private eye? Why would the US government chip in another 1.6 billion when it seems they have access to massive amounts of funding? Maybe I ask too many questions lol...
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 7, 2020 13:58:49 GMT -5
Gilead is now producing the drug Remdesivir as a COVID-19 treatment. They've priced the drug most expensively in the USA, even though the US Government has subsidized its research with at least $70,000,000.00.
Why?
Because the price of the drug is not based on research costs or production costs. The price is based on the amount of money that hospitals, insurers and patients would save by taking the drug. In other words, if the cost of healthcare was increased arbitrarily, Gilead is arguing that an increase in the price of Remdesivir would be justified. That gives the pharmaceutical industry incentive to increase the cost of other treatments to create space for the price of Remdesivir to be increased.
One full course of treatment with Remdesivir will cost $3,120.00. That's 30% more than the price Gilead set in other industrialized nations.
For unindustrialized nations, Gilead is setting the price of a generic version as low as $59.
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Post by ErixonStone on Jul 7, 2020 14:00:31 GMT -5
Why would the US government chip in another 1.6 billion when it seems they have access to massive amounts of funding? Political contributions. See: Citizens United.
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Post by catcherman22 on Jul 7, 2020 14:25:46 GMT -5
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Post by titaneddie on Jul 7, 2020 14:26:32 GMT -5
Gilead Q1'20
5.5b in sales. 1.4b in operating cash flow.
Im not very educated in financial markets to make out much more than that but it does seem virus'/vaccines are good business.
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Post by titaneddie on Jul 7, 2020 14:30:09 GMT -5
There's a twitter comment section that's going to be crazy.
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Post by cliffs on Jul 8, 2020 6:48:13 GMT -5
AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas surpassed 10,000 new coronavirus cases in a single day Tuesday for the first time, crossing a sobering milestone rarely seen since the pandemic first hit the U.S. in March.
The record high of 10,028 new cases in Texas served as another alarming new measure of the swift resurgence of COVID-19 nationwide and the failures of the country’s response. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas aggressively began one of America’s fastest reopenings in May but has begun reversing course in recent weeks, ordering bars closed and mandating face coverings.
New York and Florida are the only other states to record more than 10,000 new cases in a single day. New York hit that grim total back in April, when New York City hospitals were overwhelmed and hundreds of people were dying every day. Florida topped 10,000 confirmed cases last week.
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 8, 2020 7:29:44 GMT -5
I thought fauci's comments yesterday were really restrained and on point, including the optimism. Kind of flew in the face of that ridiculous acrostic from a couple of pages ago.
Must be pretty hard to have to deliver the bad news, make recommendations that are ignored and then later proved right (guidelines for reopening ignored, then places had to shut down again,) have personal attacks slung at you and then keep coming back to work.
Now, if there's someone who DOES fulfil those words, I think you all know who I'd nominate. Arrogant and inept?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2020 8:58:20 GMT -5
V.C.T.R.Y.L.N.S.P.R.T.S. ?
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Post by titaneddie on Jul 8, 2020 9:03:14 GMT -5
Must be pretty hard to have to deliver the bad news, make recommendations that are ignored and then later proved right have personal attacks slung at you and then keep coming back to work. The former PGA schedulers around here can probably feel this part!
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 8, 2020 9:18:05 GMT -5
V.C.T.R.Y.L.N.S.P.R.T.S. ? Ooh, you attention seeker, you Vivacious Creative Troublemaker Rambunctious Youthful Lugubrious Noble Sanguine Playful (God, another 'R' ok, hang on, er...) Radiant (Oh god, and another 'T' now, this is getting boring now...) Tenacious (🙄) Scintillating Aaaaand...breathe!
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Post by LKeet6 on Jul 8, 2020 9:18:52 GMT -5
Must be pretty hard to have to deliver the bad news, make recommendations that are ignored and then later proved right have personal attacks slung at you and then keep coming back to work. The former PGA schedulers around here can probably feel this part! Haha! True dat 👍
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Post by boffo on Jul 8, 2020 15:48:49 GMT -5
V.C.T.R.Y.L.N.S.P.R.T.S. ? I'd like to buy a vowel Pat?
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