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Post by nick80 on Feb 28, 2020 11:50:08 GMT -5
For rules to be applied they must be clearly explained.
Until now we knew that the API was used to prevent flick. ( PGA leaderboard shows limited efficiency).
We know that we must not shot too straight even without flicking or we will be punished. ok with that.
Now here comes the pull shots ban. We are talking about controlling an intention.
I already gave my opinion on it, but ok let'go for.
So I advise you to create a detailed topic with clear explanations of graphics and visual examples of swing lines. We need to know what is accepted and what is not accepted ? what kind of shots are controlled ? Because adapting my (our) swing I (we) can do it but I (we) need certainties and to not become pull shooters.
Finally, could you watch this short video and tell me if this kind of repetitive shots will pass the api ?
Or may i have to hit all over the place ?
Simple. Get the tip in the blue channel. If you do that most of the time, you’ll be fine. If you’re able to consistently swing miles right/left, you should be able to consistently swing in the center as the tutorials instruct. If you can’t consistently swing in the center, then practice more. If you practice more and are still fed up with the inconsistency, pat yourself on the back because you’re now playing the game. LMFAO Man that's exactly what i do and this is my problem. i try to hit less straight but i need to know where is the limit. that's the object of my question But thanks for the advice
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Feb 28, 2020 11:51:41 GMT -5
I agree with the others that something has to be done. I don't think the worry of a few players who happen to get promoted to PGA that are exhibiting this swing should trump not acting at all. Failing to act will de-legitimize the tour even more and impact its long-term sustainability. We're seeing people turn in their cards (and I'm guessing any future donations). I would say many of us have seized donations because little has been done to combat the abuse in TGC2019. When the so-called "number one player in the World" cannot participate anymore, that says enough about the current state of things. Now we have this? Many of us had suspected things with the swing for a while - big props to Z3NZ for really bringing this to the community's attention. I'll happily pledge a donation if we take a stand on this issue. I don't like the implications I am reading into here. I have had a long standing monthly donation that went on without fail through my own swing issues and debates on this very forum. I never used my perceived position or donations to threaten or coerce any position Admin would take. This site takes a game/franchise that would basically be dead without it and turns it into something good for many, many people. Could it be improved? Of course it can. Admin has been proactive in this very thread and the other thread that is basically a how to of how to cheese. Please do not use money as leverage point. The back and forth here and in the other thread do much more to come to conclusions and flesh out thought processes than threatening a site that needs donations just to "keep the lights on". Honestly, I don't even know if this site ever covers the costs it takes to run outside of bursts after a couple of asks for just that.. to cover costs.
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Post by lessangster on Feb 28, 2020 11:54:41 GMT -5
Simple. Get the tip in the blue channel. If you do that most of the time, you’ll be fine. If you’re able to consistently swing miles right/left, you should be able to consistently swing in the center as the tutorials instruct. If you can’t consistently swing in the center, then practice more. If you practice more and are still fed up with the inconsistency, pat yourself on the back because you’re now playing the game. LMFAO Man that's exactly what i do and this is my problem. i try to hit less straight but i need to know where is the limit. that's the object of my question But thanks for the advice
Don’t see anything wrong with those shots your not arrow straight down the blue line and your obviously not swinging at 45 deg. to the blue line what you worried about.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 28, 2020 11:54:46 GMT -5
It's funny you say that, Z3nz played his push on xbox long before switching to PC and his results are almost night and day with the same swing. Xboxers just have it way worse. Would switching to pro clubs really help with the tempo issues? The switch wouldn't bother me=P Not really you can still get a few bad tempo shots with pro clubs just today I had two very slow swings out of nowhere, one after the other and they didn’t feel that bad. Look at my stats in this weeks competition in CC-B I’m not hitting 100% FIR or GIR so pro clubs aren’t automatic. We should all play beginner clubs end of problem 😜 There was a big poll on this. People chose masters... It’s very unfortunate, the Xbox tempo thing, but there’s only certain things that are able to be collectively affected, outside of dev involvement. Pro tours won’t be gong away from masters :/
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Feb 28, 2020 11:59:18 GMT -5
Not really you can still get a few bad tempo shots with pro clubs just today I had two very slow swings out of nowhere, one after the other and they didn’t feel that bad. Look at my stats in this weeks competition in CC-B I’m not hitting 100% FIR or GIR so pro clubs aren’t automatic. We should all play beginner clubs end of problem 😜 There was a big poll on this. People chose masters... It’s very unfortunate, the Xbox tempo thing, but there’s only certain things that are able to be collectively affected, outside of dev involvement. Pro tours won’t be gong away from masters :/ Being "that guy" here... The survey asked to "force Pro Clubs across all tours" and the yes was 50.7% so no, people didn't actually choose Masters. It was basically a split down the middle.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 28, 2020 11:59:19 GMT -5
Simple. Get the tip in the blue channel. If you do that most of the time, you’ll be fine. If you’re able to consistently swing miles right/left, you should be able to consistently swing in the center as the tutorials instruct. If you can’t consistently swing in the center, then practice more. If you practice more and are still fed up with the inconsistency, pat yourself on the back because you’re now playing the game. LMFAO Man that's exactly what i do and this is my problem. i try to hit less straight but i need to know where is the limit. that's the object of my question But thanks for the advice
Again, this is probably totally the wrong place for personal swing advice etc. But... We’re you pulled for being to straight on Xbox? Did you use the same pads on Xbox? Do they produce the same lines on Xbox? Answering some of the above might help you to find the cause - stop focusing on the effect. If all things are equal, it’s a mystery. If there are some differences, then start with the next point in the fault finding logic.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 28, 2020 12:01:37 GMT -5
There was a big poll on this. People chose masters... It’s very unfortunate, the Xbox tempo thing, but there’s only certain things that are able to be collectively affected, outside of dev involvement. Pro tours won’t be gong away from masters :/ Being "that guy" here... The survey asked to "force Pro Clubs across all tours" and the yes was 50.7% so no, people didn't actually choose Masters. It was basically a split down the middle. Sorry Bob... wasn’t aware of the numbers to the point. I suppose I’ll rephrase that then and say : We had a poll, were still on Masters. Was there a masters majority on PGA? Can’t remember, obviously 😂
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Post by CuseHokie on Feb 28, 2020 12:01:56 GMT -5
I agree with the others that something has to be done. I don't think the worry of a few players who happen to get promoted to PGA that are exhibiting this swing should trump not acting at all. Failing to act will de-legitimize the tour even more and impact its long-term sustainability. We're seeing people turn in their cards (and I'm guessing any future donations). I would say many of us have seized donations because little has been done to combat the abuse in TGC2019. When the so-called "number one player in the World" cannot participate anymore, that says enough about the current state of things. Now we have this? Many of us had suspected things with the swing for a while - big props to Z3NZ for really bringing this to the community's attention. I'll happily pledge a donation if we take a stand on this issue. I don't like the implications I am reading into here. I have had a long standing monthly donation that went on without fail through my own swing issues and debates on this very forum. I never used my perceived position or donations to threaten or coerce any position Admin would take. This site takes a game/franchise that would basically be dead without it and turns it into something good for many, many people. Could it be improved? Of course it can. Admin has been proactive in this very thread and the other thread that is basically a how to of how to cheese. Please do not use money as leverage point. The back and forth here and in the other thread do much more to come to conclusions and flesh out thought processes than threatening a site that needs donations just to "keep the lights on". Honestly, I don't even know if this site ever covers the costs it takes to run outside of bursts after a couple of asks for just that.. to cover costs. Bob?, Just voicing my opinion. I suppose we can agree to disagree. I will leave it at that because I don’t want to follow a third alias.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 28, 2020 12:04:11 GMT -5
It's funny you say that, Z3nz played his push on xbox long before switching to PC and his results are almost night and day with the same swing. Xboxers just have it way worse. Would switching to pro clubs really help with the tempo issues? The switch wouldn't bother me=P Not really you can still get a few bad tempo shots with pro clubs just today I had two very slow swings out of nowhere, one after the other and they didn’t feel that bad. Look at my stats in this weeks competition in CC-B I’m not hitting 100% FIR or GIR so pro clubs aren’t automatic. We should all play beginner clubs end of problem 😜 🙄
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Post by nick80 on Feb 28, 2020 12:06:36 GMT -5
LMFAO Man that's exactly what i do and this is my problem. i try to hit less straight but i need to know where is the limit. that's the object of my question But thanks for the advice
Again, this is probably totally the wrong place for personal swing advice etc. But... We’re you pulled for being to straight on Xbox? Did you use the same pads on Xbox? Do they produce the same lines on Xbox? Answering some of the above might help you to find the cause - stop focusing on the effect. If all things are equal, it’s a mystery. If there are some differences, then start with the next point in the fault finding logic. i always replied for that but whatever that's NOT the subject. I just use a personnal issue to ask some questions affecting everybody (straighter, flicker and puller)
The question is where is the limit of pull shots ? what i showed is pull or not ? pass the api or not ? it's simple cause these shots are intentional shots
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Feb 28, 2020 12:08:52 GMT -5
I don't like the implications I am reading into here. I have had a long standing monthly donation that went on without fail through my own swing issues and debates on this very forum. I never used my perceived position or donations to threaten or coerce any position Admin would take. This site takes a game/franchise that would basically be dead without it and turns it into something good for many, many people. Could it be improved? Of course it can. Admin has been proactive in this very thread and the other thread that is basically a how to of how to cheese. Please do not use money as leverage point. The back and forth here and in the other thread do much more to come to conclusions and flesh out thought processes than threatening a site that needs donations just to "keep the lights on". Honestly, I don't even know if this site ever covers the costs it takes to run outside of bursts after a couple of asks for just that.. to cover costs. Bob?, Just voicing my opinion. I suppose we can agree to disagree. I will leave it at that because I don’t want to follow a third alias. I actually moderately agree with your position on this swing issue. I just don't want perceived monetary threats or "bonuses" to be a thing when they are being active as this unfolds. As an aside, not sure what you mean by "following a third alias" other than taking some kind of shot against me? What is even the point in doing that, if so.
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Post by Cecil Harvey on Feb 28, 2020 12:10:12 GMT -5
Again, this is probably totally the wrong place for personal swing advice etc. But... We’re you pulled for being to straight on Xbox? Did you use the same pads on Xbox? Do they produce the same lines on Xbox? Answering some of the above might help you to find the cause - stop focusing on the effect. If all things are equal, it’s a mystery. If there are some differences, then start with the next point in the fault finding logic. i always replied for that but whatever that's NOT the subject. I just use a personnal issue to ask some questions affecting everybody (straighter, flicker and puller)
The question is where is the limit of pull shots ? what i showed is pull or not ? pass the api or not ? it's simple
There is a fair play sub forum available to everyone on these forums. You can pro-actively use it to ask these same questions.
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Post by fadgewacker on Feb 28, 2020 12:11:07 GMT -5
Again, this is probably totally the wrong place for personal swing advice etc. But... We’re you pulled for being to straight on Xbox? Did you use the same pads on Xbox? Do they produce the same lines on Xbox? Answering some of the above might help you to find the cause - stop focusing on the effect. If all things are equal, it’s a mystery. If there are some differences, then start with the next point in the fault finding logic. i always replied for that but whatever that's NOT the subject. I just use a personnal issue to ask some questions affecting everybody (straighter, flicker and puller)
The question is where is the limit of pull shots ? what i showed is pull or not ? pass the api or not ? it's simple
You’re asking the wrong guy. You need to ask the admin team directly, but I think you know the answer you will get, so by asking us, all you are asking is our opinion. What I will say is that if you swing that way today, you will pass API. If you swing that way in a couple of weeks time, maybe not.
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Post by CuseHokie on Feb 28, 2020 12:16:00 GMT -5
Bob?, Just voicing my opinion. I suppose we can agree to disagree. I will leave it at that because I don’t want to follow a third alias. I actually moderately agree with your position on this swing issue. I just don't want perceived monetary threats or "bonuses" to be a thing when they are being active as this unfolds. As an aside, not sure what you mean by "following a third alias" other than taking some kind of shot against me? What is even the point in doing that, if so. I’m just not sure what’s with the new name. And will you change again when you disagree with someone.
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Post by nick80 on Feb 28, 2020 12:24:17 GMT -5
i always replied for that but whatever that's NOT the subject. I just use a personnal issue to ask some questions affecting everybody (straighter, flicker and puller)
The question is where is the limit of pull shots ? what i showed is pull or not ? pass the api or not ? it's simple
There is a fair play sub forum available to everyone on these forums. You can pro-actively use it to ask these same questions.
did you read what i wrote ? it' not personnal
There's a sub forum ?
explain to me what is the subject of this 23 pages thread ? PGA round ?
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