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Post by theduke21 on Feb 29, 2020 4:11:35 GMT -5
So I went back and downloaded TGC and TGC2 since the games sizes are so small just to swing and remember how the feedback was on lines with that game. No short swinging was possible. HB_CraigC...Sep 2019: 'It's also been stated before that "short swings" or "flick swings" or whatever it's being called these days, has always been present in the TGC franchise. It was never an issue in previous TGCs - because you couldn't see it... because we never displayed 1:1 user swing input prior to TGC 2019 (again, I've made this post before...). The design decision to display 1:1 swing input was to offer better tools to the end user (that's you guys), to improve on their individual swing mechanics - to see what they are doing wrong. Masking your input, ala TGC1 and 2, wasn't at all helpful when trying to improve your swing line. Now, whether or not that design decision was to your liking is your opinion - you're entitled to it'. Maybe I'm just bad at doing it, but when I tried to short swing a bit ago when hitting around, my lines would still extend all the way toward the right or left of the cone and penalize me on direction. I thought the swing data from the first two games was essentially averaged and extended into a straight or curved line, thus making flicking not effective because if you're line stopped a bit past halfway in the middle, but was starting to angle one direction or the other, the game would take that data, average it into a full swing, and give you that big curved line at the top and hurt your direction. Might be wrong though. Really wasn't around much during the flicking era. Just mentioned it when messing around earlier because I was personally getting bad swings when trying it, and I have been able to successfully do it on TGC19 before. Either way, don't want to get into flicking at all because I don't know enough about it and it's hopefully in the past in general.
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Post by LKeet6 on Feb 29, 2020 5:16:06 GMT -5
I'm sorry for having an opinion, I thought everyone was entitled to one but I didn't realise I would end up getting all this sh%$ thrown at me over it! It's fine if you don't agree with anything I say but I haven't ended up mocking everything you all say because I don't agree with it....seems like you can't have an opinion in here without getting roasted if it's not the "right" thing to say! I'm not the bad guy in all this, just having my say and all along I have agreed with the main topic in question...anyways I'm gonna leave it now as I'm not getting drawn into a slanging match because it seems some of you are pushing for one. Enjoy your evenings guys But a large part of "your say" was pointing out how everyone was getting way too worked about a silly little game, and you demonstrated that by...getting all worked up about a silly little game. I believe you wanted to defend your mate, and thought you'd do that by saying something belittling to the "other side" in order to take away credence to what they were saying. But in reality, we all like playing this game, we probably most/all (including you) treat it in a similar way (care about it, put time into it, but definitely NOT the be all and end all...) If you really HAD just said your opinion on this, instead of displaying massive hypocrisy with your "only a game" comments, you probably would've got a lot further, and not had all the comeback you've gotten. (And I really don't thing it's been THAT bad anyway! You've just had a lot of people telling you you're wrong. "It's not the end of the world!" )
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Post by aron7 on Feb 29, 2020 6:40:19 GMT -5
I'm sorry for having an opinion, I thought everyone was entitled to one but I didn't realise I would end up getting all this sh%$ thrown at me over it! It's fine if you don't agree with anything I say but I haven't ended up mocking everything you all say because I don't agree with it....seems like you can't have an opinion in here without getting roasted if it's not the "right" thing to say! I'm not the bad guy in all this, just having my say and all along I have agreed with the main topic in question...anyways I'm gonna leave it now as I'm not getting drawn into a slanging match because it seems some of you are pushing for one. Enjoy your evenings guys But a large part of "your say" was pointing out how everyone was getting way too worked about a silly little game, and you demonstrated that by...getting all worked up about a silly little game. I believe you wanted to defend your mate, and thought you'd do that by saying something belittling to the "other side" in order to take away credence to what they were saying. But in reality, we all like playing this game, we probably most/all (including you) treat it in a similar way (care about it, put time into it, but definitely NOT the be all and end all...) If you really HAD just said your opinion on this, instead of displaying massive hypocrisy with your "only a game" comments, you probably would've got a lot further, and not had all the comeback you've gotten. (And I really don't thing it's been THAT bad anyway! You've just had a lot of people telling you you're wrong. "It's not the end of the world!" ) I've never tried to belittle anyone......the trouble with these forums is that the written word can be taken the wrong way compared to the spoken word! I never intended to piss anyone off and at the end of the day I'm not looking to fall out with anyone, been in this community for a couple of years now and generally it's always been good. This thread has brought out the worst in some of us including myself when really the problem lies with the developer and only them! They are probably enjoying all this as it's giving them a bit of exposure but it's just creating divides between people who normally would chat in a civilized manner! Anyway I'm done with arguing and hope we can all move on from this and get back to normality
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Post by LKeet6 on Feb 29, 2020 6:55:35 GMT -5
But a large part of "your say" was pointing out how everyone was getting way too worked about a silly little game, and you demonstrated that by...getting all worked up about a silly little game. I believe you wanted to defend your mate, and thought you'd do that by saying something belittling to the "other side" in order to take away credence to what they were saying. But in reality, we all like playing this game, we probably most/all (including you) treat it in a similar way (care about it, put time into it, but definitely NOT the be all and end all...) If you really HAD just said your opinion on this, instead of displaying massive hypocrisy with your "only a game" comments, you probably would've got a lot further, and not had all the comeback you've gotten. (And I really don't thing it's been THAT bad anyway! You've just had a lot of people telling you you're wrong. "It's not the end of the world!" ) I've never tried to belittle anyone......the trouble with these forums is that the written word can be taken the wrong way compared to the spoken word! I never intended to piss anyone off and at the end of the day I'm not looking to fall out with anyone, been in this community for a couple of years now and generally it's always been good. This thread has brought out the worst in some of us including myself when really the problem lies with the developer and only them! They are probably enjoying all this as it's giving them a bit of exposure but it's just creating divides between people who normally would chat in a civilized manner! Anyway I'm done with arguing and hope we can all move on from this and get back to normality Ok, well I've disagreed with a lot of stuff you've said in this thread, but I can't disagree with the above. There were certain things I saw that are "no nos" to me, which is probably why I reacted quite strongly... I'm not looking to argue with anyone either, and agree that the cause of the issue is the broken mechanic. Also happy to leave it there
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Post by unclevirt on Feb 29, 2020 7:13:23 GMT -5
29/31+
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Post by sandsaver01 on Feb 29, 2020 7:59:50 GMT -5
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Post by searchingforthegains on Feb 29, 2020 9:12:51 GMT -5
We got people watching twitch vods and going through all their old youtube videos. We've hit a new low boys. The low of all of this in my opinion, is starting this thread off, disappearing as it didn’t go in the direction you were hoping, and slagging everybody off on Twitch, where they can’t respond, while banning people for “self promotion”, while completely and utterly refusing to look facts in the face. Just to be clear on this cause you seem to say you want the facts but now you're spreading misinformation. 1) he didnt get banned 2) Not sure why you put self promotion in quotes, he said "im going live at <insert my channel name> , you will get banned in 95%+ of twitch channels doing that. If putting your actual channel in the chat isn't self promotion then I dont know what is.
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Post by Doyley on Feb 29, 2020 9:34:45 GMT -5
Come a point in threads like this one where the points on both sides have been made, convincing the other side to change their minds is attempted and things become a bit more personal.
Think we're closing in on that last point now so I'm going to shut this thread down.
I'll be working on figuring out what we do going forward in the next few days. Will be at least 1 more week with things status quo.
Let's try to be nice to each other in the meantime thx!
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