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LIDAR?
Jun 27, 2019 23:00:40 GMT -5
Post by jeromeg52 on Jun 27, 2019 23:00:40 GMT -5
Question: I see LIDAR courses popping up. I know what LIDAR is. Are these courses representing themselves as accurate representations of real courses. If so, are they?
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LIDAR?
Jun 28, 2019 2:12:12 GMT -5
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Post by TheDominator273 on Jun 28, 2019 2:12:12 GMT -5
Yes and yes
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LIDAR?
Jun 28, 2019 2:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by joegolferg on Jun 28, 2019 2:13:55 GMT -5
Yes and yes
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LIDAR?
Jun 28, 2019 6:01:14 GMT -5
Post by linkslover on Jun 28, 2019 6:01:14 GMT -5
That will be a yes and yes then.
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Post by andyf on Jun 28, 2019 7:08:31 GMT -5
It really depends on your definition of accurate...
Accurate in terms of elevation data - Definitely yes Accurate in terms of course layout and green sizes, fairway widths, bunker sizes - Depends on how good the designer has carried out the mapping in OSM and any subsequent changes required in the game designer as the two things very rarely match exactly Accurate in terms of trees and course features - Purely depends on how much time the designer wants to spend making the course look like the original
You can very quickly produce a LIDAR course if all you are after is something that plays similar to the original. I produced a course in less than 3 hours the other night because my golf team needed something to look at in terms of the layout of various greens and fairways on a course we were playing. The 'finished' course was suitable for what we needed but in my opinion could never be classed as an RCR as it was missing a lot of the details.
I've also got my home course that I'm in the process of designing which has been done using the LIDAR import however I've spent months on getting everything else to look perfect in terms of the right types of trees in the right areas and to the correct heights, the placement of the paths and bunkers and greens, the external surroundings of the course in terms of houses and roads and also the little details like flowers, ball washers etc.
Andy
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Post by lessangster on Jul 20, 2019 10:22:08 GMT -5
If you have a PC to design on but not the game at the minute will Chad’s Lidar tool output the data to a folder of your choosing so that you have the the course in its raw form. Then when you buy the golf club 2019 you just transfer the file into the courses folder. Can you also start with a flat piece of land and use the program on open street map just to get the holes in the right place.
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Post by gamesdecent on Jul 20, 2019 11:03:22 GMT -5
If you have a PC to design on but not the game at the minute will Chad’s Lidar tool output the data to a folder of your choosing so that you have the the course in its raw form. Then when you buy the golf club 2019 you just transfer the file into the courses folder. Can you also start with a flat piece of land and use the program on open street map just to get the holes in the right place. Someone would have to send you a blank course file to import into Chad's tool in order for it to export a course file. Yes, you can import only the OSM if you just want to get the layout of the course but not the LIDAR data.
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Post by lessangster on Jul 20, 2019 12:05:14 GMT -5
If you have a PC to design on but not the game at the minute will Chad’s Lidar tool output the data to a folder of your choosing so that you have the the course in its raw form. Then when you buy the golf club 2019 you just transfer the file into the courses folder. Can you also start with a flat piece of land and use the program on open street map just to get the holes in the right place. Someone would have to send you a blank course file to import into Chad's tool in order for it to export a course file. Yes, you can import only the OSM if you just want to get the layout of the course but not the LIDAR data. I’m mulling over getting a PC to try importing lidar data into the game but I’m not sure if I can get the game straight away from steam I don’t fancy paying full price for it.
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Post by lessangster on Jul 20, 2019 12:08:14 GMT -5
If you have a PC to design on but not the game at the minute will Chad’s Lidar tool output the data to a folder of your choosing so that you have the the course in its raw form. Then when you buy the golf club 2019 you just transfer the file into the courses folder. Can you also start with a flat piece of land and use the program on open street map just to get the holes in the right place. Someone would have to send you a blank course file to import into Chad's tool in order for it to export a course file. Yes, you can import only the OSM if you just want to get the layout of the course but not the LIDAR data. I know you can just import the Lidar data just to get terrain then build your own course round that, there is an area near me that used to have a golf course on it but it’s gone now, there is still Lidar data for the area from when the course was there. There is also another area near me on a flood plain that has data as well and I think it would make a good golf course.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 12:19:18 GMT -5
Someone would have to send you a blank course file to import into Chad's tool in order for it to export a course file. Yes, you can import only the OSM if you just want to get the layout of the course but not the LIDAR data. I know you can just import the Lidar data just to get terrain then build your own course round that, there is an area near me that used to have a golf course on it but it’s gone now, there is still Lidar data for the area from when the course was there. There is also another area near me on a flood plain that has data as well and I think it would make a good golf course.
Is it worth checking to see if OSM still has imagery of it? The longer ago it closed the less likely this is. Courses that closed >10yrs ago are probably a lost cause for OSM, but in more recent times it could work. I'm just starting OSM for Wolf Run (Indiana) which closed in 2018 and there's still plenty of imagery for it, although none of it is particularly crisp. For a course such as Tallgrass on Long Island, perhaps it has already been updated with more current imagery?
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Post by lessangster on Jul 20, 2019 12:41:02 GMT -5
I know you can just import the Lidar data just to get terrain then build your own course round that, there is an area near me that used to have a golf course on it but it’s gone now, there is still Lidar data for the area from when the course was there. There is also another area near me on a flood plain that has data as well and I think it would make a good golf course.
Is it worth checking to see if OSM still has imagery of it? The longer ago it closed the less likely this is. Courses that closed >10yrs ago are probably a lost cause for OSM, but in more recent times it could work. I'm just starting OSM for Wolf Run (Indiana) which closed in 2018 and there's still plenty of imagery for it, although none of it is particularly crisp. For a course such as Tallgrass on Long Island, perhaps it has already been updated with more current imagery?
The course is still there on openstreetmap at the minute
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LIDAR?
Jul 20, 2019 13:13:10 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 13:13:10 GMT -5
Is it worth checking to see if OSM still has imagery of it? The longer ago it closed the less likely this is. Courses that closed >10yrs ago are probably a lost cause for OSM, but in more recent times it could work. I'm just starting OSM for Wolf Run (Indiana) which closed in 2018 and there's still plenty of imagery for it, although none of it is particularly crisp. For a course such as Tallgrass on Long Island, perhaps it has already been updated with more current imagery?
The course is still there on openstreetmap at the minute Yeah, just found it . Only for the ESRI imagery though but it's plenty clear. Too bad last I tried, NOAA Coast was running at snail pace so didn't get to see what the LiDAR data quality is like.
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