ffrog
Amateur Golfer
Posts: 247
TGCT Name: Dave Richards
Tour: Challenge Circuit
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Post by ffrog on Jun 8, 2019 4:44:34 GMT -5
I find it very difficult to resist going for dangerous par 5s in 2, so I have a 2 wood in the bag and all the wedges so i can try and salvage something from wherever I end up.
Other than that i try not to have any big gaps between clubs, so there’s at least one hybrid in there which fills a gap.
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HELLERUD
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TGCT Name: Jesse Hellerud
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Post by HELLERUD on Jun 10, 2019 9:11:50 GMT -5
Driver 2 wood 1 3 5-Wedges I have a gap in between 1, 3 and 5 that I can’t stand. Any suggestions? I was thinking a hybrid instead of 3 iron?
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Post by cephyn on Jun 12, 2019 10:47:42 GMT -5
Driver 2 wood 1 3 5-Wedges I have a gap in between 1, 3 and 5 that I can’t stand. Any suggestions? I was thinking a hybrid instead of 3 iron? That's my bag too, and those gaps are indeed annoying - really have to learn how loft/deloft affects the 1 and 3 irons....its reversed from 4i on down. If you loft a 1i, it will go further. Delofting will shorten it (but does give tons of roll on downhill shots) Take them on the driving range to see.
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 12, 2019 13:23:32 GMT -5
Driver 2 wood 1 3 5-Wedges I have a gap in between 1, 3 and 5 that I can’t stand. Any suggestions? I was thinking a hybrid instead of 3 iron? That's my bag too, and those gaps are indeed annoying - really have to learn how loft/deloft affects the 1 and 3 irons....its reversed from 4i on down. If you loft a 1i, it will go further. Delofting will shorten it (but does give tons of roll on downhill shots) Take them on the driving range to see. I'd say the best place to have the gap would depend on conditions. If they're very firm and fast I like to pull my 5 iron out because it doesn't respond to loft unless it's very windy, unless I need it for a specific hole. If it's soft and slower though, I'll pull the SW out. My 2 bags are D 2w 1i 3i-4i 6i-pw gw Sw Lw or for casuals(easier conditions) D 2w 1i 3-pw gw lw. I would never put a hybrid in my bag
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Post by Todd on Jun 13, 2019 0:18:02 GMT -5
That's my bag too, and those gaps are indeed annoying - really have to learn how loft/deloft affects the 1 and 3 irons....its reversed from 4i on down. If you loft a 1i, it will go further. Delofting will shorten it (but does give tons of roll on downhill shots) Take them on the driving range to see. I'd say the best place to have the gap would depend on conditions. If they're very firm and fast I like to pull my 5 iron out because it doesn't respond to loft unless it's very windy, unless I need it for a specific hole. If it's soft and slower though, I'll pull the SW out. My 2 bags are D 2w 1i 3i-4i 6i-pw gw Sw Lw or for casuals(easier conditions) D 2w 1i 3-pw gw lw. I would never put a hybrid in my bag What's the knock on hybrids? I have D, 2w, 2h, 6h, 6-all wedges. It seems no matter what you do there will be gaps, but since switching to this I've scored better. Reading this post, I will have to at least try the 1 3 iron combo for a couple weeks and see how it goes. 😎
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Post by ohheycat on Jun 13, 2019 5:57:26 GMT -5
I'd say the best place to have the gap would depend on conditions. If they're very firm and fast I like to pull my 5 iron out because it doesn't respond to loft unless it's very windy, unless I need it for a specific hole. If it's soft and slower though, I'll pull the SW out. My 2 bags are D 2w 1i 3i-4i 6i-pw gw Sw Lw or for casuals(easier conditions) D 2w 1i 3-pw gw lw. I would never put a hybrid in my bag What's the knock on hybrids? I have D, 2w, 2h, 6h, 6-all wedges. It seems no matter what you do there will be gaps, but since switching to this I've scored better. Reading this post, I will have to at least try the 1 3 iron combo for a couple weeks and see how it goes. 😎 They're useless from the rough, if like to at least have a chance
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Post by cephyn on Jun 13, 2019 7:17:22 GMT -5
Agreed with heydog - hybrids are trash in this game out of the rough, and a 1i and 3i out of the rough has saved my butt countless times.
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Post by Todd on Jun 13, 2019 8:49:11 GMT -5
Thank you, I will give them a shot. 😎
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Post by Riotous on Jul 8, 2019 8:31:59 GMT -5
Starting to consider taking the 2 wood out and grabbing a club that’s 10 yds shorter, it seems to me that a lot Par 5’s that are designed to be reachable in two are too short for 2 woods but too long for my 1 iron, I appreciate this is wind dependent
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Post by nobluffme on Jul 9, 2019 6:10:33 GMT -5
Biggest change I made, and hasn’t affected my game was eliminating LW.
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Aug 6, 2019 5:07:03 GMT -5
Starting to consider taking the 2 wood out and grabbing a club that’s 10 yds shorter, it seems to me that a lot Par 5’s that are designed to be reachable in two are too short for 2 woods but too long for my 1 iron, I appreciate this is wind dependent
This is a constant challenge with my setup. Figuring how to get a fast downswing with the 1 iron somewhat consistently helps manage the gap. Sometimes I just accept 40 feet short or long (depending what gets me under the hole or avoids the most trouble) or I try to manage to take a little off by holding a cut or draw into a crosswind.
There's no setup that leaves you without gaps somewhere. So the options are really to scout courses and adjust your bag for course and wind before the round (who's got time for that?) or find ways to manage the gap with shotmaking or course management (what I think most top players are doing).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 7:29:00 GMT -5
Biggest change I made, and hasn’t affected my game was eliminating LW. Man I would DIE without a LW, not used much for full shots (pitching fills that gap) but for chips and flops it is a go-to club for me.
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Post by nobluffme on Aug 7, 2019 5:49:06 GMT -5
Biggest change I made, and hasn’t affected my game was eliminating LW. Man I would DIE without a LW, not used much for full shots (pitching fills that gap) but for chips and flops it is a go-to club for me. I’ve learned how to flop a SW 10 yards...plus, been practicing how to swing clubs 90%.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 7:39:10 GMT -5
Man I would DIE without a LW, not used much for full shots (pitching fills that gap) but for chips and flops it is a go-to club for me. I’ve learned how to flop a SW 10 yards...plus, been practicing how to swing clubs 90%. I only WISH I could control the power percentage on any type of shot! I just cannot find any consistency, it varies by +/- 15% no matter how much I practice, and that makes a huge difference in distance. The only way I find that works for me (Master Clubs, doesn't work on Beginner) is to use Very Slow tempo. That cuts the distance on flops and chips about in half and is much less sensitive.
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Post by prodi on Feb 16, 2020 4:41:21 GMT -5
Well after much testing I found hybrids and woods to be much less effective then Irons out of the rough. In fact as backwards as this sounds, the 1 Iron is the best rescue club in the game. Here is my setup and it serves me well. The only club I ever miss is not having a 4 Iron but otherwise all my gaps are perfectly spaced. Driver,2 wood 1,3,5-9 Iron, PW,GW,SW,LW
I'm almost the exact same. I usually have a 4 iron but no 5 iron because I think de-lofting the 6 iron is more effective in adding yards to fill the distance gap caused by the missing club.
Even with the driver off the deck going a similar distance, it is not nearly as accurate. I think I get a lot more eagles chances out of the 2 wood that I would hitting driver. 2 wood is also valuable off the tee where I need to lay back a little from the driver landing area.
Agree on 1 iron being better than hybrids for rescue. the real life height advantage hitting hybrids out of the rough over long irons doesn't translate to this game.
This sounds like a great setup and compromise. I've been playing D,2W,2I,4I-LW for a long time and have had issues with both the gap between 2W and 2I and between 2I and 4I, especially for akward-distance 3-par holes and some long approach shots. The point about delofting the 6I instead of using 5I is something I've actually used in practice for some conditions, so I think the 5I shouldn't be too missed compared to the gains made by cutting the gaps in the longer range clubs. I contemplated removing one of the wedges, but find them all so important in the short game that I can't justify removing any of the four. -prodi
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