Andy Tracy
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TGCT Name: Andy Tracy
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Post by Andy Tracy on Feb 3, 2015 18:14:51 GMT -5
It's not your honor vs the field in a video game as is the case in real golf. In this game your score is verified by the game and the game is 100% accurate. Since all scores are verified on this tour, it is impossible to cheat and the honor part doesn't make any sense to me.
My two cents on why it should be a penalty and not a DQ. BTW the logistics behind the volunteers who run this great tour should be the most important factor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 18:33:34 GMT -5
100% accurate? So those that verify scores are incapable of making mistakes and overlooking inaccurate entries? Honor has no place?
I'll give you a dollar...that's a 98 cent profit for your 2 cents.
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Post by Oblong on Feb 3, 2015 18:37:54 GMT -5
I see it that they made the rules clear regarding the penalty for submitting a wrong score. For that reason I imagine most all us that have successfully submitted thousands of rounds at TGCTours have taken extra time and care to ensure they didn't DQ themselves. To make an exception otherwise would be an insult to everyone else who used extra effort in the process.
My tablet auto completes too and I've had to erase, but it is very simple not to fill out your name and then hit submit until you are 100% sure the score that displays quite largely is the correct one.
That is in no way not to say I sympathize with anyone who does get DQ'ed in this fashion. But it's just a game with no real paychecks on the line so it will be ok. Another tourney is ready to go in a few days.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 18:38:14 GMT -5
Lol
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Post by csugolfer60 on Feb 3, 2015 23:58:02 GMT -5
Question though...in real life, if you sign a scorecard and realize it's incorrect before you turn it in, what happens? My understanding is that, once you sign, you're saying that it's official whether you've turned it in or not. If there is an error, it needs to be addressed before you sign. I could be wrong though...my knowledge of the rulebook isn't all that deep. When the players enter the scorers tent, they are then to sign each other's cards. a submitted card must have the competitors signature and the markers signature. Once both signatures are on the card, it is turned in to the scorer, who totals the hole-by-hole scores and writes an official total. 2 important things of note - 1.) a signed card can STILL be changed, as LONG as the player has not exited the scoring area (the tent). 2.) an incorrect total score is irrelevant. ONLY the hole by hole scores matter for this issue. If a player marks one hole too high, and one hole too low, they will still come up with the same round total, but will still be DQed because one hole was signed for lower than the actual score. What this means? No clue... Still gotta play by the rules of the tour, and since hole by hole checks are impossible in TgC Tours, this system is still very good. |
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Post by snomelnairb on Feb 4, 2015 1:15:26 GMT -5
That's fair enough doyley I do understand. Coulf it be considered by you guys to maybe add an extra page in the future to the score submitting part so that there is a chance to change or confirm the score before final confirmation so we can avoid the accidently clicking submit? Afterall in real life you don't accidently submit you score card. Also aren't you to an extent increasing the requirement to double check ever score fully for every member cause the current rules encourage cheating rather than honesty and reporting a mistake. How about allowing the member to edit their own score that way it wouldn't increase the work load for you guys. Obviously you have to have a cut off date for edits but this shouldn't be too much of a problem? Just a suggestion. Thanks as always I personally think it's a bit insulting to even suggest these guys put an extra page in so you can submit your scores correctly. I have no idea how much work that would entail, even if it's minimal it's too much to ask for. These guys put countless hours in running this site and these tournaments for us for free. The very least we can do is submit the correct score or say we didn't and move on. That's our responsibility not anyone else's. |
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Post by Pubknight on Feb 4, 2015 9:46:15 GMT -5
With no word of a lie, I probably look at the round score of each round no less than half a dozen times before I hit submit.
I take a screenshot of the scorecard at the end of each round.
I enter the number, look at the screenshot, go back and forth a whole bunch of times.
When I know it's right, then and only then do I type in my name.
I check *that* to make sure I haven't forgotten how to spell my name.
And sneak a couple more looks at the score box and the screenshot, and then hit submit.
If I enter something wrong, I deserve to be DQd.
And I like the process, it makes the whole tournament process feel 'authentic'... which is likely why it's there in the first place.
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Post by Oblong on Feb 4, 2015 10:40:15 GMT -5
2 important things of note - 1.) a signed card can STILL be changed, as LONG as the player has not exited the scoring area (the tent). ..and in our case here the door to the scorers tent is the Submit button. Close that door with a wrong card and you are DQ'ed. Simple. |
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Post by fondername0 on Feb 4, 2015 11:36:11 GMT -5
How many people have actually been DQ'd on TGCtours due to an incorrect scorecard? If 99.9% of people do it right then it isn't broke. If it isn't broke, don't fix it.
Its 100% fine as is. just my opinion
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 5, 2015 9:03:40 GMT -5
That's fair enough doyley I do understand. Coulf it be considered by you guys to maybe add an extra page in the future to the score submitting part so that there is a chance to change or confirm the score before final confirmation so we can avoid the accidently clicking submit? Afterall in real life you don't accidently submit you score card. Also aren't you to an extent increasing the requirement to double check ever score fully for every member cause the current rules encourage cheating rather than honesty and reporting a mistake. How about allowing the member to edit their own score that way it wouldn't increase the work load for you guys. Obviously you have to have a cut off date for edits but this shouldn't be too much of a problem? Just a suggestion. Thanks as always I personally think it's a bit insulting to even suggest these guys put an extra page in so you can submit your scores correctly. I have no idea how much work that would entail, even if it's minimal it's too much to ask for. These guys put countless hours in running this site and these tournaments for us for free. The very least we can do is submit the correct score or say we didn't and move on. That's our responsibility not anyone else's. I don't see what is insulting about making a suggestion but I'll make sure I keep my insults to a very bare minimum in the future. |
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