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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 2:57:29 GMT -5
Hi guys,
A friend of mine, who also plays the euro tour, committed a typo when submitting his score. He instantly emailed the team to report the mistake and has now been dq'd from this weeks tour. I appreciate that the rules say if you make a mistake on your card you are dq'd but I really think this should be changed, at least in the future.
firstly, I think it is a real shame since mistakes do happen and I believe this hard and fast approach will force others (rather than admit their mistake) to leave it and this then relies on the marshals to spot the discrepancy. Also if there is no option but to implement the rules in this way, can I suggest after submitting the score there is the ability for the player to edit or confirm before it is set in stone? Like I say, I appreciate the rules are explicit, but I really think this isn't the spirit we all want this tour to be played in. It's a bit unfair when a typo is made, instantly noticed and the tour are informed but still results in instant dq. I know in real golf this can happen but in real golf you would be able to give your card a final look over before submitting and it can't be accidently submit by the cat standing on the mouse (which didn't happen in this case but could very well happen to me). I know all you guys running this are doing your best but hopefully there is something different that can be done in the future.
Thanks as always
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Post by woz77 on Feb 3, 2015 3:14:51 GMT -5
Same as in real life I guess, once you sign your card that's it. Doesn't matter if you realise an error and notify officials yourself.
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 3:30:55 GMT -5
No I do absolutely understand that but the act of submitting a score card in real life does allow you to check and double check before you hand it across the table. I just think in this situation there isn't the need to be quite so strict.
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Post by Doyley on Feb 3, 2015 3:43:01 GMT -5
Sorry guys, but with 1000+ members, we're being strict so that we don't have to do tons of admin work fixing everybody's mistakes. Plus, it's part of the sim experience since it's what they do on the pro tours. It's not going to change as we can't take on the extra work. Double check your scores before hitting submit - it's a tough lesson to learn, but it's important!
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 3:50:08 GMT -5
That's fair enough doyley I do understand. Coulf it be considered by you guys to maybe add an extra page in the future to the score submitting part so that there is a chance to change or confirm the score before final confirmation so we can avoid the accidently clicking submit? Afterall in real life you don't accidently submit you score card. Also aren't you to an extent increasing the requirement to double check ever score fully for every member cause the current rules encourage cheating rather than honesty and reporting a mistake. How about allowing the member to edit their own score that way it wouldn't increase the work load for you guys. Obviously you have to have a cut off date for edits but this shouldn't be too much of a problem? Just a suggestion. Thanks as always
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Post by Tim on Feb 3, 2015 6:46:34 GMT -5
We give you a big RED box that shows your score when you enter it. Please look there and verify before hitting submit.
This responsibility is solely on the player to verify before clicking the submit button. It's not like you can hit the submit button by accident. You have to actually type your name in before it will accept your score.
This rule will not change.
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 6:47:47 GMT -5
No I know Gary, and I'm sure it won't be a mistake my mate will make ever again but honest mistakes happen to the best of us sometimes and like I said my mate would have been better off not admitting his mistake and hope for the marshals to miss him. So everyone is better off that he admitted it except him.
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Post by Tim on Feb 3, 2015 6:50:59 GMT -5
like I said my mate would have been better off not admitting his mistake and hope for the marshals to miss him. Really? |
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 6:53:49 GMT -5
It's not like you can hit the submit button by accident. You have to actually type your name in before it will accept your score. This rule will not change. Tried a fancy quote this might end in tears  I disagree I write my score, sign, then check so there is the potential to accidently submit a score. Ultimately if thems the rules thems the rules. I just think with one extra page to confirm 100% or the ability for players to edit their own score before a cut off date would make you guys job easier (once you'd coded it of course and would stop a situation that ultimately I think everyone would agree is a shame, even if the end conclusion is 'thems the rules' Now to see if my quote worked |
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 7:04:07 GMT -5
like I said my mate would have been better off not admitting his mistake and hope for the marshals to miss him. Really? Well wouldn't he? Other than the obvious, not in the spirit etc etc. if he hadn't informed you he'd have been dq'd when you guys checked and since he did inform you he's dq'd anyway. I appreciate you might not be threatening him with being kicked off the tour since he informed you all but I'm not sure if the rules state you won't be kicked off the tour if you inform the team of a mistake. I'll go reread my tour handbook  ultimately guys it's not the end of the world, my mate understands he made a mistake and knew the rules and implications that mistake meant, but I just wondered if there was a better way. If there isn't that's ok Either way I'd beaten him this week anyway and I can widen the money list gap hopefully Thanks as always guys |
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Post by Tim on Feb 3, 2015 7:43:11 GMT -5
It's not like you can hit the submit button by accident. You have to actually type your name in before it will accept your score. This rule will not change. Tried a fancy quote this might end in tears I disagree I write my score, sign, then check so there is the potential to accidently submit a score. Ultimately if thems the rules thems the rules. I just think with one extra page to confirm 100% or the ability for players to edit their own score before a cut off date would make you guys job easier (once you'd coded it of course and would stop a situation that ultimately I think everyone would agree is a shame, even if the end conclusion is 'thems the rules' Now to see if my quote worked Not trying to start a debate here -- but why would I need to take the time to code an extra confirmation page when 99% of the 700+ golfers get this right each and every week? |
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Post by pillowofsoft on Feb 3, 2015 7:48:51 GMT -5
you don't I made a suggestion for something I thought would help everyone, you said ya not doing it, everyone gets on with their day.
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Post by Tim on Feb 3, 2015 7:56:36 GMT -5
Sorry -- I think I need more coffee ;-)
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Post by drivert on Feb 3, 2015 8:20:38 GMT -5
Ask Roberto De Vicenzo how bad it sucks to sign an incorrect scorecard
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 8:37:03 GMT -5
like I said my mate would have been better off not admitting his mistake and hope for the marshals to miss him. Really? I can speak to short experience, however that has zero chance of happening, because if they miss him, they miss him completely and no score would count then. |
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ultimately guys it's not the end of the world, my mate understands he made a mistake and knew the rules and implications that mistake meant, but I just wondered if there was a better way. If there isn't that's ok 
