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Post by YachtRocker on Oct 9, 2018 15:58:32 GMT -5
I get the left right side of the cup for break, but does it make a difference if I place the arrow above the cup for uphill or below for downhill? Is there any preferred way to help with accuracy like just placing the arrow on the cup and moving either left or right for break? Thanks, just something I was wondering about if there is a way to improve my putting accuracy.
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Post by lawman1474 on Oct 9, 2018 16:24:37 GMT -5
I get the left right side of the cup for break, but does it make a difference if I place the arrow above the cup for uphill or below for downhill? Is there any preferred way to help with accuracy like just placing the arrow on the cup and moving either left or right for break? Thanks, just something I was wondering about if there is a way to improve my putting accuracy. yes, the arrow is where your intention to aim at. so if uphill, then move arrow past the hole, if downhill, move arrow below the hole... formula below start by moving arrow at hole... example distance - 20 feet 6in. uphill putt = distance(20 ft) + (slope(6in) * 1.5 ) + 2 = 31 ft. - so move marker past hole to 31ft downhill putt = distance(20 ft) - (slope(6in) + 2 = 16 ft - so move marker below hole to 16ft |
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 9, 2018 18:21:07 GMT -5
Yes, it absolutely matters. You have to experiment with it and different green speeds behave differently, but my general rule of thumb so far has been double the elevation in inches past the hole in feet, and 1:1 ratio for downhill.
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Post by Epiphanic on Oct 9, 2018 18:51:31 GMT -5
Does it matter though? If you put the marker 10 ft in front of you but go full bore on the putt you're going to hit it 100+ ft (depending on the speed of the green. I can see placing the marker long or short as a reminder for how much "oomph" to put on the ball, but I don't believe it has any effect on how far the ball goes.
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Post by YachtRocker on Oct 9, 2018 21:56:17 GMT -5
Thanks for the replies, I'll try those tips. Lawman got some algebra going on there, I'll play with that also.
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 9, 2018 23:27:51 GMT -5
Does it matter though? If you put the marker 10 ft in front of you but go full bore on the putt you're going to hit it 100+ ft (depending on the speed of the green. I can see placing the marker long or short as a reminder for how much "oomph" to put on the ball, but I don't believe it has any effect on how far the ball goes. Yes, it matters. Setting the target lets the game know that is your intended aim point. There seems to be a zone of forgiveness around the target that assists you to hit it to that distance much more consistently than if you didn’t use the marker. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2018 23:55:55 GMT -5
No, it's literally 100% irrelevant, but it might have a placebo effect so if you want to move it to certain distances then go ahead  The new game already slows down the ball as it approaches the hole, so any minor controlling effect it might have had on TGC2 is no longer relevant. I regularly play with putting marker off and backswing length is the only thing that matters. |
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Post by blackaces13 on Oct 10, 2018 5:54:27 GMT -5
Hmmm. I know it mattered in previous games. I’ll experiment and see what I notice. I’m not buying that it doesn’t matter though. My distance control is way too good to be a function of solely backswing length.
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Post by JosiaDB on Oct 10, 2018 9:35:38 GMT -5
I have to agree with larry. I don't think the back/forward distance matters at all, other than being mental. The left / right just gives you a point of reference to make it easier to see where you are aiming. I've suspicioned that the up/down didn't matter though, because I regardless of where the marker was, the ball still went the same for me, based on how hard I hit it. But then, playing in his ultra sim society, I realize it even more. if it did matter, then by playing without the marker, it should have some great effect, and it does not.
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 10, 2018 10:45:13 GMT -5
No, it's literally 100% irrelevant, but it might have a placebo effect so if you want to move it to certain distances then go ahead The new game already slows down the ball as it approaches the hole, so any minor controlling effect it might have had on TGC2 is no longer relevant. I regularly play with putting marker off and backswing length is the only thing that matters. Putting marker off still pre-sets the marker, it’s just that it is invisible and cannot be moved. The rubber banding is stronger than in TGC2. So - it does matter quite a lot where you put the marker, but the pre set is very good in TGC2019, so a move back or forward is very rarely needed. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 10:55:50 GMT -5
No, it's literally 100% irrelevant, but it might have a placebo effect so if you want to move it to certain distances then go ahead The new game already slows down the ball as it approaches the hole, so any minor controlling effect it might have had on TGC2 is no longer relevant. I regularly play with putting marker off and backswing length is the only thing that matters. Putting marker off still pre-sets the marker, it’s just that it is invisible and cannot be moved. The rubber banding is stronger than in TGC2. So - it does matter quite a lot where you put the marker, but the pre set is very good in TGC2019, so a move back or forward is very rarely needed. Will have to agree to disagree I've tested it out in full AIDS mode where I put the marker at random silly locations (e.g. 2ft in front of me on a 40ft putt, 100ft in front on a 5ft putt) and it made zero difference, so I have no choice but to conclude backswing length is all that matters. In fact when I was practising on St Bedes I was checking the worm cam (which I hardly ever do in this game but those greens are brutal), which as you know moves the putting marker back and forth now rather than keeping it in place, but I just let it remain wherever it ended up every time, and it made no difference whatsoever. |
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Post by YachtRocker on Oct 10, 2018 11:43:54 GMT -5
Putting marker off still pre-sets the marker, it’s just that it is invisible and cannot be moved. The rubber banding is stronger than in TGC2. So - it does matter quite a lot where you put the marker, but the pre set is very good in TGC2019, so a move back or forward is very rarely needed. Will have to agree to disagree I've tested it out in full AIDS mode where I put the marker at random silly locations (e.g. 2ft in front of me on a 40ft putt, 100ft in front on a 5ft putt) and it made zero difference, so I have no choice but to conclude backswing length is all that matters. In fact when I was practising on St Bedes I was checking the worm cam (which I hardly ever do in this game but those greens are brutal), which as you know moves the putting marker back and forth now rather than keeping it in place, but I just let it remain wherever it ended up every time, and it made no difference whatsoever. I have to agree with you, where the marker is preset seems to be pretty right on front to back when trying some of these tips here. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 11:47:59 GMT -5
Just made a video to show what I mean. 28ft putt, timed my backswing to be about 30ft and it went about 30ft every time no matter if the marker was 30ft, 100ft or 0ft away: Edit: just in case people are unfamiliar with the Ben Shapiro meme, Ben is some conservative pundit who you always see in youtube recommendations with ridiculous titles about him DESTROYING people with arguments, the below is a good summary, just thought it would be funny in this context  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2018 13:16:06 GMT -5
No, it's literally 100% irrelevant, but it might have a placebo effect so if you want to move it to certain distances then go ahead The new game already slows down the ball as it approaches the hole, so any minor controlling effect it might have had on TGC2 is no longer relevant. I regularly play with putting marker off and backswing length is the only thing that matters. The rubber banding is stronger than in TGC2.
So - it does matter quite a lot where you put the marker, but the pre set is very good in TGC2019, so a move back or forward is very rarely needed.This is why someone wouldn't notice it even if it wasn't visible. Defaulting on the hole and not presetting the marker should be what is done. By having the marker preset, it is doing quite a bit of work for the user, IMO. |
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Post by mcbogga on Oct 10, 2018 13:39:52 GMT -5
Putting marker off still pre-sets the marker, it’s just that it is invisible and cannot be moved.The rubber banding is stronger than in TGC2.
So - it does matter quite a lot where you put the marker, but the pre set is very good in TGC2019, so a move back or forward is very rarely needed. This is why someone wouldn't notice it even if it wasn't visible. Defaulting on the hole and not presetting the marker should be what is done. By having the marker preset, it is doing quite a bit of work for the user, IMO. If shot selection is turned off it defaults on the hole, at least for marker only play. |
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