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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2015 11:22:13 GMT -5
This week on the PGA Tour, (Yeti) the wind seems to be blowing 12-20 consistently. The par 5s were unreachable in two. I played my first two rounds in those conditions and at -15, will likely miss the cut. I'm curious to hear from the top players who shot in the 50's. what winds did you play in?
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Post by Fluid druid on Feb 11, 2015 12:14:18 GMT -5
The prob is that some courses are poles apart when it comes to little or no wind and med to high winds, and sasquatch point is one of them, i started out in 13-17 mph, thankfully it did not climb higher, in fact it came down to about 10 mph for the last 6 odd holes, i finished -9 mainly thanks to an eagle on the par 4 15th or 16th forget which then on 18 i put my tee shot in the water and put my drop in the hole for bird. 2nd round 7-11 mph -11. I tend to throw a few ghosts in as well and i could easily tell from them that they were playing in very little wind, i'm not that bothered about it as there is nothing anyone can do about it until HB decide to change it. Even when i do catch a good wind i cannot put in 2, 3 or 4 rounds in one go, so until hb change it i dont look on these tours seriously as its never gonna be a level playing field, it's just a bit of fun that helps keep me playing otherwise i would never play at all.
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Post by crewman on Feb 26, 2015 9:02:10 GMT -5
I'm glad I found this thread. I was laying in bed last night, thinking of my first tournament on the horizon next week and wondered if "wind waiting" was taking place. It seemed unfair and, quite frankly, unethical type of practice. I also didn't know if it was frowned on (I'm glad it is) or if not widely practiced. I'm glad to see this community keeping with the inherent self honesty and discipline as the real life great game of golf.
I agree that tournaments should be able to regulate the wind settings, or at least lock them in (whatever the conditions) for each round until that round has been completed by the players. I also think HB should change it so that you cannot equip anything but a putter when your ball is on the green. I was surprised to see otherwise.
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Post by Elk22 on Feb 26, 2015 10:37:50 GMT -5
Great thread. Im prob. gunna miss the cut this week by one stroke, played first round in high wind. I know alot of ppl I talk to on here and play with live feel the same as well. Same conditions for all. My roomie had to play all rounds Sunday, due to work, he shot 59, 62 as the wind died in rounds 2 and 3. His round one score caused him to miss the cut in a 12 to 16mph wind. Hope this can be implemented. Please speak up and post if you agree, or go to the link on page 1. Need all to come out the woodwork if you are frustrated by wind waiters!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 12:23:42 GMT -5
I would prefer 4 different pins. The question is how hard & how time consuming is it to add 3 more pins to a course? I don't design courses so I don't have any idea. As a designer it takes some time and thought as well as good green design to begin with to set additional pin positions on a single course. You will already see some out there with Thursday - Sunday versions; Pin set A ...etc. Compared to the time it takes to actually build the course adding extra pin positions doesn't take that much time and this adds greater variety and what seems like replay-ability to a course. Since we are forced to publish individual courses with different pin positions they are really 2 different courses, so one of those pin settings might rise towards the top while the other 3 fall by the wayside. Of course this gives a designer a better shot at one of the four being played more often if the original design is good and compelling and somehow does not get lost in the thousands out there. The extra pin positions really shine in the tour setting. It sure would be nice though if the GNCD let you set up to 5-6 pin positions for a course that would randomly rotate but then the tournament and tour creator would have to have the ability to select which of the settings to play on each day of a tournament/tour. This of course does nothing to resolve the wind waiting issue.  |
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Post by Alexander Salvator on Feb 27, 2015 12:46:12 GMT -5
I have started my preparations for the WGC Cadillac tournament on wednesday with around 10 mph wind coming from the front (on tee 1). I did not play well and ended up with a par 72. Thought that course is really tough. The next day the wind came from exactly the opposite side (from the back on the first tee). Played a -7 and -10 afterwards. Suddenly the course looked really easy to play. It is a great course. I really do like it. But it is definitely a wind-waiter's dream or a wind-waiter-haters' nightmare. I would not recommend anybody who is interested in a good result to play the course if the wind on tee 1 is coming from the front. |
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Fluid druid
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Post by Fluid druid on Mar 22, 2015 3:51:01 GMT -5
the guys here need to get a petition up and send it to hb requesting a change to wind mechanics, pretty sure most would sign it, only then will hb consider it imo. So what stopping us, let's do it!
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Post by firstblitzer on Mar 22, 2015 5:48:46 GMT -5
the guys here need to get a petition up and send it to hb requesting a change to wind mechanics, pretty sure most would sign it, only then will hb consider it imo. So what stopping us, let's do it! they are already working on it |
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Post by Oblong on Mar 22, 2015 9:50:20 GMT -5
The May update lists "wind improvements" though a bit general I believe is a result of the push we already put on HBS regarding the issues of wind in tournament play.
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Post by Elk22 on Mar 22, 2015 12:04:45 GMT -5
the guys here need to get a petition up and send it to hb requesting a change to wind mechanics, pretty sure most would sign it, only then will hb consider it imo. So what stopping us, let's do it! they are already working on it Great to hear they are working on it. I really like how they have pretty much listened to the players on most occasions as busy as they are. I would love to see a set wind that is the same for every1 in all 4 rounds. I dunno how hard that is to do, but glad once again they have listened to the players. Hope to see it sooner than later. |
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Post by clayg3 on Mar 22, 2015 12:50:27 GMT -5
is it cheating if you go to practice the tournament and notice the winds
are calm then go play the tournament.
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Post by Fluid druid on Mar 22, 2015 13:05:48 GMT -5
If they are working on it then thats great! it's badly needed.
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Post by firstblitzer on Mar 22, 2015 15:32:23 GMT -5
is it cheating if you go to practice the tournament and notice the winds are calm then go play the tournament. no, it is smart, 95% of everybody else is doing the same thing. |
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Post by edi_vedder on Mar 23, 2015 19:00:35 GMT -5
is it cheating if you go to practice the tournament and notice the winds are calm then go play the tournament. I normally do this as well when I come into that situation. But I would feel much better if I knew that anybody else is playing under the same good (or even bad) conditions as I do. |
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Post by Doyley on Mar 23, 2015 19:46:15 GMT -5
is it cheating if you go to practice the tournament and notice the winds are calm then go play the tournament. no |
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