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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 30, 2018 4:42:57 GMT -5
Another alternative would be to continue placing a premium on winning a tournament at any level. It's extremely difficult. Period. The competition on this site is no joke and to win is proof that you either deserve a shot at the next level or you truly belong at the highest level if you've reached the top tour. I refuse to accept that a win = 2 top 10s. A win is a win. If you're gonna do the whole 5 promotion merits thing, 1 win should stay an auto-promotion or at least be worth 4. I'd agree with this. Perhaps 3/4 promotion marks for a W rather than automatic promotion. In reality, if you win a tournament at any level you're almost certainly good enough to play a level higher Plus 1 for this. You shouldn't need 2.5 wins, without blobs, to get promoted. Winner only to be auto promoted for me. Ties 3 marks.... Potentially - Top 5, 2 marks. Top 10, 1 mark. Not sure how that'd pan out cumulatively. |
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Post by paulus on Aug 30, 2018 6:38:52 GMT -5
Happy to see the retirement of the Rocher - really missed the pressure of the cut  As for promotions/demotions - see the exact parameters are still being considered - the overall approach seems good tho, +1. But I do agree that a W is a special thing and should be treated as such with an automatic promotion. Also think you should probably amp up the demotions for the first month or two - to get the rebalance from the top tier sorted as quickly as possible. |
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Post by echomike2 on Aug 30, 2018 8:42:16 GMT -5
How bout anyone finishes -30 or better go to top and never come back!  |
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Post by MGiani719 on Aug 30, 2018 11:01:53 GMT -5
I'd agree with this. Perhaps 3/4 promotion marks for a W rather than automatic promotion. In reality, if you win a tournament at any level you're almost certainly good enough to play a level higher Plus 1 for this. You shouldn't need 2.5 wins, without blobs, to get promoted. Winner only to be auto promoted for me. Ties 3 marks.... Potentially -Â Top 5, 2 marks. Top 10, 1 mark. Not sure how that'd pan out cumulatively. What he said ^^ |
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Post by BMann1976 on Aug 30, 2018 11:28:35 GMT -5
I think maybe changing it from 5 to 3 would make things easier for getting promoted/demoted. Kind of like the real life Web.com where you need 3 wins to get promoted, but instead you just need 3 promotions.
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Post by twoplanetsaway on Aug 30, 2018 11:47:19 GMT -5
Somebody let Rickie Fowler know he should join TGC Tours. With this new system, he'd have 4.5 majors by now! |
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Post by Doyley on Aug 30, 2018 12:09:56 GMT -5
Lots of suggestions for faster promotion - just a reminder we're moving away from that but there will still be quarterly promotion events where big jumps can be made.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 30, 2018 12:16:44 GMT -5
So I'm assuming with slower promotions to WT that means slower demotions FROM the WT?
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Post by ErixonStone on Aug 30, 2018 12:19:19 GMT -5
So I'm assuming with slower promotions to WT that means slower demotions FROM the WT? WT is so season 4! |
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Post by Doyley on Aug 30, 2018 12:24:15 GMT -5
So I'm assuming with slower promotions to WT that means slower demotions FROM the WT? There is no more world tour. |
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Post by twoplanetsaway on Aug 30, 2018 12:26:04 GMT -5
Lots of suggestions for faster promotion - just a reminder we're moving away from that but there will still be quarterly promotion events where big jumps can be made. Don't get me wrong big chief. I like basically every other change and it's certainly well thought out all around. Just rubs me the wrong way that someone as good as me or better at the game will have to wait much longer to get their shot at the big time solely because they signed up later. |
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Post by itsmb8 on Aug 30, 2018 12:28:50 GMT -5
Lots of suggestions for faster promotion - just a reminder we're moving away from that but there will still be quarterly promotion events where big jumps can be made. Agreed. Dont think fast promotions are a good thing, because faster DEMOTIONS would be needed to balance it out. You've got some guys who would like it but a lot more would be furious about having to grind their way back because they had two bad weeks. Lets make the process longer so that if you are promoted or demoted, you actually deserve it. |
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 30, 2018 12:30:47 GMT -5
So I'm assuming with slower promotions to WT that means slower demotions FROM the WT? There is no more world tour. Ah yes... welp it will make bigger events for sure. I hope the new game makes it more competitive otherwise we'll be adding 70-100 people that never will have a shot to win. Yeah, yeah...same 'ol issues. |
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Post by itsmb8 on Aug 30, 2018 12:37:34 GMT -5
Lots of suggestions for faster promotion - just a reminder we're moving away from that but there will still be quarterly promotion events where big jumps can be made. Don't get me wrong big chief. I like basically every other change and it's certainly well thought out all around. Just rubs me the wrong way that someone as good as me or better at the game will have to wait much longer to get their shot at the big time solely because they signed up later. I disagree. Everyone starts out in Q-School to get their starting tour and is encouraged to practice a good amount beforehand. If they start in CC then they obviously aren't yet good enough for the big time tours and have to prove themselves. |
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Post by twoplanetsaway on Aug 30, 2018 13:02:03 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong big chief. I like basically every other change and it's certainly well thought out all around. Just rubs me the wrong way that someone as good as me or better at the game will have to wait much longer to get their shot at the big time solely because they signed up later. I disagree. Everyone starts out in Q-School to get their starting tour and is encouraged to practice a good amount beforehand. If they start in CC then they obviously aren't yet good enough for the big time tours and have to prove themselves. Dude. I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. CC-B out of Q-School. I was a dumpster fire with Tour clubs. But I improved dramatically and won at CC-B, Web, and Euro level to move up to World Tour in about 2 months. Under this method, I'd have won at CC-B, then had to win again, plus a top 10 just to get to CC-A, which quite frankly is at best 2-3 shots better on average. I've still only played 12 events on TGC Tours. Under the new format, I'd likely still be in Web/Euro this point despite demonstrating I'm good enough to compete at higher levels. There's also another factor that will annoy people down the road. Say you play consistently solid golf, accumulating points on tour and move up the ranks. Then some guy who hasn't played well at a lower level gets super hot at this rapid promotion tournament. How can we say we're rewarding consistent play when the biggest chance at advancement comes to down to the results of one event? |
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