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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 8:41:10 GMT -5
Shout out to shootermcgavin for getting me using the left stick. I was about to call it quits as I wasn't worthy for the Web Tour 2 weeks ago but this has reinvigorated me. I'm confident in my abilities and plan on working my way back up. Could it just be that your left stick isn't as worn as the right one if you've always played right? Has it been mentioned what club sets are allowed on what tour yet?
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Post by hippystein on Oct 10, 2017 9:14:57 GMT -5
Any chance i can put summat out there, how come ghosts are allowed in tgc events, now all the winds are meant to be the same surely playing with a ghost is helping people who use over people who dont. Personally i dont or ever will use ghosts in tgc as i play by the seat of my pants and depending on what shape my fingers will give me on any given day i adjust accordingly, if ppl want to use them fair enough but from hearing people use them to see bounces on the greens and adjust accordingly how is that SKILL. Especially with the elite league now surely this should stop to and really put the cat amongst the pidgeons. Especially when some dont read greens aswell as others but by using ghost they might see a putt that shows break go straight. Just putting it out there new start new leagues and all that!!!!! Ghostings for noobs
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Post by Giraffe72 on Oct 10, 2017 9:27:21 GMT -5
Any chance i can put summat out there, how come ghosts are allowed in tgc events, now all the winds are meant to be the same surely playing with a ghost is helping people who use over people who dont. Personally i dont or ever will use ghosts in tgc as i play by the seat of my pants and depending on what shape my fingers will give me on any given day i adjust accordingly, if ppl want to use them fair enough but from hearing people use them to see bounces on the greens and adjust accordingly how is that SKILL. Especially with the elite league now surely this should stop to and really put the cat amongst the pidgeons. Especially when some dont read greens aswell as others but by using ghost they might see a putt that shows break go straight. Just putting it out there new start new leagues and all that!!!!! Ghostings for noobs I use them (when I've got the time) for the fun of the competition, not to influence my shot selection. If I didn't understand the bounce and roll out by now I wouldn't be in the PGA. And actually it's less of an issue now with TGC2 because we're not as pinpoint accurate as we were before. And if you ban ghosts how are we going to self police things like chipping on the green? That said, if ever they did ban ghosts I would abide by that, but my tour rounds wouldn't be nearly so much fun. Turn based especially, I don't see an issue.
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Post by shootermcgavin on Oct 10, 2017 9:50:02 GMT -5
Shout out to shootermcgavin for getting me using the left stick. I was about to call it quits as I wasn't worthy for the Web Tour 2 weeks ago but this has reinvigorated me. I'm confident in my abilities and plan on working my way back up. Anytime mate.
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Post by hippystein on Oct 10, 2017 9:55:14 GMT -5
I get what ur saying. U can still use ghosts on non tour but when the game is meant to be as leveller playing field as they can make it how is ghosting the leader at the time non advantageous turn order especially i didnt play tgc but heard it was like shooting ducks in a barrell and this game is all about percentages to get as close as you can but you cant tell me if you were on the same line as someone and u watched them lip out u wouldnt adjust or you see someone knock it 15ft past for it to roll bk stiff you wouldnt try the same. It i s an advantage whichever way u look at it. It would mess with my concentration and make me second guess stuff personally but if you want to level the playing field ghosts need to go. Baaaaaa baaaaa baaaaa Sheep golf
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Post by ErixonStone on Oct 10, 2017 10:15:45 GMT -5
Ghosts are allowed simply because they cannot be policed.
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Post by SweetTeeBag on Oct 10, 2017 10:27:40 GMT -5
Shout out to shootermcgavin for getting me using the left stick. I was about to call it quits as I wasn't worthy for the Web Tour 2 weeks ago but this has reinvigorated me. I'm confident in my abilities and plan on working my way back up. Could it just be that your left stick isn't as worn as the right one if you've always played right? Has it been mentioned what club sets are allowed on what tour yet? I thought that might be the case but I got 2 new Sony DS4 controllers and the right stick for me is still whack on both with Tour/Player clubs. I tried the left stick before for a minute or 2 on the range but being right handed just seemed easier for TGC1. After about 15 minutes it became much easier than the right stick. Looking forward to next week.
No word on clubs yet from what I have seen
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Post by Lowenberger on Oct 10, 2017 10:52:03 GMT -5
Naaah, it's all good, let's play! If the top end of PGA really is that strong they'll soon move up, and the ones struggling in the Rocher Premier will come down. I'm actually quite looking forward to the new structure now I've got my head around it, just got to accept the small fact that it no longer reflects the real tours. It's a bit like having the FedEx every week up top. I'm very happy to have comfortably qualified for the PGA, now just got to make sure I stay there! And who knows, might just have a good few weeks here and there and get to have a crack at the big boys. It would be a bit like Bristol City going on a good run in the Cup, fun while it lasts but always brought crashing back to reality eventually Very happy to see some of my regular Xbox ghost rivals up there too, especially now they're fixing the leaderboards and I can go back for a few turn based 3 balls for my Tour rounds. Congo, Ronny Akesson, Taff, Martyn Clarke, Ant Murray, I will be doing my usual mixture of trying to beat you while cheering you on at the same time! Just need our Digs to get his arse in gear now and join us. Best of luck for season 4 everyone. All change, but it's still going to be good. Be the ball! Looking forward to you Euro xbox guys coming over. Seems like a lot of the PGA guys I used to chase on the leaderboards (Doubtful, JeffJeter, to name a couple) have dropped off on TGC2 or they've far exceeded my abilities (damn Yaters...).
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Post by Lowenberger on Oct 10, 2017 10:59:22 GMT -5
I get what ur saying. U can still use ghosts on non tour but when the game is meant to be as leveller playing field as they can make it how is ghosting the leader at the time non advantageous turn order especially i didnt play tgc but heard it was like shooting ducks in a barrell and this game is all about percentages to get as close as you can but you cant tell me if you were on the same line as someone and u watched them lip out u wouldnt adjust or you see someone knock it 15ft past for it to roll bk stiff you wouldnt try the same. It i s an advantage whichever way u look at it. It would mess with my concentration and make me second guess stuff personally but if you want to level the playing field ghosts need to go. Baaaaaa baaaaa baaaaa Sheep golf Ghosts add something to game realism-wise for me, makes the course feel more alive and that your actually in a tournament and competing against someone. They definitely do provide some advantages in seeing carry and roll-out, although definitely less so in TGC2 now that the variation in shots is so much higher. Also I feel like getting in a swing rhythm is much more important in TGC2 than in TGC1, and sitting around watching ghosts can disrupt this as well. That being said, I haven't been playing with ghosts on TGC2 on tour rounds since I'm paranoid it affects your tempo/swing.
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Post by Doyley on Oct 10, 2017 12:16:48 GMT -5
Saw it mentioned a few posts ago but the 200 point requirement to make it to World Tour will be flexible and moved - will try to find a sweet spot so that at least as many are going up as are going down. Just had to start high due to all the points available in the past 5 weeks.
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Post by Knock25Out on Oct 10, 2017 12:28:49 GMT -5
Looks like I snuck onto the World Tour... back to the PGA in the minimum number of events then lol should be fun to go up against most of the big guns for a little bit at least
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Post by hippystein on Oct 10, 2017 12:46:37 GMT -5
I get what ur saying. U can still use ghosts on non tour but when the game is meant to be as leveller playing field as they can make it how is ghosting the leader at the time non advantageous turn order especially i didnt play tgc but heard it was like shooting ducks in a barrell and this game is all about percentages to get as close as you can but you cant tell me if you were on the same line as someone and u watched them lip out u wouldnt adjust or you see someone knock it 15ft past for it to roll bk stiff you wouldnt try the same. It i s an advantage whichever way u look at it. It would mess with my concentration and make me second guess stuff personally but if you want to level the playing field ghosts need to go. Baaaaaa baaaaa baaaaa Sheep golf Ghosts add something to game realism-wise for me, makes the course feel more alive and that your actually in a tournament and competing against someone. They definitely do provide some advantages in seeing carry and roll-out, although definitely less so in TGC2 now that the variation in shots is so much higher. Also I feel like getting in a swing rhythm is much more important in TGC2 than in TGC1, and sitting around watching ghosts can disrupt this as well. That being said, I haven't been playing with ghosts on TGC2 on tour rounds since I'm paranoid it affects your tempo/swing. I know what your saying dude and due to everyones idiosyncrasies each round plays different all im saying is why should someone shoot low on sunday and then others use his ghost to help later in the week because i can imagine they do, i have learnt loads from playing and watching other good players on twitch when i first started but when you practice and learn the maths for the shots and have people follow your ghost it just seems like another way of mapping to me, if you see someone lay up short of the green and bounce close this will undoubtedly change your opinion on the shot whereas without seeing it you may of took it on another way and cost yourself, Like i said im just putting it out there as i play my way and dont need the ghost but heard a few people on about it being beneficial on facebook pages im on and it sat a little funny thats all. Im still fairly new to this scene and there are some things that rattle me a bit. End of rant
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Oct 10, 2017 13:48:53 GMT -5
Ghost play controversy isn't anything new. Check the archives, that discussion is more worn out than what club set we're allowed to use....well, maybe not, but you get the point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 14:08:30 GMT -5
My WGR PGA Tour for me
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Post by ErixonStone on Oct 10, 2017 14:11:14 GMT -5
Again, there's no rule because it cannot be enforced. There's nothing the staff can do to make people turn them off.
You can't make rules that you aren't willing and able to enforce.
There's no sense debating this because there is no chance anything can change.
I will say this: I am less likely to use ghosts in TGC2 for the simple reason that I have to add them manually. The default setting is OFF, and I haven't bothered to change it.
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