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Post by nevadaballin on Jan 29, 2019 13:54:55 GMT -5
On this intellectually stimulating topic of the relative truth of things, here's one of my favorites -
You know how you always hear, especially from folks as they get older, "man, that month flew by" or "wow I can't believe the year is over already!" There's a reason for that, I think. Perception is reality, which holds true for our individual perceptions of time. Consider a 20 year old and a 60 year old. For the 20 year old, 1 year is 5% of their life. For the 60 year old, that same year, which is comprised of the same number of days (let's forget leap year for this), is only 1.66% of their life. In other words, your perception of how quickly time passes accelerates with each day/month/year, as those units of time are relative to the total amount of those same units you've already experienced. Take those percentage perceptions of a year for the 20 and 60 year old and think about how those apply to just a single day. In terms of the perception of time during a day, 5% of a total 24hr day is an hour and 12 minutes, but 1.66% is less than a half of an hour (23.99min) - one of those obviously goes by more quickly than the other. So with each passing year, the perception of how "long" that year was will get shorter and shorter as a single year accounts for a smaller and smaller proportion of your total time on earth.
Sure most already think about this, it's not anything you probably haven't heard before, but it's always one I've enjoyed for some odd reason. OK, back to your bickering about grade school arithmetic  Yea i'm sure we've all been run thru the "perception is reality" thing and that is the case in a lot of situations but >>>> Perception = mental impression of what one sees. But it is not always absolute truth or fact. Example: an illusionist makes the Empire State Building disappear. But that's only what the audience perceived happened. The truth is, the Empire State Building did not disappear at all. |
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Post by nevadaballin on Jan 29, 2019 14:10:13 GMT -5
I will agree with Jimmy that 1+1 does equal 2. Example... 1 Trump term plus his second term in 2020 will equal 2 terms in office.  Americans can not be that dumb. They just can't. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 14:57:33 GMT -5
I didn't go to the ends of the internet - I actually did those proofs in my maths module as an undergraduate. It's taught in degree year 1, to teach the undergrads to be wary of exactly the thing we're talking about, namely proof = truth. It's not the case - maths is known to be incomplete and logically inconsistent... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theoremsI can't tell you what is true/not true in that link - I can only give you my view based on the things I have learned about the situation. Anyone who says they can tell you the truth is... lying  |
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Post by cliffs on Jan 29, 2019 15:39:06 GMT -5
I have had the flu for the last 5 days and whenever I come to this thread, my head hurts that much more....gawd our world is got some major screws loose. eh?
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Post by ErixonStone on Jan 29, 2019 15:45:33 GMT -5
On this intellectually stimulating topic of the relative truth of things, here's one of my favorites -
You know how you always hear, especially from folks as they get older, "man, that month flew by" or "wow I can't believe the year is over already!" There's a reason for that, I think. Perception is reality, which holds true for our individual perceptions of time. Consider a 20 year old and a 60 year old. For the 20 year old, 1 year is 5% of their life. For the 60 year old, that same year, which is comprised of the same number of days (let's forget leap year for this), is only 1.66% of their life. In other words, your perception of how quickly time passes accelerates with each day/month/year, as those units of time are relative to the total amount of those same units you've already experienced. Take those percentage perceptions of a year for the 20 and 60 year old and think about how those apply to just a single day. In terms of the perception of time during a day, 5% of a total 24hr day is an hour and 12 minutes, but 1.66% is less than a half of an hour (23.99min) - one of those obviously goes by more quickly than the other. So with each passing year, the perception of how "long" that year was will get shorter and shorter as a single year accounts for a smaller and smaller proportion of your total time on earth.
Sure most already think about this, it's not anything you probably haven't heard before, but it's always one I've enjoyed for some odd reason. OK, back to your bickering about grade school arithmetic My high school computer science teacher explained this, and it stuck with me ever since. 23 years. |
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Post by cliffs on Jan 29, 2019 20:31:05 GMT -5
My high school computer science teacher explained this, and it stuck with me ever since. 23 years. LOL, we couldn't bring the newest Texas Instruments calculators to school with us. I had to learn to use the slide rule, a mechanical analog computer |
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2019 4:13:01 GMT -5
I will agree with Jimmy that 1+1 does equal 2. Example... 1 Trump term plus his second term in 2020 will equal 2 terms in office. Considering that Clinton wants to run again, and the Dems are actively trying to remove Ocasio-Cortez - I'm certain he'll get another term. The Dems are shooting themselves in both feet. |
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Post by cliffs on Jan 30, 2019 7:05:31 GMT -5
Ocasio-Cortez can't run for president for 6 more years. The problem most seem to behaving with her is she is like DT, just say whatever it is her base wants to hear and run with it.
Welcome to the New World of American Politics. Or - NWAP
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Post by nevadaballin on Jan 30, 2019 13:45:03 GMT -5
Clinton will not run again. That window is closed.
Ocasio-Cortez is very green in the world of how politics works from the inside. She'll eventually mature or it will eat her alive.
I'm not on board with all of her ideas but I like her spunk. In a way, she is a counter-balance to the Trumpian extreme right.
After what Cigna did to me the other day, I'm ALL for putting health insurance companies on the extinct animal list. They can go rip people off with car insurance instead. But we need to figure out how to pay for universal health care first. Too bad we fight so many wars. That eats up a ton of cash.
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2019 15:04:40 GMT -5
She's not in politics to play by the rules, she's actively trying to change the rules. To suggest that she'll fall in line when she "matures" is regressive thinking, Jimmy. You know how corrupt and crony orientated the system is, she and other up and comers are the future of not just the dems, but way politics works in the US. Nothing is set in stone, things constantly evolve and I for one, hopes that Ocasio-Cortez does not "mature."
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Post by joegolferg on Jan 30, 2019 15:06:49 GMT -5
She's the future of the American left. Not afraid to stand up to the weasels who are bought and sold.
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Post by nevadaballin on Jan 30, 2019 15:24:53 GMT -5
She's not in politics to play by the rules, she's actively trying to change the rules. To suggest that she'll fall in line when she "matures" is regressive thinking, Jimmy. You know how corrupt and crony orientated the system is, she and other up and comers are the future of not just the dems, but way politics works in the US. Nothing is set in stone, things constantly evolve and I for one, hopes that Ocasio-Cortez does not "mature." And they will fall into their own levels of being corrupted. Once you become a politician, you will someday be corrupted..... or quit and go do something else. That's the nature of the beast and also one reason (among many) that good people who are incredibly qualified never seek a public office. I'd argue that the "new up and comers" are their own cronies in their own right moving forward. They will be guilty of what you accuse the existing guards to be guilty of. Remember, i see all politicians as being corrupt at different levels. I do not trust the word of any of them. Unless I see action, words are just lies from any politician. There's no way in hell I'd ordain any new member of Congress as immune to the DC diseases. But again, I like her spunk. If she can harness that energy behind things that actually will work for this country as a whole and for everyone, she'll be fine even when she eventually does become corrupted. |
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Post by nevadaballin on Jan 30, 2019 15:26:07 GMT -5
She's the future of the American left. Not afraid to stand up to the weasels who are bought and sold. Somewhere in this thread, i said the same thing of Trump. |
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Post by paulus on Jan 30, 2019 15:59:17 GMT -5
As the famous John Dalberg-Acton phrase goes.. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." My favourite book of all time, Animal Farm, is largely an expansion of that single thought into a book. And certainly I agree there is a drift towards corruption for some people when they obtain power. But whether it's actually true for everyone is open to question. The very famous "Stanford Prison experiment" used to be held up as the the scientific proof of the principle, but has been somewhat debunked in recent years... www.newscientist.com/article/mg24031990-200-inside-the-prison-experiment-that-claimed-to-show-the-roots-of-evil/ |
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Post by donkeypuncherben on Jan 31, 2019 2:11:37 GMT -5
On this intellectually stimulating topic of the relative truth of things, here's one of my favorites -
You know how you always hear, especially from folks as they get older, "man, that month flew by" or "wow I can't believe the year is over already!" There's a reason for that, I think. Perception is reality, which holds true for our individual perceptions of time. Consider a 20 year old and a 60 year old. For the 20 year old, 1 year is 5% of their life. For the 60 year old, that same year, which is comprised of the same number of days (let's forget leap year for this), is only 1.66% of their life. In other words, your perception of how quickly time passes accelerates with each day/month/year, as those units of time are relative to the total amount of those same units you've already experienced. Take those percentage perceptions of a year for the 20 and 60 year old and think about how those apply to just a single day. In terms of the perception of time during a day, 5% of a total 24hr day is an hour and 12 minutes, but 1.66% is less than a half of an hour (23.99min) - one of those obviously goes by more quickly than the other. So with each passing year, the perception of how "long" that year was will get shorter and shorter as a single year accounts for a smaller and smaller proportion of your total time on earth.
Sure most already think about this, it's not anything you probably haven't heard before, but it's always one I've enjoyed for some odd reason. OK, back to your bickering about grade school arithmetic Not sure if you have kids but I think of this often when interacting with my almost 4 month old son.
Each day he's been here is literally 1% of his life and he has changed so much in that time. At the end of each day, something banal we did to entertain him for 2 or 5 minutes could have somehow changed him or excited him or taught about the world in a way that I could not intend at the time and that could have an impact on the person he becomes. |
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