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Post by mrohde4 on Jul 19, 2017 11:36:30 GMT -5
Played a bunch on PS4 last night post-patch.
Had a swing tempo Eureka moment.
For the backswing, I've noticed when the joystick is moved back in a smooth manner, the accuracy of the shot's result is positively affected.
If my backswing was jerky, stuttered, slammed (basically anything other than silky smooth), the shot was either out-of-cone or almost out-of-come. If my backswing wasn't smooth, the downswings direction was almost irrelevant. I never knew the accuracy of the shot depended so much on the smoothness of the backswing.
Of course, the speed in which you pull back is also important, but the smoothness factor of the backswing was something that stuck out. I also found the smoothness of the downswing (the thrust forward) was not as critical to accuracy as the backswing.
Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but it was something that I just discovered and wanted to pass it along.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 17:38:07 GMT -5
I've had the same moment. Makes me focus on every shot. I know when I have stuffed it up. I can feel it
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Post by Generic_Casual on Jul 20, 2017 17:59:40 GMT -5
Meh. I swing back as fast as the game lets me. 😊😊
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Post by frank70 on Jul 21, 2017 1:20:10 GMT -5
For me there is an absolutely thin line if my swing is good .... or totally disastrous. It's a combination of the position of my thumb on the stick (cannot be a millimeter too high or too low on the stick, has to be a little to the left). Then my backswing has to go to ~6.30. It has to be smooth but not slow - one motion. And then the transition has to be perfect. As soon as the stick comes to a rest after pulling it back i have to immediately initiate the downswing - no pause. Of course this one fluid motion has to match the avatar.
If all this goes well i hit the cone very consistently. But yesterday my muscle memory must have played tricks on me. I stood on the range for about an hour and for the sake of it couldn't "find" my swing. It's really fickle. Don't know if my xbox360 controller is so sensitive. But i really have to be perfect in my motion to get a good result.
In a way it feels like golf. Complex motion the real swing is - my in-game swing as well. When i watch videos of the top players ... wow!! They hit it so consistently. Practice! Practice!.
The good thing is: In theory i have found a way to hit it well. That's good, because from reading the forums i get the impression that quite a lot of guys haven't found the perfect motion yet. The bad thing is, that i cannot reproduce it day-in-and day-out with ease. Sometimes it's there - sometimes it's gone and i simply cannot groove it back with a few practice swing.
For me this thing is really hard - harder than anything i have played the last 25 years. But it's also the reason to come back to the game everyday. Maybe some day i find the feel to just hit it like a pro!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 1:25:44 GMT -5
I have tried a slow as can be backswing and a straight up pull back as hard as I can backswing.. it all seems to depend on the transition to the downswing and having as little pause as possible without short-swinging it.
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Post by frank70 on Jul 21, 2017 1:36:47 GMT -5
I have tried a slow as can be backswing and a straight up pull back as hard as I can backswing.. it all seems to depend on the transition to the downswing and having as little pause as possible without short-swinging it. That's really the key i think. The transition between back- and downswing has to be fluid. Hard to do for me.
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Post by mrohde4 on Jul 21, 2017 15:27:05 GMT -5
Fluidity and smoothness, or however you want to describe it, seem to make all the difference. In 1 it was all about direction, now 2 it seems direction is less important. For those still struggling, be patient.
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Post by grinder12000 on Jul 25, 2017 19:38:09 GMT -5
I have found that an easy swing (not jamming the controller forward) REALLY makes things straight. Almost like real golf, the lighter I hold the controller the straighter I hit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2017 20:15:50 GMT -5
You can see if the animation is going back inside or outside the correct plane. If you don't take it back straight, it's almost impossible to hit a decent shot no matter what you do on your downswing (other than mirror imaging it perfectly) You watch his feet move to closed or open as he hits it when you get it wrong. By all means be smooth, but if you aren't also watching the animation you're missing out on feedback. Once he's got it back square, it's pretty easy to keep it within the cone, but if he's not square ones that are straight forward on the downswing will produce a slice or hook.
Everyone will have their own little hints and tips, I'm going pretty well with Tour clubs at the moment - that was the big breakthrough for me and is normally the thing that goes wrong when my swing goes bad.
If anyone can tell me how to hole short breaking putts, that'd be just great 👌🏻
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Post by mde8965 on Jul 25, 2017 21:33:47 GMT -5
Played a bunch on PS4 last night post-patch. Had a swing tempo Eureka moment. For the backswing, I've noticed when the joystick is moved back in a smooth manner, the accuracy of the shot's result is positively affected. If my backswing was jerky, stuttered, slammed (basically anything other than silky smooth), the shot was either out-of-cone or almost out-of-come. If my backswing wasn't smooth, the downswings direction was almost irrelevant. I never knew the accuracy of the shot depended so much on the smoothness of the backswing. Of course, the speed in which you pull back is also important, but the smoothness factor of the backswing was something that stuck out. I also found the smoothness of the downswing (the thrust forward) was not as critical to accuracy as the backswing. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but it was something that I just discovered and wanted to pass it along. After having given up on tour clubs for about a week. I decided to play with them in my societies tonight. I remembered this thread and what you said about a smooth backswing. And I remembered something somebody else said in another thread that said the key to hitting strainer is a very careful straight backswing and the forward swing takes care of itself. So I borrowed that logic and I was much much better tonight. And one society I shot -9 for around and -10 for another round which for me is absolutely fabulous with tour clubs. Of course just to make sure I wasn't dreaming I played around of the TST tour and shot +4. So that brought me back down to earth a little bit. But I had fun with tour clubs for a change. First time in a week or two that that happened so thank you for this thread.
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Post by mrohde4 on Jul 25, 2017 22:05:26 GMT -5
Played a bunch on PS4 last night post-patch. Had a swing tempo Eureka moment. For the backswing, I've noticed when the joystick is moved back in a smooth manner, the accuracy of the shot's result is positively affected. If my backswing was jerky, stuttered, slammed (basically anything other than silky smooth), the shot was either out-of-cone or almost out-of-come. If my backswing wasn't smooth, the downswings direction was almost irrelevant. I never knew the accuracy of the shot depended so much on the smoothness of the backswing. Of course, the speed in which you pull back is also important, but the smoothness factor of the backswing was something that stuck out. I also found the smoothness of the downswing (the thrust forward) was not as critical to accuracy as the backswing. Not sure if this has been discussed yet, but it was something that I just discovered and wanted to pass it along. After having given up on tour clubs for about a week. I decided to play with them in my societies tonight. I remembered this thread and what you said about a smooth backswing. And I remembered something somebody else said in another thread that said the key to hitting strainer is a very careful straight backswing and the forward swing takes care of itself. So I borrowed that logic and I was much much better tonight. And one society I shot -9 for around and -10 for another round which for me is absolutely fabulous with tour clubs. Of course just to make sure I wasn't dreaming I played around of the TST tour and shot +4. So that brought me back down to earth a little bit. But I had fun with tour clubs for a change. First time in a week or two that that happened so thank you for this thread. That's great to hear. I've found it tough to break old TGC 1 habits, and the new swing definitely makes you emphasize some different swing movements that used to be afterthoughts. Its such a sensitive moving target, but I believe those a-ha! moments are out there if a player is willing to look for them.
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Post by frank70 on Jul 26, 2017 1:24:10 GMT -5
A straight backswing is absolute key. If you pull it back crooked it's always impossible to make up for it.
For me fast backswing works as well as a rather slow backswing .... when it's straight. And straightness depends 100% on my thumb position on the stick. On millimeter left or right and it has consequences for my shot result. It's really hard for me to get any consistency. Maybe my 360 controller is so sensitive. I don't know, but it's such a fine line for me to hit a straight shot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 1:51:19 GMT -5
You can see if the animation is going back inside or outside the correct plane. If you don't take it back straight, it's almost impossible to hit a decent shot no matter what you do on your downswing (other than mirror imaging it perfectly) You watch his feet move to closed or open as he hits it when you get it wrong. By all means be smooth, but if you aren't also watching the animation you're missing out on feedback. Once he's got it back square, it's pretty easy to keep it within the cone, but if he's not square ones that are straight forward on the downswing will produce a slice or hook. Everyone will have their own little hints and tips, I'm going pretty well with Tour clubs at the moment - that was the big breakthrough for me and is normally the thing that goes wrong when my swing goes bad. If anyone can tell me how to hole short breaking putts, that'd be just great 👌🏻Aim 5 feet past and jam it in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 2:19:57 GMT -5
So they're all straight If you hit them hard enough? Cool 👍😉
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 2:25:24 GMT -5
So they're all straight If you hit them hard enough? Cool 👍😉 No, but if you're brave enough on flat and uphillers, you can take enough out of the break to be aggressive. Course conditions are of course a factor.
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