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Post by AFCTUJacko on Feb 23, 2017 7:36:20 GMT -5
What I'm getting at, is surely, there must be a rule against playing in the event before registering, otherwise you'll get people making a decision on whether to register on either Tour, or at all, on the basis of their performance? I agree it's poor form, and if you play, you should post.
But there's nothing to be gained from playing and not posting, regardless of your scores. You earn more WGR points from a missed cut than a "Did Not Play".
Really think people are too hung up on this kind of thing. If I miss the cut this week, it will be because I missed that 5 footer up the hill, not because of someone else's score posting habits
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Post by Dave on Feb 23, 2017 7:44:33 GMT -5
Yeah but you'll only log as a DNP if you register and then don't play or don't post. And if you don't register, what's to stop the guys in the top two tours, playing both Euro and PGA, and then picking the one they performed best in and late registering?
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Post by Generic_Casual on Feb 23, 2017 7:56:17 GMT -5
Yeah but you'll only log as a DNP if you register and then don't play or don't post. And if you don't register, what's to stop the guys in the top two tours, playing both Euro and PGA, and then picking the one they performed best in and late registering? I think you can only late register for your home tour.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 8:16:42 GMT -5
What happens if you play the event on a Saturday or Sunday, when you haven't registered? For example: Scenario 1 - Fred plays in the Euro Tour event on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He blows up on the back nine on R2 and finished 3 under for 2 rounds. He knows he wont make the cut, so he doesn't bother to register. Is this applicable? Scenario 2 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He shoots a reasonable score, but isn't sure it will make the cut or not, so he waits until Thursday night, before realising his score is good enough, so he late registers and enters. Is this applicable? Scenario 3 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He plays very poorly, and has no chance of making the cut. However, because he can play in the PGA event, he plays that on Sunday, and shoots a very good 4 rounds, so late registers in that event instead. Is this applicable? What I'm getting at, is surely, there must be a rule against playing in the event before registering, otherwise you'll get people making a decision on whether to register on either Tour, or at all, on the basis of their performance? Or are none of the above scenarios possible? They are all possible and I am sure all go on. |
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Post by ijs1543 on Feb 23, 2017 10:57:49 GMT -5
What happens if you play the event on a Saturday or Sunday, when you haven't registered? For example: Scenario 1 - Fred plays in the Euro Tour event on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He blows up on the back nine on R2 and finished 3 under for 2 rounds. He knows he wont make the cut, so he doesn't bother to register. Is this applicable? Scenario 2 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He shoots a reasonable score, but isn't sure it will make the cut or not, so he waits until Thursday night, before realising his score is good enough, so he late registers and enters. Is this applicable? Scenario 3 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He plays very poorly, and has no chance of making the cut. However, because he can play in the PGA event, he plays that on Sunday, and shoots a very good 4 rounds, so late registers in that event instead. Is this applicable? What I'm getting at, is surely, there must be a rule against playing in the event before registering, otherwise you'll get people making a decision on whether to register on either Tour, or at all, on the basis of their performance? Or are none of the above scenarios possible? They are all possible and I am sure all go on. Tell you what goes on more people missing the cut because they didnt play gd enough not because someone posted on thursday, alot of people play there comps saturday sunday but cant submit scores till monday so end up forgetting or its not the first thing on there mind monday morning and because they have till thursday to post theres no rush. im sure some dont post if they have played sh%$ but that will still affect there wgr so not a big deal, what i find worse is people waiting till thursday/saturday to play so they have all there ghosts and know exactly what they need to win or make a cut, but some seem to have more of a problem with people playing sat with no ghosts then people waiting all week for there ghosts because the person that played sat didnt submit there scores straight away. strange! |
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Post by Dave on Feb 23, 2017 11:17:32 GMT -5
They are all possible and I am sure all go on. Tell you what goes on more people missing the cut because they didnt play gd enough not because someone posted on thursday, alot of people play there comps saturday sunday but cant submit scores till monday so end up forgetting or its not the first thing on there mind monday morning and because they have till thursday to post theres no rush. im sure some dont post if they have played sh%$ but that will still affect there wgr so not a big deal, what i find worse is people waiting till thursday/saturday to play so they have all there ghosts and know exactly what they need to win or make a cut, but some seem to have more of a problem with people playing sat with no ghosts then people waiting all week for there ghosts because the person that played sat didnt submit there scores straight away. strange! I always play on Sat when the tournament opens, two reasons for that, I'm impatient as hell, and also because if I know what I need to make the cut, i'll bottle it!!  |
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Post by digsb on Feb 23, 2017 14:16:08 GMT -5
I have missed many a cut and in my opinion, I doesn't matter when you post your score....if your not good enough to make the cut ...guess what, you won't make it. I have been a victim of many a watcher posting late. I'm really not that fussed.
But when I do make it, it's even more sweeter.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Feb 23, 2017 14:37:09 GMT -5
I think it should be mandatory that Garcia and Sweeney have to play the Web tournament 1st when it 1st goes live so that EVERYONE can use their ghosts. That is what I'm lobbying for  |
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Feb 23, 2017 15:06:19 GMT -5
I know this ruffles people's feathers I understand why.... kinda. But here's the thing get better point blank period.... don't worry about the missed cuts simply play a bit better practice more. I usually post scores Monday morning as soon as I wake up this week I didn't register or play until Thursday due to the flu that doesn't make me wrong just simply didn't feel like playing until today. What someone else shoots or a cut line has zero bearing on what I try to shoot I'm ultra aggressive and try to birdie every single hole idk I'm going to preform as good as possible no matter what. I only play with daxons ghost ball at times in hopes of one day beating him in an event 😂😂😂😂 phat chance of that happening.
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Post by boffo on Feb 23, 2017 17:54:21 GMT -5
This reminds me that I still haven't posted my second round score this week. And there's not even any hopes to dash, so what am I waiting for?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 18:59:01 GMT -5
Getting rid of late registrations would help some, if you can't register 2 weeks in advance at the same time as entering in that weeks score then you can't complain.
I'm not bothered if I make a cut or not, but it is annoying when you miss the cut in 71st place and then 3 people don't enter in all 4 rounds as happened in last weeks PGA (one of those was on PS4 and had finished the tour in game).
I had suggested last year that scoreboards shouldn't update until after the round deadline has ended, so the 2nd round leaderboard wouldn't be displayed until midnight on Friday. Then no one would have a clue what the cut would be.
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Post by ErixonStone on Feb 24, 2017 9:32:00 GMT -5
Late registration is not a problem. Yeah, sure, in theory, it could be gamed, but the people not registering if they don't play well are not causing anyone to miss cuts.
Late registration is a good thing that allows people to play, even when they forget. This is an online community with fake money and pretend trophies. It's for fun.
If you're in a 17-way tie for 69th, you probably don't deserve to make the cut. If 2 people post late and you drop to T71 and miss it, it's not the late registrants' fault you missed the cut.
This is making a mountain out of a mole hill. You can't complain about the field size shrinking and then also complain about late registration which actively keeps people involved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 9:49:48 GMT -5
Late registration is not a problem. Yeah, sure, in theory, it could be gamed, but the people not registering if they don't play well are not causing anyone to miss cuts. Late registration is a good thing that allows people to play, even when they forget. This is an online community with fake money and pretend trophies. It's for fun. If you're in a 17-way tie for 69th, you probably don't deserve to make the cut. If 2 people post late and you drop to T71 and miss it, it's not the late registrants' fault you missed the cut. This is making a mountain out of a mole hill. You can't complain about the field size shrinking and then also complain about late registration which actively keeps people involved. Well, you know what Patrick? You make some good points. It's a double edged sword and yes, there are always going to be people who game the system no matter what you do. And yes, if you want to make every cut, play better. Can't argue with any of that. My gripe is with the people who blatantly go against the spirit of this game and do things you couldn't get away with in real life. Real money or not. |
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Post by ErixonStone on Feb 24, 2017 9:55:47 GMT -5
I agree that it's a jerk move, but I don't think it's as big a problem as it's being made out to be.
Late registration does much more good than posting scores late or not posting at all does harm.
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Post by unclefester75 on Feb 24, 2017 15:39:37 GMT -5
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