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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 20:22:55 GMT -5
I personally like to switch things up each week. Last week I didn't post rounds 1 and 2 until 9 Thursday night and didn't play rounds 3 and 4 until Saturday. This week I've played all four rounds, posted round 1 and haven't decided when I'll post the last three. Some weeks I post all four scores right away. Some weeks I wait until Wednesday or Thursday before even registering. When I play my rounds is constantly changing as well. Guess I'm not superstitious and I like to keep things different. Of course now that I know it annoys wagtunes Thursday night posting might become a more regular thing. Although as a fan of irony I have to say that I love that the guy who has been doing watcher reports hates watchers. I will however always post my scores if I play the rounds. What is the benefit to getting a DNF instead of a MC? Is there any or is it just a fake pride thing so you can say you've never missed a cut? That's kind of a question I've been wondering about too. Does a DNF count in any way a negative towards WGR, for example? If not, then yes, it's definitely better to DNF than MC. |
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Post by boffo on Feb 21, 2017 20:26:04 GMT -5
Im late to this game because I havent played the tour in awhile. Do some people not post to avoid a strike for that week? If so, can we give people who don't submit a score a strike or is that too severe/open up a whole new can of worms? If this is why they're doing it, then that's cheap but if they're just waiting because I don't really see the harm in it. In CC a DQ/DNF has always gained you a strike. The can of worms that opens is it can allow for sandbagging as people will register for events without playing them so they can get demoted to easier tours to try and earn an easy win. I don't think there is a rampant problem with players doing this but it'd be foolish to think no one has tried it. Web seems to be the worst place for registering and not playing your rounds as most weeks there are 20-30 registered players who are DQ'd from the event for whatever reason they choose not to post scores. |
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Post by DoubtfulObelisk on Feb 21, 2017 20:31:04 GMT -5
I personally like to switch things up each week. Last week I didn't post rounds 1 and 2 until 9 Thursday night and didn't play rounds 3 and 4 until Saturday. This week I've played all four rounds, posted round 1 and haven't decided when I'll post the last three. Some weeks I post all four scores right away. Some weeks I wait until Wednesday or Thursday before even registering. When I play my rounds is constantly changing as well. Guess I'm not superstitious and I like to keep things different. Of course now that I know it annoys wagtunes Thursday night posting might become a more regular thing. Although as a fan of irony I have to say that I love that the guy who has been doing watcher reports hates watchers. I will however always post my scores if I play the rounds. What is the benefit to getting a DNF instead of a MC? Is there any or is it just a fake pride thing so you can say you've never missed a cut? That's kind of a question I've been wondering about too. Does a DNF count in any way a negative towards WGR, for example? If not, then yes, it's definitely better to DNF than MC. I am nearly certain that, in terms of WGR, a missed cut is better than a DNF/DNP. So there's no reason (except pride, I guess) for PGA/Euro/Web players not to post their scores. |
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Post by boffo on Feb 21, 2017 20:35:15 GMT -5
I'm sure there's nothing quite like the feeling of pride you get from making the cut every time you see your scores are good enough to make the cut and decide to go ahead and post them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 21:00:22 GMT -5
Well, all I know is I've made like 6 or 7 straight cuts now (never missed a tourney in Web) and I'm damn proud of it.
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Post by jacobkessler on Feb 21, 2017 22:11:07 GMT -5
Well, all I know is I've made like 6 or 7 straight cuts now (never missed a tourney in Web) and I'm damn proud of it. I've never missed a cut either, just don't check what tour I'm on lol... In all seriousness, though, I agree with the original post, even though I'm not a witness of it down here in the depths of CC-Z... I can just imagine that if I were to qualify for a major (by some miracle), then I would put in a CRAZY amount of practice time, since I'd be on sponsors exemption. I always post as soon as the submission window opens up. If by another miracle I'm actually having a shot at playing the weekend, I would be CRUSHED if my dreams were shattered in the last hour by some trill waiting to post, and I'm sure this has happened to a lot of web players on exemption, too. Basically what I'm saying is just post your rounds. I get it, you don't want people to know what the number to beat is, but it doesn't matter that much if you're THAT good. Now, for some other watching to do... hehehe... swingcast twitch |
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Post by Generic_Casual on Feb 21, 2017 23:52:51 GMT -5
I've only not posted twice. Once during the week of my birthday when I left for Vegas early and never even finished. The other I just forgot to post my last 2 rounds because, you know, life in general. I'll continue to play super early and post way late. Don't rain on my parade. Lol.  Besides, I play earlier than Sweeney. I can't follow him around. I could care less what has or hasn't been shot. Doesn't affect how I play. I try and play as soon as the new week goes up no matter what.  Edit: Might've been a 3rd time, but I was in jail for that. |
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Post by ErixonStone on Feb 22, 2017 0:22:15 GMT -5
The deadline to post scores is Thursday at midnight Eastern time. Not posting until just before the deadline isn't against any rules, except the unwritten ones that change based on societal norms.
You don't know whether anyone is withholding scores until the last minute for the sake of "crushing someone's dream" of making a cut in an online golf tournament that pays out in pretend money. You believe that to be true based on hearsay and anecdotal evidence. You don't know when anyone played his rounds, or what his reasons are for posting scores at 11:59. You like to think you do, but you don't.
What you are claiming is akin to claims of massive voter fraud. You have no real evidence of this and you probably greatly exaggerate it's frequency. Except that voter fraud would actually be illegal if that happened.
It would be nice if the API just took care of scores (just like it would be nice if the players didn't have to manually verify their scores in real life).
The only seedy thing to do is to NOT register, play your rounds, and then not late-register and post your lousy scores. Still, that isn't really a big deal for the field.
Missing a cut does earn some small amount of WGR points, while a DQ/DNF does not. There is no benefit to taking a DQ/DNF after registering for a tournament. You still get a MC on the record and the event counts toward your WGR.
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Post by BMann1976 on Feb 22, 2017 12:15:57 GMT -5
I think the ability to late register also contributes to the last minute score submissions as well. I'd like to see the late register thing go away.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Feb 22, 2017 12:39:32 GMT -5
The play better rebuttal, while true...went stale a long long time ago. I liken the Watcher's to poaching in hunting. The mortal deer don't stand a chance
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Post by jacobkessler on Feb 22, 2017 13:17:44 GMT -5
I think the ability to late register also contributes to the last minute score submissions as well. I'd like to see the late register thing go away. The problem with this is what happens if you simply forget to register? I do agree that it needs to change though... maybe late registration can end when the score submission window opens (Sunday at midnight). |
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Post by BMann1976 on Feb 22, 2017 14:38:55 GMT -5
I think the ability to late register also contributes to the last minute score submissions as well. I'd like to see the late register thing go away. The problem with this is what happens if you simply forget to register? I do agree that it needs to change though... maybe late registration can end when the score submission window opens (Sunday at midnight). Well, if you forget, you are screwed and miss that weeks tournament. I mean if you are really into this game and the Tour, you shouldn't forget. lol |
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Post by ABU_Bear on Feb 22, 2017 14:50:52 GMT -5
The problem with this is what happens if you simply forget to register? I do agree that it needs to change though... maybe late registration can end when the score submission window opens (Sunday at midnight). Well, if you forget, you are screwed and miss that weeks tournament. I mean if you are really into this game and the Tour, you shouldn't forget. lol Pretty sure if you forget to register in real life you're SOL. TGC Tours after all is all about mimicking real life...right |
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Post by timeracer on Feb 22, 2017 18:09:25 GMT -5
But crushing people's hopes and dreams can be fun. In Forza 3 Hyundai ran a 4 week hot lap contest. You could only win in one week. I targeted week 3 as my week due to track and car combo. Watched all week as people banged away relentlessly trying to get into top 5. Knowing I had top 5 in back pocket I waited till final hours of last day to run my time. Two hours later was sitting in 3rd which was prize I had targeted. Crushed a guys hopes in the process, but he was annoying pro gamer (and a gator fan) so it was great fun.
As far as waiting on posting scores here goes. Don't see much of a point for someone to hold off posting scores to try and crush someone. In my case on Forza, I knew who I would be crushing and was cool with that. You won't here and you're just crushing hopes of some guy you don't know and probably doesn't even play on same system. At same time, there's no rules that say it's illegal, so they are within their rights to do so. Like any other competitive endeavor, players will look to push the edge of the rules looking for any advantage they can find.
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Post by Dave on Feb 23, 2017 7:14:49 GMT -5
What happens if you play the event on a Saturday or Sunday, when you haven't registered?
For example:
Scenario 1 - Fred plays in the Euro Tour event on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He blows up on the back nine on R2 and finished 3 under for 2 rounds. He knows he wont make the cut, so he doesn't bother to register. Is this applicable?
Scenario 2 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He shoots a reasonable score, but isn't sure it will make the cut or not, so he waits until Thursday night, before realising his score is good enough, so he late registers and enters. Is this applicable?
Scenario 3 - Fred plays the following week, in the Euro Tour event, on Saturday, even though he hasn't registered. He plays very poorly, and has no chance of making the cut. However, because he can play in the PGA event, he plays that on Sunday, and shoots a very good 4 rounds, so late registers in that event instead. Is this applicable?
What I'm getting at, is surely, there must be a rule against playing in the event before registering, otherwise you'll get people making a decision on whether to register on either Tour, or at all, on the basis of their performance? Or are none of the above scenarios possible?
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Besides, I play earlier than Sweeney. I can't follow him around. I could care less what has or hasn't been shot. Doesn't affect how I play. I try and play as soon as the new week goes up no matter what. 
