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Post by Brighttail on Feb 23, 2016 18:49:46 GMT -5
Glad to here it`s not just me that has all these problems i`m on a ps4, i played my first comp today ccd 1st round of -4 then the second round just got to frustrating to carry on 3 good puts ran straight over the middle of the hole, the jerky swing came back giving me 85 percent power,as for doyley hits at the middle of the hole i`d say we all aim for the middle of the hole but when it goes straight over the dam hole it`s just a joke, as for HB fixing the problem how many times have they tried all they do is cock things up even more, bring back tiger woods all is forgiven. Please note, HB isn't fixing the ball going over the hole glitch. As far as I know they haven't even admitted that it is a problem. I'm not sure whether to take it that they truly don't know or if they are not just admitting it for a while like ball squirt. They are fixing the little bug that if a ball going right to left hits the right part of the hole, the ball bugs and bounces to the right. Nothing else this point that I know of. I have brought up the ball going over the center of the hole many times with Anthony and everything he has written back has told me he either doens't believe me, feels it isn't possible period or that i'm seeing things incorrectly. You'd think with so many people saying that it is a problem, it might cause him to look into it. So if anyone can get a video of it, please do!
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Post by pc17 on Feb 24, 2016 1:23:36 GMT -5
I don't want to beef up the argument here, but there has always been a problem with the ball rolling over the middle of the hole. I remember having a 35 foot downhill put that was heading straight for the target, and the only momentum the ball had, was the fact it was downhill. I didn't even think the ball was going to make it, but it did and it rolled over the hole as if it wasn't even there.
If anyone ever remembers watching Nick Faldo on the greens, he was very aggressive with his putting stroke, especially on short puts. His idea was to hit the ball hard in order to take any break out of the equation. Well he wouldn't be able to adopt that theory in this game as he would never sink a put.
In the game, I know if I hit the ball with any strength at the hole it won't drop, so it forces me to play the break every time, and I'm sure that was HB's intentions right from the start.
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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 24, 2016 2:38:25 GMT -5
I've never had a problem with the ball going over the middle of the hole, but then tonight this happened:
Aimed 8 ft. on a flat 5 footer. Possibly a tad hard, but surely no way this should not have fallen. I've played hundreds of rounds and always hit my 4-8 foot knee-knockers on the firm side, this is the first time I've seen anything like this.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Feb 24, 2016 3:36:52 GMT -5
I've never had a problem with the ball going over the middle of the hole, but then tonight this happened: Aimed 8 ft. on a flat 5 footer. Possibly a tad hard, but surely no way this should not have fallen. I've played hundreds of rounds and always hit my 4-8 foot knee-knockers on the firm side, this is the first time I've seen anything like this. Whenever I have them go over the center of the hole the ball has no reaction to the hole at all...rolls right over it as if it isn't even there. Not over struck...not "a tad hard"...nothing. Perfect speed, dead center...rolls right over it. If I can save a replay the next time it happens I'll post it. It happened in a recent match with blueorfe and he was shocked because he'd never seen it before. I think the majority of it is GPU related and I get the odd glitch on some putts...but it's frustrating to lose strokes when you've hit the perfect stroke. I've recently tweaked the hell out of my settings in game(dropped everything to low) and am now averaging 35 to 60+ FPS..so we'll see if that counters the problem.
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Post by bigglb1950 on Feb 24, 2016 4:56:34 GMT -5
Right in the front door - then out the back !
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Post by BillySastard976 on Feb 24, 2016 5:58:22 GMT -5
That putt obviously should drop. The putt in the previous video looks just too hard hit to me.
It does happen - I had one the other day which was not hit hard but rolled right over the hole.
Fortunately it's rare,I've found anyway.
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 24, 2016 11:45:04 GMT -5
Hello and thanks for the videos. Both these videos are what i would call a stutter issue, especially the first. Both putts look like they hit the back of the hole and hopped up a bit indicating that they were struck too hard, but if you look closer it is almost like the ball disappears at one spot to reappear just beyond the hole. Now this could be a graphical issue because the ball did hop and they don't know how to realistically show that.
But these two putts are closer to what I have seen. I have hit putts where there is no hop, no skip, no bump and no deviation of any sort. The ball goes over the center of the hole as if it was rolling on normal green with no hole.
I think the first putt may have been hit too hard, the second i would argue should have dropped and you are a victim of that "vertical check" i was talking about earlier.
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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 25, 2016 0:34:35 GMT -5
Aiming 8 ft on a 5 footer shouldn't be anywhere near too hard when it's center cut. I've literally hit thousands of putts like that and never seen one hop over.
The stroke on the second putt looked very strange to me. Your pulling the putter back and holding it?
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Post by mcbogga on Feb 25, 2016 0:49:14 GMT -5
Yeah, both those look glitchy.
But the stroke in the second video looks terrible. If that is a viable way to putt HB needs to fix it ASAP.
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 25, 2016 9:49:56 GMT -5
Yeah, both those look glitchy. But the stroke in the second video looks terrible. If that is a viable way to putt HB needs to fix it ASAP. Sadly let me introduce you to the MOUSE stroke. Yes any club in the bag we can pull back and hold at different levels. When it first came out it was the only way to swing consistently was to pull it back, hold then let it rip. They tweaked the settings and allowed us to change the mouse sensitivity, so now we can have a natural swing...most times. When it comes to putting after nearly 3 months I still haven't found a setting where I can pull back and release in a single, smooth stroke that is the same as the stroke I use for every other shot. If i use the same stroke and speed of every other shot for putting, then I drill the ball twenty feet past the hole on a putt i want to go 2. So I have to either use the method you see above or change my dpi to allow me to bring the club back slower. Really sucks but now you all know why at least my scores lately have sucked. I can't get used to the new style of mouse putting... PERIOD. As for asking them to fix it.. good luck I have tried. This is a video on my youtube that shows that I can take a 3wood/5wood and draw back slowly little by little to get a 90% shot. I do it three times in a row. I showed to HB. It has never been changed but I wanted it out there to show I'm not trying to gain an advantage over another and being able to consistently lock a club like that in at 90, 93, 97% is big.
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Post by blackaces13 on Feb 25, 2016 13:21:15 GMT -5
That sounds like a huge advantage for flopping in particular. There are many times I'm trying to flop at 75%, but I know I can get anything from high 50s to high 80s, the swing is just too quick to have any kind of precise control. The difference between 60% and 85% might be 1/10 of a second.
That's also a big help when using 3 or 5 woods and wanting to take a little off. With a controller that is virtually impossible. If you think the perfect shot is to fly the ball 230 for instance there is no reliable way to swing at 95% with a 3 wood. You just have to accept that you'll be a bit long and take your medicine.
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 25, 2016 14:46:11 GMT -5
I'm not debating that and the moment I saw it I brought it up. I used to practice 95% shots with the old swing.
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Post by mcbogga on Feb 25, 2016 19:42:33 GMT -5
Yes - not an even playing field and that mouse swing implementation is utterly terrible. Can API pick up on controller/mouse and is there reason to disallow mouse swings? Different discussion but valid points. Especially if we will get some difficulty upgrades....
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Post by boomboom on Feb 25, 2016 19:55:19 GMT -5
Yes - not an even playing field and that mouse swing implementation is utterly terrible. Can API pick up on controller/mouse and is there reason to disallow mouse swings? Different discussion but valid points. Especially if we will get some difficulty upgrades.... Easy enough to do, why don't we send someone out who normally uses a controller and when they come back 18 under with a mouse we will know for sure.
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Post by Brighttail on Feb 25, 2016 20:27:41 GMT -5
Yes - not an even playing field and that mouse swing implementation is utterly terrible. Can API pick up on controller/mouse and is there reason to disallow mouse swings? Different discussion but valid points. Especially if we will get some difficulty upgrades.... Easy enough to do, why don't we send someone out who normally uses a controller and when they come back 18 under with a mouse we will know for sure. Using the mouse isn't all it is cracked up to be. I can't use a controller due to my thumb issues. While I got a decent swing down and flopping is easier for sure, putting is so hit n miss now. The motion used to swing the putter is awful. I refuse to putt by pulling back little by little and letting it fly when i reach a certain point, to me that isn't golf. A putting stroke needs to be smooth, consistent and something you should be able to feel. I have been working very hard to try and find something comfortable, smooth and realistic. If it ends up that I have to pause in a putting stroke I'll probably give up the game cause for me it would absolutely ruin it. I know Fuzion is in the same boat as me. As for "disallowing" a mouse stroke, I urge anyone who has a PC to give the mouse swing a shot. It isn't like us mouse users are winning tournaments after tournies. Maybe then you'd understand. The game is already not equal across all platforms. I'll end with this simple question. If using a mouse was so much superior, Brad, Doyley, Brionne and the other elites on PC would use it. Fact is when you talk to them all, they all believe and feel using a controller is vastly superior and more consistent.
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