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Post by edi_vedder on Jan 17, 2016 9:51:16 GMT -5
Course conditions the same on all days?
I've played the Thursday (basic) version, but I don't have time to practice any of the other rounds...
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Post by t2theb2 on Jan 17, 2016 10:20:55 GMT -5
I think all players accept the conditions nowadays however unrealistic we take what they throw at us and it's always a challenge. As mcbogga says the pins on slopes are very often a feature of tough courses that's fine it's very tough for the game but a pin should never be placed on a slope where it can pick up speed after it's passed. Ok this course isn't overly realistic with mega firm fairways and real soft greens but it does bare a slight resemblance as the greens are always slightly receptive. You keep saying realistic but you prefer firm fast, landing the ball 20 Yards with a 7 iron but still through the green. As mcbogga says you can't at pins and have to think about it we get that now but realistic it isn't I look forward to this play all week, I'm totally addicted. I will practice said course several times as well. There is nothing wrong with the course, it's a great course by a great designer. What I do not understand, and what I was getting to earlier, is most people prefer this type of course over a firm and fast course. My guess is the preference is about 20 to 1 as well. This course is going to deliver scores in the neighbourhood of -65. If it were the same course but Firm and fast the winning score would be more in the neighbourhood of -40 to -45. Firm and fast would require you to use course management skills, plot your landing areas and rollouts and test your short game. These soft greens is more for mindless, mind-numbing stand there and smash whatever the yardage is to the pin without a care or worry whatsoever. Birdie is par, and par is you just dropped a shot to the field. Which is why I believe Firm and fast is closer to reality then these soft conditions. I get it, people don't want to be challenged, they want the mindless course, the effortless play, but they don't like other peoples scores that come with it. It just makes so little sense to me. Everybody looks at it different. Depends which way you look at reality. Having 15 yards of roll out with an 8 iron week in week out is not like real life, i agree the score gets a little closer to real life but still alot lower. Then there is these course were the approach play is more realistic but unfortunatly the game mechanics let you stiff it every other shot, so the scores are unrealistic. Think its best how it is to use both conditions like we do. None are realistic anyway its a game. Unrealistic play with more realistic scores or realistic play with unrealistic scores. I for one would not want it the same week in week out. It would get boring. Noticed ian and tony are taking turns at brown nosing. What is up with u? Also sh%$ stirrer you seen my swing before the comp. Lol. More than happy with -54.
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Post by boomboom on Jan 17, 2016 10:51:03 GMT -5
I know you are right Tom, it is true as long as the game plays this way, TGCT is doing the right and honourable thing by mixing it up. Me a sh%$ disturber, never. It's no coincidence my wgr was at 27, I made the first post it went to 42, second post 47, third post 52. Live and learn I suppose. There I was after 3 rounds, sitting -40, looking at your spoiler, knowing I need a -14 to tie. What do I do, I shank it on the 2 hole. I had to shake it off, shake it off quick as sh%$ like that will effect my putting mostly. Well, it just goes to show you how each and every shot is important at this level. Problem is then you can place to much pressure on your self and it then hurts your decisions and your putting. I hope to get there one day, I look up at guys like you and wonder how you do it, but I am getting closer, so I know it's doable for me, just not this week. -53
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Post by Driver8 on Jan 17, 2016 10:58:25 GMT -5
Course conditions the same on all days? I've played the Thursday (basic) version, but I don't have time to practice any of the other rounds... Same here, certainly the first 2 days are the same.
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Post by boomboom on Jan 17, 2016 10:59:41 GMT -5
Course conditions the same on all days? I've played the Thursday (basic) version, but I don't have time to practice any of the other rounds... Only change is Sunday, greens slow down a tad to 167 and it's raining.
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Post by t2theb2 on Jan 17, 2016 11:17:35 GMT -5
I know you are right Tom, it is true as long as the game plays this way, TGCT is doing the right and honourable thing by mixing it up. Me a sh%$ disturber, never. It's no coincidence my wgr was at 27, I made the first post it went to 42, second post 47, third post 52. Live and learn I suppose. There I was after 3 rounds, sitting -40, looking at your spoiler, knowing I need a -14 to tie. What do I do, I shank it on the 2 hole. I had to shake it off, shake it off quick as sh%$ like that will effect my putting mostly. Well, it just goes to show you how each and every shot is important at this level. Problem is then you can place to much pressure on your self and it then hurts your decisions and your putting. I hope to get there one day, I look up at guys like you and wonder how you do it, but I am getting closer, so I know it's doable for me, just not this week. -53 I am no different from yourself mate, make the odd error here and there and it costs you the win. Small margins on this game. Nobodys immortal or anything, it only takes a few lipped birdie putts, a 3 putt bogey, a par on par 5 and a chip that hits the flag but stays out and you end up a good 6 shots back feeling like somebody is miles better than yourself. Not much difference between anybody in the top 20. You will be there not before long with a few others on the rise. Its good to have the competition of people coming through, shakes it up a little. As for this week think we will be 5 shots back of the leader anyway but a decent result none the less.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 11:20:54 GMT -5
I tend to do better in practice than in tourneys.
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Post by boomboom on Jan 17, 2016 11:37:16 GMT -5
To be clear in case I was not, HINT maybe I can get back to top 50 WGR, I'm not slighting TGCT, HBS, the course selection committee, the designer, the course or anyone other than the general public. My intent with my posts on this topic is to try and explain and persuade, although I'm not an author, people into embracing the firm and fast conditions. 20 to 1 is far to high to not like such a fine set of conditions. I find those conditions to be exciting and challenging, I just wish more people could see that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 11:39:40 GMT -5
To be clear in case I was not, HINT maybe I can get back to top 50 WGR, I'm not slighting TGCT, HBS, the course selection committee, the designer, the course or anyone other than the general public. My intent with my posts on this topic is to try and explain and persuade, although I'm not an author, people into embracing the firm and fast conditions. 20 to 1 is far to high to not like such a fine set of conditions. I find those conditions to be exciting and challenging, I just wish more people could see that. I agree with everything here. Saying nothing more.
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Post by edi_vedder on Jan 17, 2016 13:51:57 GMT -5
Course conditions the same on all days? I've played the Thursday (basic) version, but I don't have time to practice any of the other rounds... Only change is Sunday, greens slow down a tad to 167 and it's raining. Thank you, Sir!
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Post by edi_vedder on Jan 17, 2016 19:37:50 GMT -5
This game is so ridiculously stupid at times... Started my tournament with a super-disappointing 63 (-9; including a wet Double Bogey on the 2nd), to do what in Rd2? Hell yeah... shoot a 55 (-17) to be at -26 after two rounds! Damn it...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 19:41:34 GMT -5
This game is so ridiculously stupid at times... Started my tournament with a super-disappointing 63 (-9; including a wet Double Bogey on the 2nd), to do what in Rd2? Hell yeah... shoot a 55 (-17) to be at -26 after two rounds! Damn it... dammit you matched my 2nd round score...... Joking aside, great score buddy
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Post by daddyjules on Jan 17, 2016 21:14:23 GMT -5
This game is so ridiculously stupid at times... Started my tournament with a super-disappointing 63 (-9; including a wet Double Bogey on the 2nd), to do what in Rd2? Hell yeah... shoot a 55 (-17) to be at -26 after two rounds! Damn it... dammit you matched my 2nd round score...... Joking aside, great score buddy Might aswel jump on the 2nd round bandwagon too -17 for me lol
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Post by boomboom on Jan 18, 2016 0:02:50 GMT -5
dammit you matched my 2nd round score...... Joking aside, great score buddy Might aswel jump on the 2nd round bandwagon too -17 for me lol Hey I thought I was the only one to get the 2nd round 0 wind glitch.
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Post by Leesome191 on Jan 18, 2016 0:38:39 GMT -5
I start with a joke -2 then go -17 in next round pfft.
If anybody is willing to take me thro a round in high winds,I would gladly accecpt.
1ST round...was all a mess..approach, putting and flops.
Ashamed tbh.
If any kind soul is able to go thro a round with me..be warmly appreciated.
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