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Post by mcbogga on Jan 16, 2016 23:28:06 GMT -5
I'm playing awful but it's a good course. I much prefer realistic golf like this although I'm learning to enjoy the firm challenge, it has to be a good mix of conditions to be fair, we all have differing opinions on this This is very true. It's a great course, well designed by a master of design. However these conditions is the furthest removed from realistic the game has. Ha - let me get in on this rant! One thing I don't get now that HB has pretty much guaranteed with the tourney wind implementation close to no wind and with that trivial dial a distance play and repetitive rounds.... Why are pins still in many places set as they would be in gale force winds on a tour set up - or pretty much like your Wednesday afternoon weekly members tourney. Tour set ups IRL ARE tricked up and feature tricky pins. There is not enough of that in game.
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Post by mav78 on Jan 17, 2016 1:29:26 GMT -5
I'm playing awful but it's a good course. I much prefer realistic golf like this although I'm learning to enjoy the firm challenge, it has to be a good mix of conditions to be fair, we all have differing opinions on this This is very true. It's a great course, well designed by a master of design. However these conditions is the furthest removed from realistic the game has. I think all players accept the conditions nowadays however unrealistic we take what they throw at us and it's always a challenge. As mcbogga says the pins on slopes are very often a feature of tough courses that's fine it's very tough for the game but a pin should never be placed on a slope where it can pick up speed after it's passed. Ok this course isn't overly realistic with mega firm fairways and real soft greens but it does bare a slight resemblance as the greens are always slightly receptive. You keep saying realistic but you prefer firm fast, landing the ball 20 Yards with a 7 iron but still through the green. As mcbogga says you can't at pins and have to think about it we get that now but realistic it isn't
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Post by Leesome191 on Jan 17, 2016 4:33:37 GMT -5
Just checking to make sure I am on the correct course, but it is the Goldfinch Club?, (tgc offical course)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 5:02:36 GMT -5
Yeah firm fairways/soft greens is a bad combo in my opinion. Nothing quite like being penalised for just missing a front-pinned green by an inch by bouncing miles away. Imagine soft fairways/firm greens though? **Shudder**
Course played well in spite of this. Pity I won't make the cut though. D'oh!
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Post by boomboom on Jan 17, 2016 6:40:43 GMT -5
This is very true. It's a great course, well designed by a master of design. However these conditions is the furthest removed from realistic the game has. I think all players accept the conditions nowadays however unrealistic we take what they throw at us and it's always a challenge. As mcbogga says the pins on slopes are very often a feature of tough courses that's fine it's very tough for the game but a pin should never be placed on a slope where it can pick up speed after it's passed. Ok this course isn't overly realistic with mega firm fairways and real soft greens but it does bare a slight resemblance as the greens are always slightly receptive. You keep saying realistic but you prefer firm fast, landing the ball 20 Yards with a 7 iron but still through the green. As mcbogga says you can't at pins and have to think about it we get that now but realistic it isn't I look forward to this play all week, I'm totally addicted. I will practice said course several times as well. There is nothing wrong with the course, it's a great course by a great designer. What I do not understand, and what I was getting to earlier, is most people prefer this type of course over a firm and fast course. My guess is the preference is about 20 to 1 as well. This course is going to deliver scores in the neighbourhood of -65. If it were the same course but Firm and fast the winning score would be more in the neighbourhood of -40 to -45. Firm and fast would require you to use course management skills, plot your landing areas and rollouts and test your short game. These soft greens is more for mindless, mind-numbing stand there and smash whatever the yardage is to the pin without a care or worry whatsoever. Birdie is par, and par is you just dropped a shot to the field. Which is why I believe Firm and fast is closer to reality then these soft conditions. I get it, people don't want to be challenged, they want the mindless course, the effortless play, but they don't like other peoples scores that come with it. It just makes so little sense to me.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Jan 17, 2016 6:59:32 GMT -5
-25 through 2.
Rd 1 - 63. Really struggled both from tee to green and with the putter.
Rd 2 - 56. Talk about target golf. Think i hit 6-7 approaches to within 2 feet. Could easily have holed out 5 times. Only blip was at 9 where a 91% tee shot put in the rough with a tree in the way. Par on a 330 yard Par 4 isn't something you can get away with on setups like this.
Leaving my final 2 rounds for later in the week. Top 10 probably the best i can do now though. Winning score will be past -60
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 7:02:16 GMT -5
-25 through 2. Rd 1 - 63. Really struggled both from tee to green and with the putter. Rd 2 - 56. Talk about target golf. Think i hit 6-7 approaches to within 2 feet. Could easily have holed out 5 times. Only blip was at 9 where a 91% tee shot put in the rough with a tree in the way. Par on a 330 yard Par 4 isn't something you can get away with on setups like this. Leaving my final 2 rounds for later in the week. Top 10 probably the best i can do now though. Winning score will be past -60 R2....tell me about it! You are totally right about it being target golf. I could have easily been -19 in that round, finished -17 though
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Post by Wildrover on Jan 17, 2016 7:11:02 GMT -5
As much as I wasn't a fan of last weeks course selection, I wouldnt like to be on the course selection panel for tourneys as there is no pleasing everyone.. At the end of the day this is a game on a console, NOT REAL LIFE! people making such comparisons probably need to try and refrain from doing so.. I can barely hit a golf ball in reality yet virtually I'm under par most weeks. It's a game!look at last week,tough setup to score on for most golfers on tour,yet the winning score is still hittin nigh on 40 under.. Picking courses like last week consistently would probably turn a sizable number off tgctours..so its difficult for that balance to be found to please everyone. I agree that the winds should b on average stronger if the more receptive greens/pins are the order of the day.. Again and I include myself in this... Hard to please everyone! Impossible actually...
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Post by ijs1543 on Jan 17, 2016 8:09:21 GMT -5
As much as I wasn't a fan of last weeks course selection, I wouldnt like to be on the course selection panel for tourneys as there is no pleasing everyone.. At the end of the day this is a game on a console, NOT REAL LIFE! people making such comparisons probably need to try and refrain from doing so.. I can barely hit a golf ball in reality yet virtually I'm under par most weeks. It's a game!look at last week,tough setup to score on for most golfers on tour,yet the winning score is still hittin nigh on 40 under.. Picking courses like last week consistently would probably turn a sizable number off tgctours..so its difficult for that balance to be found to please everyone. I agree that the winds should b on average stronger if the more receptive greens/pins are the order of the day.. Again and I include myself in this... Hard to please everyone! Impossible actually... well said tony 100% agree with u mate, I personally prefer last weeks course to this weeks one but understand we cant play them courses every week, so as long as we keep getting a mixture of difficult and easy courses which we are than there doing there best to please every1, which as tony said is nearly impossible to do
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Post by ijs1543 on Jan 17, 2016 8:10:54 GMT -5
-12,-13,-11,-12... (-48) Where do I start!? This course has grown on me the more I've played it.. wouldn't put it in the great or challenging course bracket but that being said I think its an ok/decent setup..my tourney itself... Happy with my score but did leave so many out there, we all do most of the time that's golf! Putted ok for a change which is the area of my game I was most happy about in this tourney as going into the tourney my putter was quite cold!! After missing the cut last week I wanted to bounce back this week with a decent score n overall I'm content.think the winner of this tourney could finish -60 or lower but I'll say -60 to see how far I'm out Good luck to those of you yet to begin your tourneys and very well played to those of you setting the early pace! The batteries in Mr Humphreys's constructed primary device gave up right before his tourney..he had to make do with a Sony controller good tourney Tom! now I know why ur so happy
great shooting mate
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Post by Wildrover on Jan 17, 2016 8:11:50 GMT -5
As much as I wasn't a fan of last weeks course selection, I wouldnt like to be on the course selection panel for tourneys as there is no pleasing everyone.. At the end of the day this is a game on a console, NOT REAL LIFE! people making such comparisons probably need to try and refrain from doing so.. I can barely hit a golf ball in reality yet virtually I'm under par most weeks. It's a game!look at last week,tough setup to score on for most golfers on tour,yet the winning score is still hittin nigh on 40 under.. Picking courses like last week consistently would probably turn a sizable number off tgctours..so its difficult for that balance to be found to please everyone. I agree that the winds should b on average stronger if the more receptive greens/pins are the order of the day.. Again and I include myself in this... Hard to please everyone! Impossible actually... well said tony 100% agree with u mate, I personally prefer last weeks course to this weeks one but understand we cant play them courses every week, so as long as we keep getting a mixture of difficult and easy courses which we are than there doing there best to please every1, which as tony said is nearly impossible to do
Cheque in the post Sweeney! have a sit down!! U agree with me!!?
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Post by ijs1543 on Jan 17, 2016 8:20:02 GMT -5
Had to get it out the way as 100% off my shots are left of center, even if i swing it diagonal to the right. Hoping to grind out a top 25. Pleasantly supprised. -11, -16, -14, -13 -54 total. Should be top 10 so i will take that this week. Hopefully get this swing sorted for next week. lmao, get this swing sorted for next week and shoots -54
u cant buy a new pad every time u make a par mate
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2016 8:33:40 GMT -5
Personally I enjoy the toughest tests that are playable.
As firm as a course can go that holds greens As fast as the greens speeds can be that allow you to leave within 2 feet of the hole with a good weighted putt. Want a really undulating green? Then slow may be the fastest speed you go.
So that means if a course can handle it go for firm/fast. If it can't, like last weeks, go for medium. If it can't even hold shots on medium(highly doubtful) go for soft. Too soft is more playable than too firm. It is however more flattering to the average performer.
However, I spat my dummy out and rage quit last week and I apologise.
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Post by ijs1543 on Jan 17, 2016 8:37:54 GMT -5
Personally I enjoy the toughest tests that are playable. As firm as a course can go that holds greens As fast as the greens speeds can be that allow you to leave within 2 feet of the hole with a good weighted putt. Want a really undulating green? Then slow may be the fastest speed you go. So that means if a course can handle it go for firm/fast. If it can't, like last weeks, go for medium. If it can't even hold shots on medium(highly doubtful) go for soft. Too soft is more playable than too firm. It is however more flattering to the average performer. However, I spat my dummy out and rage quit last week and I apologise. no need to apologise mate we all spit our dummy out time to time
especially tom and tony there dummys are always on the floor
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Post by Wildrover on Jan 17, 2016 9:02:09 GMT -5
Personally I enjoy the toughest tests that are playable. As firm as a course can go that holds greens As fast as the greens speeds can be that allow you to leave within 2 feet of the hole with a good weighted putt. Want a really undulating green? Then slow may be the fastest speed you go. So that means if a course can handle it go for firm/fast. If it can't, like last weeks, go for medium. If it can't even hold shots on medium(highly doubtful) go for soft. Too soft is more playable than too firm. It is however more flattering to the average performer. However, I spat my dummy out and rage quit last week and I apologise. no need to apologise mate we all spit our dummy out time to time
especially tom and tony there dummys are always on the floor
Difference being I haven't shot -18 in a round only to moan what could have being!
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