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Post by Crazycanuck1985 on Dec 10, 2015 17:35:19 GMT -5
Hi! I'm Canuck. Some of you may know me, but for those who don't, I'm the guy that designed the Denali Club that many of you are currently struggling through and hating. First off.....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Seriously though, this course was built to play tough. I was a bit surprised to see it picked for a Challenge Circuit event, but since it is such a big event that means alot, I can see why. I know some of you are frustrated and saying my course is "horrible". That's fine. My feelings aren't hurt. Consider this though, if you are putting balls off the green frequently, there is no way you should be doing this if you are using the yellow aiming marker correctly. Remember, that thing can be moved forwards and backwards as well.
Also, I take pride in my designs. They are built with care and play tested extensively. I don't expect everyone to like my designs all the time, but one thing to remember about my courses...and I do this on purpose: My courses are meant to be practiced before you take them on in a tournament. There are LOTS of tough putts out there....IF you land your ball in the wrong spot. Study the greens and you will find at least one side of the hole to be much easier to putt from. Sometimes its above or below the hole. Sometimes attacking my pins is the WORST thing you can do as it will roll out and leave a very tough putt... or you will get the dreaded slow roll off the green that would make any person want to throw their controller in a fit of rage.
Keep plugging away. The week is almost over. Then you won't have to play this course again. I also am fine with asking my designs not be used for the CC circuit anymore if the greens are too difficult.
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Post by corkyboy on Dec 10, 2015 18:08:20 GMT -5
Hi Canuck I am going to reply to this as i saw some whingeing about your course i played this on an exemption this week so i don't think i will get a new card no worries on that count and the reason for this i have played a few of your courses and cursed you like hell, but i have to say i think i am starting to get where you are coming from so here goes, yes it's tough three practice rounds this week best i scored was +4 so i said sod it go for it well first round par well happy with that, second two under super happy, third one under, fourth i had to take a days rest after the first two holes as i bogied them, finish four under for the last round could have been seven and why, green placement as you say place the ball in the right place and you have a birdie if not you should par. I loved the course sheer delight to look at thought i was in Alaska whilst sitting in rainy Ireland. I totally enjoyed your course and there have been courses on the challenge circuit that i would never play again as they were so poorly executed.
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Post by TimB on Dec 10, 2015 18:09:27 GMT -5
Personally I liked everything about the course as well it was a great course to look at, colors, lighting etc.
Sure it was tough, I don't think the toughest I've seen while being on tour here since January. To have be "not tough" would be an insult to the name "Q-School".
And I'm not praising it because I did good. I finished -4 overall and currently sitting 47'th on the leader board and I stand a very real chance of earning a strike and possible demotion.
Greens really were not my nemesis in regards to putting, sure I blew a few past the hole, but what cost me was over confidence. In practice (yes I practice the coming weeks course multiple times throughout a week, 10 or more plays at times), I digress, in practice I shot a -12 and -10 on a couple setups. I went into the tournament over confident and went pin hunting and thats where the greens cost me, no one to blame but myself for my poor showing.
I wish people were more diplomatic when showing displeasure for a course or how they played it though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 18:18:16 GMT -5
YOU FREAKING SUCK CANUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by yaters on Dec 10, 2015 18:26:42 GMT -5
I liked the course Canuck. I play on the web tour and decided to try it out because I remember seeing a preview of this one in the forum. I understand your rationale for everything. I wish we had more courses like this on the web. Seemed like it was a shock on the CC level (which may have been the intent given Q School status and all). I certainly fell prey to a couple of approaches that I thought would be good and then caught the ridge that I was trying to avoid. I know my opinion here is not valid since this is not my tour. Your task now is to create another 12-15 of these for web please Side note - I did watch about 10 minutes of Irving playing this. It was good he wasn't broadcasting sound based on what I saw....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 18:49:00 GMT -5
Hi! I'm Canuck. Some of you may know me, but for those who don't, I'm the guy that designed the Denali Club that many of you are currently struggling through and hating. First off.....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Seriously though, this course was built to play tough. I was a bit surprised to see it picked for a Challenge Circuit event, but since it is such a big event that means alot, I can see why. I know some of you are frustrated and saying my course is "horrible". That's fine. My feelings aren't hurt. Consider this though, if you are putting balls off the green frequently, there is no way you should be doing this if you are using the yellow aiming marker correctly. Remember, that thing can be moved forwards and backwards as well. Also, I take pride in my designs. They are built with care and play tested extensively. I don't expect everyone to like my designs all the time, but one thing to remember about my courses...and I do this on purpose: My courses are meant to be practiced before you take them on in a tournament. There are LOTS of tough putts out there....IF you land your ball in the wrong spot. Study the greens and you will find at least one side of the hole to be much easier to putt from. Sometimes its above or below the hole. Sometimes attacking my pins is the WORST thing you can do as it will roll out and leave a very tough putt... or you will get the dreaded slow roll off the green that would make any person want to throw their controller in a fit of rage. Keep plugging away. The week is almost over. Then you won't have to play this course again. I also am fine with asking my designs not be used for the CC circuit anymore if the greens are too difficult. I could have read this and it would make no difference I play on CC-A and I hunt pins even when the designer tells me not to I did ok but I liked the course though as I always do with your courses Andre
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Post by Hailthetale on Dec 10, 2015 19:51:53 GMT -5
its a good course don't get me wrong I even got my first double eagle on your course in my second round before i totally ragged quit. i just wasn't having fun anymore especially after the first round winds. this course belongs on the pga or euro tours. Its a lovely course just the greens and their pin locations are pushing it a little bit but that is just a Canuck course for you. I'm just disappointed i was looking forward to this week to move up but i was unlucky. Canuck it is a great course but know offence i just really hope i don't see it again in the lower tours, and i do get you didn't put it on the cc tours. it was just discouraging when you 6 yards away and your ball catches the hill and rolls 20 ft down the hill or your tee shot land close to the flag and rolls 15 yards off the green. Canuck its a great course and all i do give it a 8/10 but it just wasn't the right course for this event
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Post by drivert on Dec 10, 2015 20:39:18 GMT -5
I loved it I like the harder courses
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Post by ABU_Bear on Dec 11, 2015 0:06:37 GMT -5
Hi! I'm Canuck. Some of you may know me, but for those who don't, I'm the guy that designed the Denali Club that many of you are currently struggling through and hating. First off.....MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Seriously though, this course was built to play tough. I was a bit surprised to see it picked for a Challenge Circuit event, but since it is such a big event that means alot, I can see why. I know some of you are frustrated and saying my course is "horrible". That's fine. My feelings aren't hurt. Consider this though, if you are putting balls off the green frequently, there is no way you should be doing this if you are using the yellow aiming marker correctly. Remember, that thing can be moved forwards and backwards as well. Also, I take pride in my designs. They are built with care and play tested extensively. I don't expect everyone to like my designs all the time, but one thing to remember about my courses...and I do this on purpose: My courses are meant to be practiced before you take them on in a tournament. There are LOTS of tough putts out there....IF you land your ball in the wrong spot. Study the greens and you will find at least one side of the hole to be much easier to putt from. Sometimes its above or below the hole. Sometimes attacking my pins is the WORST thing you can do as it will roll out and leave a very tough putt... or you will get the dreaded slow roll off the green that would make any person want to throw their controller in a fit of rage. Keep plugging away. The week is almost over. Then you won't have to play this course again. I also am fine with asking my designs not be used for the CC circuit anymore if the greens are too difficult. It kicked my ass in the QSchool Tournament but Denali is by far the nicest course I have played in this game. On the top of my favs list.
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Post by pablo on Dec 11, 2015 0:50:13 GMT -5
I'm not going to say a word about Denali. We all know how Canuck plays.
But there is something that I don't like. As a CC player I can't say that I'm good at playing TGC, because I am not, but hey, week after week we hear people saying "C'mon, -45 for the tourney? That's not possible", then, we have one week in a difficult course "C'mon, this is a very difficult course, we can't play it..." A couple of weeks ago the designer had to republish four versions of his course because it was very difficult. This week some people seem to equal tough to bad.
If I play better than a couple of months ago it's not only because I play tournaments in easy courses. It's because I play all kind of courses. In real life some tourneys are easier than others, why should it be any different here? I love the challenges, and as I said before, this is called Challenge circuit, not flat-receptive greens circuit, so a bit of suffering from time to time is ok for me. Not every week, for sure, but why not a bit of hard rock?
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Post by Roberto Busatto on Dec 11, 2015 2:05:08 GMT -5
Hi Andre... first of all I would like to thank you for the time and effort making such beautiful courses. It's tough, that's true, but it's very enjoyable. This course opened my mind to the idea or having some uncertainties when you hit the green and I'm really considering moving my (poor) effort to the TST as I think it's much more rewarding...maybe I will not make cuts but I will raise the bar with the magic of this game (golf) without beeing able to make for every hole the maths 144 + 1yd - 7yds + 6 clicks left + 1 square loft up = birdie in order to stay 32 under par on every tourney... So far so good yesterday evening I was studying the Crusades with my daughter... after killing one of the Emperors I took 10 minutes and tryed the first 2 holes of the Big Kahuna TST W9 Tour after watching a couple of videos with tips... 1st hole was a par, 2nd hole a (stupid) bogey... I was happier than scoring -10 @ Vallentuna with all the aids on !!!
Have a great weekend Roberto
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 5:08:56 GMT -5
I don't understand all the complaints about this course, I am a poor player (currently up on CC-E on a sponsors exemption)and I have so far shot 2 rounds of -1 and one of + 1. I have played many courses on the CC that caused me more problems than this one.
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Post by stokie1947 on Dec 11, 2015 7:02:38 GMT -5
nothing wrong with the course I am enjoying the challenge its what golf should be if people want easier courses and conditions buy that other golf game where they are shooting scores of -39 -36 etc etc fecking stupid
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 7:09:33 GMT -5
Hey Canuck. Wagtunes from the forum here. Loved your course! Shot +1 but that was all on me. Played stupid at times and it cost me. Only holes that really did me in were on the back 9, mainly 10, 11 an 12. 11 was the worst but I eventually conquered it for par on the last round. All in all I'm pleased with how I did. Course was tough but gorgeous to look at.
You're my hero and I wanna design like you someday.
So keep on making these great courses and I'll keep on playing them.
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Post by TimB on Dec 11, 2015 7:18:10 GMT -5
pabloI was thinking this same thing after I posted last night. Currently after rounds 3 scores have posted I'm at -2 and 54'th place. I can live with that. I hate though shooting a good tournament of lets say -15 - -20 and the best I can hope for is not getting a strike. I hate that, I'll take the harder courses any day, then a top 30 finish is an accomplishment. I did -8 on Magnolia National Sunday Pins, about 2 months ago, and felt like that was an accomplishment for me, if anyone has played that course they will know I mean. That is the course for me that taught me how to manage super fast greens. Next weeks course, I'm consistently doing -10 to -13 on all setups, in theory I may shoot -40 (I won't because I will blow it all to hell lol) and still will be mid bottom of the leaderboard. -60+ is going to be the winning scores here. Early morning natterings below: I've said it before though, shoot -40, automatic promotion to the tier above you all the way up to CC-A. Then create a WEB B tier, and ease promotions requirements a bit to get it filled. Get the low scorers out of the lower tiers. And use some tougher courses for the CC tiers. Keep the -40 scores down a bit. I guess though you do need to throw in some easy courses for those who are not great or struggling for whatever reasons at the game so they can have some fun too otherwise they will just give up shooting every tournament at +10 or worse. Which will hurt a great game and great site. Crazy, keep up the great work in designing and I will look forward to seeing another hair ripper on the CC tour in the future. On a side note, I wish there were more designers designing for the particular tiers. It's hard for the committees to find courses for each tier I imagine, would be nice if there were say 5 great designers who design courses specifically for the CC tiers, make challenging yet manageable courses /end early morning natterings/ I'm not going to say a word about Denali. We all know how Canuck plays. week after week we hear people saying "C'mon, -45 for the tourney? That's not possible", then, we have one week in a difficult course "C'mon, this is a very difficult course, we can't play it..." A couple of weeks ago the designer had to republish four versions of his course because it was very difficult. This week some people seem to equal tough to bad.
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