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Post by Brighttail on Dec 1, 2015 15:09:26 GMT -5
So on the PGA side you have Red Swan. It is a very unique course with some tight driving areas and it seems like each green is surrounded by trees. The greens are highly sloped so putting and placing the ball on the proper side of the hole will be at a premium. I've only played the final round, but my concern is there are some trees around the greens that very well could come into play on an approach shot. While I have no problem with trees surrounding the greens, I would not like it if I have to play a super cut or deal with hitting an over hanging tree to get close to the hole. Still it is a beautiful course and I definitely could use the practice with my putter. On the European side we have Doolough. A pretty straight forward links course that incorporates one aspect of this game I'm the weakest at, hard/firm greens. Plenty of room to work with on the pins that I played, but I have a feeling that the top tier folks are going to be using a LOT of highly lofted 3 and 4 irons. Being hard/firm, the greens also break a LOT more than normal greens so it is very challenging at times, especially with those down hill putts. The narrow fairways could be a problem if the winds get going (as is most likely with links courses). I shot better on Red Swan but had a better time on Doolough. Both courses have things that I like and dislike. Red Swan is more my style but i know I need practice on Links courses. Oh what to do.....
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Post by dorksirjur on Dec 1, 2015 17:56:43 GMT -5
Come over to the Euro!
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Post by edi_vedder on Dec 1, 2015 20:37:27 GMT -5
While both courses are fine, I'll stay on the EUR-Tour in W09 for the rather big purse.
After that (in W10) I'll most likely make my first crossover to the PGA this season.
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Post by coruler2 on Dec 1, 2015 20:40:57 GMT -5
I'll stay on PGA so I can come in 12th again
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Post by mcbogga on Dec 2, 2015 4:53:58 GMT -5
TST of course. Don't even need to choose.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 6:54:30 GMT -5
I don't understand the benefits of crossing over. You can only play one end of season tournament correct? So if you crossover you will be losing ground on your competitors on your tour.
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Post by mellowswe on Dec 2, 2015 8:28:13 GMT -5
I shot better on Red Swan but had a better time on Doolough. You said it yourself...isn't that why we're all doing this?
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Post by boomboom on Dec 2, 2015 9:07:58 GMT -5
There is nothing wrong with Red Swan, however I have not failed to hit some trees yet, and invisible ones to boot, but that does enhance the difficulty of the course.
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Post by disturbed932 on Dec 2, 2015 11:05:27 GMT -5
Red swan forces you to play to the correct size of the fairway. Just being in the fairway may not give you the ideal angle to the green
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 12:49:41 GMT -5
I have a PGA card, so I play PGA events. I want to finish as high as I can during the FedEx playoffs, so I play where I can accumulate FedEx points.
But that is just how I go about my schedule.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2015 12:54:07 GMT -5
I have a PGA card, so I play PGA events. I want to finish as high as I can during the FedEx playoffs, so I play where I can accumulate FedEx points. But that is just how I go about my schedule. I just think i will have a bigger anger problem if i play on the PGA next week so that is one of the reasons why i switched.
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Post by Brighttail on Dec 2, 2015 13:29:17 GMT -5
I plan to play a bit of both tours this year. I would love to have the opportunity of playing in the end of the year tournies which I would have qualified for last year, but we weren't able to due to coding issues.
To be honest tho, my decision often comes down to which course I simply like better or what format. I usually take multi-pins over single pin for example.
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Post by Brighttail on Dec 2, 2015 14:54:36 GMT -5
Playing Red Swan a bit more and I'm coming to appreciate it more and more. As stated you really need to understand the course for course management. Hitting a driver as far as you can in the fairway isn't always the best because of trees. Sometimes you need to play shorter. Even then other times trees are just slightly in the way and approach shots need to be worked right or left.
Every hole is birdieable but I have hit the water at least a half dozen times on silly shots. I think I'm going to stick on the PGA. Nothing against the other course, but other than some narrow fairways and firm greens, not a lot to it.
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Post by coruler2 on Dec 2, 2015 16:46:21 GMT -5
It amazing how after playing over 100 courses across the tours, this is the first real discussion about trees and adjusting your play due to them- and just hitting the fairway isn't enough- have to be in good positions on the fairway. Love it. More courses need to be like this. Trees should be more than eye candy and shade- they should be a real obstacle and it's amazing how hardly any designer uses trees strategically.
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Post by dorksirjur on Dec 2, 2015 16:50:18 GMT -5
I didn't really see the struggle with trees on Red Swan, I'm sure I played it earlier.
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