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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 17:42:53 GMT -5
I don't own the TGC game for XB1 ... so I cannot tell you how it plays on that console. I can tell you the game plays differently on PS4 Vs. PC... using the same DS4 controller on both ... Just as a hint, you really need to play most greens short in front of the pin ... As a lot of green slope tricks I used on the last round, placingy pins where the slope runs Front to back ... making pin-seeking on the green more of a challenge. And again, on purpose. As it is a final round of a 4 day simulated event. Just my .02 before it gets into a swing debate, I played about 8-10 weeks of tournaments on here to end season one on PC using DS4. All my other weeks (except for one where I played on XB1) before and after I played on PC were on PS4 using the same DS4. The swing is pretty much the same in my opinion. As for the 4th round, I just played it in the new 4.01 setup and while tough, taking advantage of the shorter par 4's and the par 5's is where the scoring is at. Some of the pins are tough to get at, but some have plenty of green to roll out to the pin, so plan to roll your shots out by landing short.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 17:59:06 GMT -5
Ok,
so, I just updated all four courses to utilize the new firmness settings.
None of the course distances, firmness or pin locations has changed, with the exception of the 4.01 course, now known as [pin D] course, where the fairway firmness and green firmness has been reduced (softened), However, it still has its teeth, just filed down a tad.
If the Course director wishes to use these updated courses, its up to them. Reality is nothing has really changed except the firmness on the final day of the tourney course.
Courses are as follows: New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin A] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin B] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin C] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin D]
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Post by davenewell on Nov 19, 2015 18:32:59 GMT -5
Actually I'm somewhat disappointed about any plans to make this easier. I've not played it yet but last week I finished T17th in CC-B with -44. I'd love to see an -18 or something to that effect win in the challenge level. My favorite golf is a real battle to par at The Open or the US Open. the novelty of playing darts wears off after a while!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 19:09:52 GMT -5
Actually I'm somewhat disappointed about any plans to make this easier. I've not played it yet but last week I finished T17th in CC-B with -44. I'd love to see an -18 or something to that effect win in the challenge level. My favorite golf is a real battle to par at The Open or the US Open. the novelty of playing darts wears off after a while! I am not proclaiming anything that will or will not change, but two weeks ago the designer of the PGA event wanted to change one of the rounds' pin locations a couple of days before the event, but it was nixed because it was too close to the deadline. Again, I don't know what will or will not happen here, just food for thought. Keep in mind the original setups he posted on page one of this thread only had one setup that was outright tough. People had been complaining about the D level scoring -40s or so and -50s in the upper tiers. Now a course comes along with differing setups, only one of which is quite difficult across the board, and now people don't like that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 19:51:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I doubt it will change, I just gave the powers that be, the opportunity.
And the first 3 courses didn't change at all.
I just didn't want to mop up anymore tears ... lol
Oops I meant act intolerant to any suggested constructive criticism.
I know I have a tendency to be all high and mighty, and aloof.
LOL
But I never did play well with others, I'm not a PC type guy
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 19, 2015 23:37:57 GMT -5
Just put up a -21 total for 4 rounds on a practice tournament.... if I can get in that area come the live tournament I'll be happy. Actually the 4.01 setup once you play it and get use to the speeds is playable...tough as hell..but playable. My concern was more the lower tier players struggling. Best round I've had on the 4.01 is the PC course record of -9
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Post by pablo on Nov 20, 2015 0:40:23 GMT -5
I have played a lot of the Bubba courses. They all are hard, but playable. In fact I think they all are great. You may like one better than other, for sure, but they all are great works. You just have to shape your shots. As a player I think you must adapt your game to the course, not viceversa, you can't dart-shot every pin? ok, seek for the pin with another kind of shot, if we don't have that skill, it's not a fault of the course, for sure. Pros don't play the same way The Open or the Masters, so why should we do so?
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Post by Doyley on Nov 20, 2015 12:52:55 GMT -5
Seeing as how the first 3 courses don't change and the 4th moves away from a firm/fast setting (bit too much for a Challenge Circuit event) we'll use the new versions for the tour.
New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin A] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin B] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin C] New St. Lorin Golf Club, Baumgarten Is. Hawaii [pin D]
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Post by pablo on Nov 20, 2015 14:11:55 GMT -5
I understand your point Doyley, but I think that, from time to time, the challenge circuit needs right what its name says, a bit of a challenge. And forcing players to take a different approach to the course is a great challenge. In the most respectfully way, I don't share your decision.
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Post by hmammoth on Nov 20, 2015 14:26:35 GMT -5
I agree with Pablo here, a pity it has been changed, I was looking forward to the extra challenge. It is understandable considering the different flights but I do hope we have a some courses to really test us in the future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 17:24:39 GMT -5
It hasn't changed that much. Just the firmness settings ... the pin placement is still the same, the speed is still the same, hopefully it will be just a tad softer on the green, but, with a softer fairway, you won't get the bounce/distance ... so, it may play longer than it is (especially with a windy day) ...
LOL
Like I said, it had it's teeth filed down a bit, it still has plenty of bite left in it ...
Softer greens and fairways doesn't always mean .... easier. You always have a trade off ...
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 20, 2015 17:50:11 GMT -5
It hasn't changed that much. Just the firmness settings ... the pin placement is still the same, the speed is still the same, hopefully it will be just a tad softer on the green, but, with a softer fairway, you won't get the bounce/distance ... so, it may play longer than it is (especially with a windy day) ... LOL Like I said, it had it's teeth filed down a bit, it still has plenty of bite left in it ... Softer greens and fairways doesn't always mean .... easier. You always have a trade off ... Just played the D pin..shot a 7 under 64 first time through it...only thing I noticed was more bite on the green..other than that...still a tough trek. Played in 10-12mph winds.I actually had my best down to a 62 on the 4.01 set up. I'm actually really learning the "sweet spots" on this course
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 18:51:31 GMT -5
It hasn't changed that much. Just the firmness settings ... the pin placement is still the same, the speed is still the same, hopefully it will be just a tad softer on the green, but, with a softer fairway, you won't get the bounce/distance ... so, it may play longer than it is (especially with a windy day) ... LOL Like I said, it had it's teeth filed down a bit, it still has plenty of bite left in it ... Softer greens and fairways doesn't always mean .... easier. You always have a trade off ... Just played the D pin..shot a 7 under 64 first time through it...only thing I noticed was more bite on the green..other than that...still a tough trek. Played in 10-12mph winds.I actually had my best down to a 62 on the 4.01 set up. I'm actually really learning the "sweet spots" on this course That's all you really needed to do with the other one, but, only things changed was a slight softening of the green and fairway. the only firmness settings we had in the past were: soft, medium and hard for both fairway and greens Now: Fairway soft, Greens soft Fairway soft, Greens med Fairway soft, Greens Hard Fairway med, Greens soft Fairway med, Greens med Fairway med, Greens Hard Fairway hard, Greens soft Fairway hard, Greens med Fairway Hard, Greens Hard 4.01 was closer to hard/hard, pin D is now medium/medium .... personally, I liked it the other way more. But, I should have made it soft/medium ... then you would lose distance off the tee to make it play longer still ... but hopefully allow keeping it on the green, but, with a longer iron to the green, that may have still been tough. Without more linear control of the firmness sliders, firmness options are very limited.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 21, 2015 0:38:39 GMT -5
Just played the D pin..shot a 7 under 64 first time through it...only thing I noticed was more bite on the green..other than that...still a tough trek. Played in 10-12mph winds.I actually had my best down to a 62 on the 4.01 set up. I'm actually really learning the "sweet spots" on this course That's all you really needed to do with the other one, but, only things changed was a slight softening of the green and fairway. the only firmness settings we had in the past were: soft, medium and hard for both fairway and greens Now: Fairway soft, Greens soft Fairway soft, Greens med Fairway soft, Greens Hard Fairway med, Greens soft Fairway med, Greens med Fairway med, Greens Hard Fairway hard, Greens soft Fairway hard, Greens med Fairway Hard, Greens Hard 4.01 was closer to hard/hard, pin D is now medium/medium .... personally, I liked it the other way more. But, I should have made it soft/medium ... then you would lose distance off the tee to make it play longer still ... but hopefully allow keeping it on the green, but, with a longer iron to the green, that may have still been tough. Without more linear control of the firmness sliders, firmness options are very limited. If the winds get up...the switched setting won't matter too much. That 600 yarder plays more like a par 6 into the wind. This is still the toughest course CC has played thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 1:15:46 GMT -5
It's all down hill!
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