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Post by csabo17 on Nov 12, 2015 11:40:26 GMT -5
I hope i get to practice valgrind as much as i did vallentuna. The courses are total opposite i think. Almost every shot on valgrind needs to be thought about and well placed. I hope the winds are low for the tourney. Its a tough course imo.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 13, 2015 4:40:03 GMT -5
I don't wanna accuse anyone...but the leader's scores don't match with their season averages. Something looks off. If they hit it..great for them...but 3 in a row in the 50's when they weren't even close before?...Things that make you go hmmmm. They're leading in every tier...good news is we won't have to compete against them anymore
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Nov 13, 2015 5:22:11 GMT -5
I don't wanna accuse anyone...but the leader's scores don't match with their season averages. Something looks off. If they hit it..great for them...but 3 in a row in the 50's when they weren't even close before?...Things that make you go hmmmm. They're leading in every tier...good news is we won't have to compete against them anymore People just hit a purple patch and go on decent run. I was expecting that my -41 in my exemption week in CC - C would give me a chance of gaining a C Card. It doesn't look as though that's going to be good enough. Yeah it sucks but it is what is it. Some players will play courses better and on the same ones players will struggle. It's tough to move up. Players of a similar standard to myself have taken the Q school and been thrown straight into A and B whilst i'm working hard to get there. There are those that don't perform so well in q school and adapt to the game very quickly and end up in the lower tiers shooting ridiculous scores. One thing for certain, it works itself out and the more CONSISTENT players will end up where they want to be as long as they are prepared to put in the time. Consistency is key. Valgrind looks tougher and i doubt that there will be the same scores.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 13, 2015 5:27:06 GMT -5
I don't wanna accuse anyone...but the leader's scores don't match with their season averages. Something looks off. If they hit it..great for them...but 3 in a row in the 50's when they weren't even close before?...Things that make you go hmmmm. They're leading in every tier...good news is we won't have to compete against them anymore People just hit a purple patch and go on decent run. I was expecting that my -41 in my exemption week in CC - C would give me a chance of gaining a C Card. It doesn't look as though that's going to be good enough. Yeah it sucks but it is what is it. Some players will play courses better and on the same ones players will struggle. It's tough to move up. Players of a similar standard to myself have taken the Q school and been thrown straight into A and B whilst i'm working hard to get there. There are those that don't perform so well in q school and adapt to the game very quickly and end up in the lower tiers shooting ridiculous scores. One thing for certain, it works itself out and the more CONSISTENT players will end up where they want to be as long as they are prepared to put in the time. Consistency is key. Valgrind looks tougher and i doubt that there will be the same scores. Valgrind is a bit tougher..but I'm still predicting -35 to -40 wins it in CC-D. It's disheartening (not just for me) when you hover around -30 for a tournament at this level and are still in danger of a demotion strike
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Post by BIELSALUFC on Nov 13, 2015 5:37:03 GMT -5
People just hit a purple patch and go on decent run. I was expecting that my -41 in my exemption week in CC - C would give me a chance of gaining a C Card. It doesn't look as though that's going to be good enough. Yeah it sucks but it is what is it. Some players will play courses better and on the same ones players will struggle. It's tough to move up. Players of a similar standard to myself have taken the Q school and been thrown straight into A and B whilst i'm working hard to get there. There are those that don't perform so well in q school and adapt to the game very quickly and end up in the lower tiers shooting ridiculous scores. One thing for certain, it works itself out and the more CONSISTENT players will end up where they want to be as long as they are prepared to put in the time. Consistency is key. Valgrind looks tougher and i doubt that there will be the same scores. Valgrind is a bit tougher..but I'm still predicting -35 to -40 wins it in CC-D. It's disheartening (not just for me) when you hover around -30 for a tournament at this level and are still in danger of a demotion strike No i think that's a high estimation. You may be right though. I'm not disheartened though because i look back 2 months see where i was and where i am now, Im shooting scores to put me in position as have you been too. We just have to think that those scores we considered would be good enough aren't so we have to find a way to improve. Don't be too down about it because you will get there, it may just take a little longer. Just my thoughts.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 13, 2015 6:12:06 GMT -5
We just have to think that those scores we considered would be good enough aren't so we have to find a way to improve. Don't be too down about it because you will get there, it may just take a little longer. Just my thoughts. Oh I wouldn't say I'm down about it...it is what it is. If I were to join now and go through Q school I'd be placed likely in CC-B judging by my scores on the practice Q School. It's easier out of Q school now...that's why so many good players are mired in the lower tiers...we just can't advance. As for Valgrind...I fully expect someone to average -8 to -10 per round for the win in D
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Post by csabo17 on Nov 13, 2015 13:01:37 GMT -5
Wow 3 rounds in the 50s on CC-D? This is the 4th level below the two pro tours. Im amazed. Pretty sure he wont be around much longer if he keeps shooting those scores. Most people on the same teir wont shot -43 in all 4 rounds. Very nice shooting, good luck next week on C.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 14, 2015 7:09:36 GMT -5
28 under par for the tournament..and I'm heading towards a demotion strike in D. Laughable
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Post by scaniaman on Nov 14, 2015 7:30:24 GMT -5
Absolutely crazy, Imagine if that happened IRL in the Major's, Tiger Woods or Rory Macilroy on -28 and wasn't even in the top half of the leaderboard.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 14, 2015 9:55:01 GMT -5
Absolutely crazy, Imagine if that happened IRL in the Major's, Tiger Woods or Rory Macilroy on -28 and wasn't even in the top half of the leaderboard. I could see -28 not competing in A or B and would expect to miss the top 70 mark...but finishing below 70th in CC-D with an average of -7 per round?...c'mon...gotta admit that's pretty pathetic. I can see why some people are quitting the game entirely. Now I'm not complaining..I just find it weird that so many good players are in the lower tiers.
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Post by TimB on Nov 14, 2015 10:27:39 GMT -5
Hit -40 automatic promotion, all the way up to A. Then it's normal rules to get into Web
For Vallentuna that would clear out 9 of the -40's, leave some room for the lesser shooter, then another crop of -40 works up, then promoted out. Would help clear out the log jam we have down here.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 14, 2015 10:29:32 GMT -5
Hit -40 automatic promotion, all the way up to A. Then it's normal rules to get into Web For Vallentuna that would clear out 9 of the -40's, leave some room for the lesser shooter, then another crop of -40 works up, then promoted out. Would help clear out the log jam we have down here. It's getting pretty bad that you have to put up 4 rounds in the low 60's just to hang on to a top 70 finish
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Post by TimB on Nov 14, 2015 10:34:34 GMT -5
I hear ya, I've been hanging in the lower part of the leaderboard for many tournaments lately, just barely hanging on, just got lucky last couple ones not to accumulate another strike Hit -40 automatic promotion, all the way up to A. Then it's normal rules to get into Web For Vallentuna that would clear out 9 of the -40's, leave some room for the lesser shooter, then another crop of -40 works up, then promoted out. Would help clear out the log jam we have down here. It's getting pretty bad that you have to put up 4 rounds in the low 60's just to hang on to a top 70 finish
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Post by scaniaman on Nov 14, 2015 13:43:53 GMT -5
Hit -40 automatic promotion, all the way up to A. Then it's normal rules to get into Web For Vallentuna that would clear out 9 of the -40's, leave some room for the lesser shooter, then another crop of -40 works up, then promoted out. Would help clear out the log jam we have down here. I know Q School is there to decide where future players will be placed. So just to make sure that they did not deliberately post low scores so they would be placed low in CC, why not make a new CC called say CC-QS so after Q School they would all be placed in there where they could all hit -40, -50 etc and automatically then promoted into the PGA and leave us minor players to battle it out with normal scores. I know there are probably flaws in this setup but this is only a suggestion and not the finished article.
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Post by ABU_Bear on Nov 15, 2015 7:09:30 GMT -5
Well I hung on to 68th..don't ask me how..but I did. That said I really think they need to revisit the demotion strikes. I don't think it is entirely fair for the people who finished at -27 for this tournament and outside the top 70 in our tour..yet they would have been in the top 70 in CC-A and CC-C. I think if your scores wouldn't have earned a strike in a tier above you..it shouldn't earn you one at all.
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