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Post by mnguy12000 on Oct 27, 2015 11:00:13 GMT -5
I think if you Win it is a forced exemption. Otherwise you can choose to try PGA/Euro. If you are winning on Web, you should be able to make the move to PGA/Euro. All you have to do is make the cut to move up correct?
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Post by marino313131 on Oct 27, 2015 11:05:44 GMT -5
I chose to not use my exemption from week 1. If I start winning tours, then I'll consider moving up, but I didn't feel I would have been competitive on this weeks Pga course. I'm also not consistent enough on here to get bored with the challenge and want to move to the pga. I finished in the 60s last week and I'm middle of the pack so far this week. If the exemption was mandatory, I would have played.... But given a choice I'd rather stay here and work on my game. I totally understand this. Everyone wants to do well & obviously their will be a drop off in results when moving up to higher comp. I just think the whole system should be built on moving up & not staying put to do better in results. This is obviously just an opinion on how it should work. If I was in your position I would like a choice but as a mediocre WEB guy I currently sit in the position you don't want to be in on the PGA tour (not really competing). In the past I would have been more apt to keep grinding knowing the best players on my tour would likely be advancing so my chances get better each week. Bottom line is I need to get better but I think at least the winner should be mandatory move up. Just my take
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 27, 2015 11:06:26 GMT -5
I had to give this a go. Looks like I'm missing 3 cuts on the bounce on the European Tour and I only finished 75th or thereabouts on web last season. So I'm kind of in between skill levels. I shot -20 (65/67/67/69). Not too bad. Could have played better, could have played worse. People say it's a tough course and it can be, especially if you miss those fairways or if you get above the hole. However, wait for the stats to come out and I bet people are still hitting more fairways and greens than the pros do in real life so those fairways aren't too hard to hit. Anyways, birdie fest next week for those low score lovers. Hopefully you'll up your game and start moving up the leaderboard just as you did when you got to Web. Although if I remember correctly you hit the ground running there. I'm not sure what it is about the course, I just don't give myself many birdie opportunities, I'm crossing my fingers that practice will go better tonight. I was hung over yesterday after drowning my sorrows following another derby defeat.
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 27, 2015 11:15:12 GMT -5
I chose to not use my exemption from week 1. If I start winning tours, then I'll consider moving up, but I didn't feel I would have been competitive on this weeks Pga course. I'm also not consistent enough on here to get bored with the challenge and want to move to the pga. I finished in the 60s last week and I'm middle of the pack so far this week. If the exemption was mandatory, I would have played.... But given a choice I'd rather stay here and work on my game. I totally understand this. Everyone wants to do well & obviously their will be a drop off in results when moving up to higher comp. I just think the whole system should be built on moving up & not staying put to do better in results. This is obviously just an opinion on how it should work. If I was in your position I would like a choice but as a mediocre WEB guy I currently sit in the position you don't want to be in on the PGA tour (not really competing). In the past I would have been more apt to keep grinding knowing the best players on my tour would likely be advancing so my chances get better each week. Bottom line is I need to get better but I think at least the winner should be mandatory move up. Just my take I know what you mean but I just think that if someone has one amazing week when they play better than they normally do then they shouldn't be forced to move up. Yes, if someone continues to win and especially by more than a shot or 2 then they should have to move up. I think the current system of 3 wins is about right. It's my aim to try and make all cuts and get as many top 25s as I can. I want to be competitive at the web level the whole season and if I'm successful I may be in with a shout of a top 10 place on the tour. I'm in this for the long haul and love the idea of a season long battle with my rivals for those spots. Yes, if my fortunes change and I turn into Jared then I would go for the EURO tour but if I was to get 1 lucky win then I would rather stick it out here. Hope that makes sense.
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Post by marino313131 on Oct 27, 2015 11:22:52 GMT -5
dh-nufc - Absolutely that makes sense. I just think the lower half of the Web will feel very differently about this topic than the top half. The scenario I see playing out is multiple winners over and over in the Web this year. I just hope it doesn't sap the life out of the the bottom half. Maybe I am completely wrong. I don't think it's unreasonable to force one player (the winner) to play up the next week.
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Post by yaters on Oct 27, 2015 11:25:36 GMT -5
That's why I like not being any good. I never have the hard choice of using an exemption My toughest decision each week is if I pull out a driver on the green and launch a ball into the lake...or just go ahead and putt out for the 3-putt bogey.
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Post by feng187 on Oct 27, 2015 11:26:29 GMT -5
I chose to not use my exemption from week 1. If I start winning tours, then I'll consider moving up, but I didn't feel I would have been competitive on this weeks Pga course. I'm also not consistent enough on here to get bored with the challenge and want to move to the pga. I finished in the 60s last week and I'm middle of the pack so far this week. If the exemption was mandatory, I would have played.... But given a choice I'd rather stay here and work on my game. I think marino313131 made a good point about exemptions being mandatory as it does give people the opportunity to hang around at the same level and take exemption spots from others that are trying to move up otherwise. There are cases like Jared who was here to win back to back as he couldn't register like some of the others that got exemptions otherwise they would have taken theirs. Catcherman, I know you had your reason for not taking your exemption as you felt you didn't feel ready but you never know you could have taken your good form into the next event and stayed up if the decision was out of your hands. If you missed out then I guess you weren't ready and you would be back here competing again the following week anyway.
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Post by HeMan1202 on Oct 27, 2015 11:40:51 GMT -5
That's why I like not being any good. I never have the hard choice of using an exemption My toughest decision each week is if I pull out a driver on the green and launch a ball into the lake...or just go ahead and putt out for the 3-putt bogey.
Ha! I did this in speed golf one week. I was so pissed off by the 17th that when I got on the green I did a 180 to the nearest water and hit my driver. I then turned off my XB1 and cried.
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Post by jtrippuk on Oct 27, 2015 11:45:14 GMT -5
well that was interesting. -1 in R1, -5 in R2. not even going to bother playing R3 or R4, until I see if I made the cut. Nice course, shame about the greens.
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 27, 2015 11:55:20 GMT -5
dh-nufc - Absolutely that makes sense. I just think the lower half of the Web will feel very differently about this topic than the top half. The scenario I see playing out is multiple winners over and over in the Web this year. I just hope it doesn't sap the life out of the the bottom half. Maybe I am completely wrong. I don't think it's unreasonable to force one player (the winner) to play up the next week. I'm not sure the lower half would be all that bothered as they would be less likely to be looking for winning or exemption than others at the top. I would think people in the top 25 but not getting into the top 5 would be most bothered. I might even fit in that category but It's too early to say.
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Post by dh-nufc on Oct 27, 2015 11:57:06 GMT -5
well that was interesting. -1 in R1, -5 in R2. not even going to bother playing R3 or R4, until I see if I made the cut. Nice course, shame about the greens. I doubt I'll be doing any better, the greens punish the smallest of mistakes. In practice I've tried to play safely and have eliminated most bogeys, I just don't make the birdies though.
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Post by HeMan1202 on Oct 27, 2015 11:58:20 GMT -5
I just am not getting why people are taking issue with the green slopes/speed design. It was perfectly difficult and rewarded good approaches and good putting. There were no holes cut on severe slopes. The issue may be that not many of you have played on greens this fast where you have to aim 2-3 grid squares out to hit a 15-20 ft. putt. Chalk it up as experience but don't blast the design. It is not at all different from real world professional course greens (heck, even some CC greens I have played on).
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 27, 2015 12:09:49 GMT -5
I don't want to move up if I am going to miss cut after cut... I don't know why anybody would? One great week at Ballyntine (which is a course I excel at), doesn't mean I'd do well on the pga. I'd love to move up, but if I'm only playing two rounds a week, it's not going to be much fun. If I get to a point where I keep getting sponsers exemptions, then I'll reconsider my decision (as that wouldn't be fun either).
As a said though, you don't really have to worry about me taking an exemption week after week right now? I'm not consistent enough.
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 27, 2015 12:12:48 GMT -5
I should also mention I played the first two rounds of the page last week and would have missed the cut horribly, this week I played the first round of the page tour so far and shot -1, which would have put me in the mid 20's...
THat fits my game though.. I play well on the harder courses, and don't get enough birdies on the birdie feats to be competitive.
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Post by mnguy12000 on Oct 27, 2015 12:19:13 GMT -5
I just am not getting why people are taking issue with the green slopes/speed design. It was perfectly difficult and rewarded good approaches and good putting. There were no holes cut on severe slopes. The issue may be that not many of you have played on greens this fast where you have to aim 2-3 grid squares out to hit a 15-20 ft. putt. Chalk it up as experience but don't blast the design. It is not at all different from real world professional course greens (heck, even some CC greens I have played on). this is true. But it also has a few holes cut on ridges where you go up, then down. and that cause most folks trouble with these green speed. Since I just jumped in not really knowing the greens it cost me my first round. But once I got the speed down I putted a lot better. Sill the even lies in the fairways and the way the wind plays with chips has got me the most pissed off on this game.
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