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Post by blackaces13 on Aug 26, 2015 7:47:17 GMT -5
Yeah that is bad and should not be allowed. Golf is about adapting and improvising, being fluid enough to see shots and create them on the fly. Reducing this to a memorization exercise of trial and error will take away from the experience immensely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 7:49:42 GMT -5
Round 3: 1 Eagle, 4 birdies, 13 pars. Putted like crap. Two putted this thing to death! Six under and could've been so, so much better. The eagle was a nice two shots and then a putt that wasn't anymore or less difficult than six or seven others I missed for birdies during the round.
-21 through three and the wind fest coming for round four. Making it to the Deutsche Bank event next week is looking more difficult as I expected to have played 2, 3, or even 4 shots better than I did.
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 26, 2015 8:44:11 GMT -5
I'll be making 2nd tour hopefully at the same time when Doyley creates it on Saturday 12:01 am so the winds should be exactly the same. ummm, not sure how I feel about this. Allowing people to practice on the exact same winds and memorize the shots is unrealistic and creates a competitive advantage. I know that anyone can do this, but it seems a little hokey to me. That is absolutely wrong. It's exploiting the system, and is against the spirit of the game. I would DQ anyone that played in it that was in the regular tournament field, and ban the person that created the tournament, if it were up to me.
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Post by fuzion on Aug 26, 2015 8:46:41 GMT -5
The name of the tournament won't be the same so it makes no difference; the winds should be different. Not really much of a fan of people making practice tournaments anyway, that's what play round is for.
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 26, 2015 8:51:28 GMT -5
Not sure if the name matters anymore with Tournament Winds 2.0. Since (as I understand it) it uses the future wind, as opposed to generating random winds off a seed based off the name. I hope you're right though fuzion, as it does seem to be something that is exploitable if the name isn't used.
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Post by NCFCRulz on Aug 26, 2015 8:52:47 GMT -5
ummm, not sure how I feel about this. Allowing people to practice on the exact same winds and memorize the shots is unrealistic and creates a competitive advantage. I know that anyone can do this, but it seems a little hokey to me. That is absolutely wrong. It's exploiting the system, and is against the spirit of the game. I would DQ anyone that played in it that was in the regular tournament field, and ban the person that created the tournament, if it were up to me. Yeah it won't matter as title will be different and even if the tournament is set up 1 second later it will show significantly different winds as is all based off an algorithm. It's like when you had them Robert loves Stacey games where you would see what potential % match you were when you were a kid, if you just change one letter it completely changes the result. This wind algorithm works exactly the same if you change 1 number such as 12:07.44 to 12:07.45 or the title. So it's not an issue.
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 26, 2015 9:00:30 GMT -5
Tossed the question in to the live stream question thread. Hopefully Keith asks it for us. Maybe anyone that watches the stream live could ask as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 9:02:54 GMT -5
Frustrating last round. 5 birdies, 9 pars, 4 bogies for a -1.
R1: 66 -6 R2: 63 -9 R3: 66 -6 R4: 71 -1
Total: -22
No idea if I can improve from 123rd in pts to the top 100 with that score, but either way it was a nice challenge!
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Post by Han on Aug 26, 2015 9:02:59 GMT -5
Not really much of a fan of people making practice tournaments anyway, that's what play round is for. As a course designer (and the designer of the course being used for the Barclay's) I totally agree with the above statement. If we (designers) can spend the time and effort in making the course(s) for you to use in tournaments in the first place, then the least you can do is use them for practicing on to give us the plays and ratings (can't get rated from tournament rounds). As an example the Saturday version of Dunholme currently has 79 plays with a rating of 0.0 ........... Show the designers some love if you enjoy the courses they create, and also use the 'like' function on the course listings page.....after all that's what it is there for isn't it ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 9:09:16 GMT -5
You can't get ratings from tournament play? That needs to change straight away. Weird. I think it's just easier for people to practice multi pins if they set up a tour. At least that's what me and my mate do. We can play straight through that way, much easier.
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Post by Han on Aug 26, 2015 9:29:36 GMT -5
You can't get ratings from tournament play? That needs to change straight away. Weird. I think it's just easier for people to practice multi pins if they set up a tour. At least that's what me and my mate do. We can play straight through that way, much easier. As far as I can tell the only time you can give a rating on a tour/tournament is right at the end and that just gives a rating for the tour and no effect on the course/courses. I'll add it as a question to ask in the HB stream tonight just to clarify it. To a certain extent I can understand people creating a tour because it's supposedly easier to play through, but seriously, how long does it take to select a new course through 'Play Round'.......a few seconds ? Hardly a chore is it ? However if for example you wanted to play the same round again straight away it is actually faster in 'Play Round' anyway because you can just click on 'Play Again' at the end.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 26, 2015 9:40:36 GMT -5
The purpose of creating a tour to practice in, is to try and give yourself a realistic environment to play in. If you mess up in a practice round it is easy to restart. Messing up in round 3 of a tour you gotta slug it out and deal with it or do the whole tour over again. It is a mind set and also gives you different winds from the global. I have never published a course immediately at the same time Doyley did and normally I would publish multiple tournies to try and get winds from all directions and strengths. Some people like it this way, others like practicing on their own using single rounds.
That being said, TGC-Practice Deutsche is up for PC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 9:40:37 GMT -5
On the topic of getting courses rated I know we have this like thing but it would be good if people when signing their scorecards had to give a rating to the course. Sure, the rating may correlate to how well people have played but I think it would be a good way to get people's opinions in. Rather than searching through a long list to like a course through their own means.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 9:43:30 GMT -5
I shot moderately well, but I found this an outstanding course. Sorry I didn't play more practice rounds to give you more ratings. I played R4 in the 16 mph winds winging it.
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Post by nevadaballin on Aug 26, 2015 11:39:51 GMT -5
I understand practicing on a course first. PGA players do it every week on the tour. But if it is possible to emulate the wind conditions of the event, that would crossing the line.
I do remember seeing in the HB forum that the name does matter still. I'm wondering if adding a dot in it near the end would make a difference or if the game would see it as same and replicate.
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