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Post by sroel908 on Sept 12, 2021 12:51:17 GMT -5
If lie grid and wind indicator are off, then these would be the exact same settings as the Pro tours, I believe. It's been said that the admins are looking for a common structure, but want minor tweaks between CC and the Pro Tours. I hear you, but if the tweaks are only going to be minor, then what's the point really, everyone might as well play same settings then. We are all the same, some are just a bit better players than others. On the other hand, if the difference decided on is major, then it just might create a dividing wall where some peeps will sandbag simply not to promote into much harder settings. Someone said that the only difference between CC and Pro tours last season was the wind indicator, so I mean that's how it's been for a while - just slight differences between the two.
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Post by greyosprey on Sept 12, 2021 13:50:14 GMT -5
I hope these are options that can be set to "open", as far as CC goes. I have played with lie grid off for some time, and had recently made the change to distance/elevation in HUD. I also prefer wind meter without the number. I also have follow cam turned OFF, but pressing D-pad over-rides that anyway. I really like the Special Event test set-up and would like to continue playing with those settings in CC if at all possible.
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Post by hitandhope119 on Sept 12, 2021 13:56:03 GMT -5
CC-A Player.Peel Castle Golf Links,shot -23 for the four rounds. Test event -16 round one,-13 round two.Two round total -29. Hope this information will help you.😃
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 12, 2021 14:07:38 GMT -5
CC-A Player.Peel Castle Golf Links,shot -23 for the four rounds. Test event -16 round one,-13 round two.Two round total -29. Hope this information will help you.😃 Make sure you also come back and play the CC test that will be starting later today. Will be great to get as much feedback on those settings as possible, too!
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Post by Doyley on Sept 12, 2021 14:11:50 GMT -5
I hope these are options that can be set to "open", as far as CC goes. I have played with lie grid off for some time, and had recently made the change to distance/elevation in HUD. I also prefer wind meter without the number. I also have follow cam turned OFF, but pressing D-pad over-rides that anyway. I really like the Special Event test set-up and would like to continue playing with those settings in CC if at all possible. I leave settings to Open as long as there aren't any easier options above what we set. So you should be able tweak them to your liking if we don't land on the exact settings you prefer (assuming the tweaks make it more difficult).
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Post by Doyley on Sept 12, 2021 17:00:22 GMT -5
New events start in 1 hour. I have two Beer League events set up as well (Beer League and Elite) if anyone is looking to try that on for size. See below for those settings.
Beer League Settings: 1. Course yardage is set to Book Only 2. Aim Marker is set to Marker Only (means no distance/elevation will show above your aim marker) 3. Under Display & HUD menu you can set Distance Info Position to "In HUD". This will show the distance/elevation to the pin from your current position - if you have Distance Info Position set to On Marker you will not see this information (and be at a severe disadvantage/not see any elevation info). The must be manually changed by you - we can not set this for you. 4. Pro Vision: Trajectory is set to Aim Only 5. Pro Vision: True Shot is on, the rest of the Pro Vision options are off so you'll need to account for all other factors (ball lie, rough/fairway, elevation, wind etc) when setting up your shot. 6. Swing is set to Pro-Am
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 12, 2021 17:07:43 GMT -5
If I wanted to play without being able to get putting information on the green, i.e. Aim Marker to Marker only, then I would just play the TST society. Tru sim has no green grids. This at least has the green grids, a HUGE difference. A Top plat player said this is manageable and people would get used to just the aim marker with putting…Again, you have your green grids….
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 12, 2021 17:37:33 GMT -5
I’m getting to feel that there too many players with too many suggestions….in the end nobody will ever be happy….Master to Pro is a huge drop. There are only so many tweaks that you can do to satisfy all and then that is hard to satisfy. Let’s try to get through this season and get to the next game, lol…
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 12, 2021 17:50:39 GMT -5
Played the first round on this (shot -3 with a silly bogey on the last) and I have no issue with the settings. They don’t make anything to true simmy but remove a little bit of the ability to do golf by numbers. The only one I have a concern about is that without the elevation on the marker when it comes to putts we are left a bit blind when puts go beyond the 1ft there’s no way (as far as I’m aware) of knowing whether it is 1ft elevation or 1.9. Again I don’t mind this overly, experience will undoubtedly be a teacher if these are the settings and something to make putting more tricky at a pro club level might well be needed anyway. Btw it’s been nice to see so many Xbox players playing and scoring well. It’s been lonely at times for the last few months. Thanks as always Doyley and the team the fact we are doing this shows the level of consideration and thought you guys put into these decisions. I think the putting with just aim marker is perfect to make it a little more difficult. Since in Pro Tiers the putting will decide then why not have more thought put in? Now with CC the numbers should probably be kept with the numbers on the marker.
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Post by sroel908 on Sept 12, 2021 17:59:59 GMT -5
I’m getting to feel that there too many players with too many suggestions….in the end nobody will ever be happy….Master to Pro is a huge drop. There are only so many tweaks that you can do to satisfy all and then that is hard to satisfy. Let’s try to get through this season and get to the next game, lol… Just the way it is. At least there's all these test events to check out the new options and settings that are being considered. People can know right off the bat if the new settings will work for them or not, and can offer feedback.
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 12, 2021 18:02:09 GMT -5
Played a round in the Pro test 1 Special Society today and a round on the outgoing CC society course, didn't really see much difference between current Tour settings and this. Instead of seeing distance and elevation under the triangle marker thingy its now listed in the hud instead? And occasionally one has to actively search around for the location of the green when hitting from the tee on par 4's and 5's due to no x marks the spot indicator, might in the end add a couple of seconds overall in time taken from 1st tee to 18th hole pick up. Come to think of it now, can't recall i ever saw distance to and elevation of shots not aimed at the green, but there is still a marker that i assume indicates the general distance club in hand would travel in flat, no wind Besides, in my case, ball flight direction and distance carried is dictated by severity of measured off tempo swing rather than wind, elevation and lies, so perhaps anything that would make it harder for the sweet hitting tempo guys will benefit me i guess. Got my vote for cc tour, keep lie grid and wind speed indicator off too while we're at it, no need to make those ozone depleting computer chips working harder than what's necessary! Pretty much my feeling Croccy. Those of us from the Hit And Hope School of Golf are pretty much already playing those settings 🤣 It’s the maths scholars that may suffer!! Math people will need to adjust, if they are top plat players they will adjust anyway, they are that good to begin with.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 12, 2021 18:05:13 GMT -5
I’m getting to feel that there too many players with too many suggestions….in the end nobody will ever be happy….Master to Pro is a huge drop. There are only so many tweaks that you can do to satisfy all and then that is hard to satisfy. Let’s try to get through this season and get to the next game, lol… Doyley has an impossible task and I don't envy him having to make the call. In all honesty from a personal point of view I understand and am very happy with the change to Pro swing. Anything he feels is right to implement in order to assist this change is acceptable to me. I agree, let's get the season going and have a bit of fun while we wait for the new game to drop then we can go through the angst again!!
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Post by Doyley on Sept 12, 2021 18:10:27 GMT -5
After 7 years it's pretty easy to gauge the overall feeling of members so while it may feel like a bunch of random settings at first (throw them at the wall and see what sticks!), we did hone in on what has been a widely accepted group of settings pretty quick. That's 80% of the battle. The last 20% is more on TGCT admin to decide how to package it all together so that TGCT is a cohesive unit. That's where we are at now - the settings are pretty close to done but since we have the time, it only makes sense to get in as much testing as we can. The TGCT societies would just be empty/inactive otherwise.
We've had some massive offseason changes in the past and have lived through it - this will be no different. Not sure if any of you watch the TV show Survivor...but we're a lot like that. The base product is the same but have to be willing to adapt/change to keep things fresh and working - it's how they got to season 41 and how we've managed to complete 7 seasons across 4 very different golf games.
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Post by zooby97 on Sept 12, 2021 18:58:29 GMT -5
I’m getting to feel that there too many players with too many suggestions….in the end nobody will ever be happy….Master to Pro is a huge drop. There are only so many tweaks that you can do to satisfy all and then that is hard to satisfy. Let’s try to get through this season and get to the next game, lol… Doyley has an impossible task and I don't envy him having to make the call. In all honesty from a personal point of view I understand and am very happy with the change to Pro swing. Anything he feels is right to implement in order to assist this change is acceptable to me. I agree, let's get the season going and have a bit of fun while we wait for the new game to drop then we can go through the angst again!! Said it perfectly!
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Post by coggin66 on Sept 12, 2021 19:01:02 GMT -5
Pretty much my feeling Croccy. Those of us from the Hit And Hope School of Golf are pretty much already playing those settings 🤣 It’s the maths scholars that may suffer!! Math people will need to adjust, if they are top plat players they will adjust anyway, they are that good to begin with. Maths players won't turn into feel players if there is still a long-winded way to get the same maths result. All it does is add precious time to a round. I used to love true sim (before XBox tempo nonsense) but it took too long to play a round trying to fill the gaps that the "normal" game gives you to compensate for the fact we are playing on a 2-D screen.
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