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Post by ENAGC18 on Sept 12, 2021 2:29:20 GMT -5
If I wanted to play without being able to get putting information on the green, i.e. Aim Marker to Marker only, then I would just play the TST society.
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Post by coggin66 on Sept 12, 2021 2:38:22 GMT -5
To be fair I'm very maths based with my putting distance and my distance control is one of my strengths. I usually use Imperial but that has the nearest foot rounding error so I use the indicator to give myself an accurate height measurement in inches by moving it to the hole. I can get that accurate measurement in metric in this trial method but I would then have to go back to imperial to figure out where to place the marker by counting squares. All that wasted time to figure out something the game normally just gives me. Oh I see. I’m not particularly maths based. I play by feel/judgement. Probably why I never reach the heights and am inconsistent. Having said that I would rather hope we could all find a way to get on board with these settings. TGCT admin have been a massive help to many in dialling the level back to Pro. As I've said in our Brew Crew thread, I'm not interested in a weird hybrid True Sim Lite. If that is what we end up with, I would rather continue with the Season 7 method.
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 12, 2021 2:42:28 GMT -5
Oh I see. I’m not particularly maths based. I play by feel/judgement. Probably why I never reach the heights and am inconsistent. Having said that I would rather hope we could all find a way to get on board with these settings. TGCT admin have been a massive help to many in dialling the level back to Pro. As I've said in our Brew Crew thread, I'm not interested in a weird hybrid True Sim Lite. If that is what we end up with, I would rather continue with the Season 7 method. Fair enough. Someone said don’t mess too much with CC settings. Perhaps they were right. The feedback on these settings was good but only a few had provided it. A proper test on CC may well bring a different reaction by the look of it. To be fair Doyley is desperate for feedback from CC players as the event held so far with the settings was aimed at the Pro Tours.
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Post by sandbagger on Sept 12, 2021 2:49:09 GMT -5
Been playing some solo rounds on the series x using yardage book only.Ans no lie angle/ scout cam.I would say the current graphical software of this game really makes this difficult.I for one Cant see the changes in slopes or such.Even elevations are hard too see as they blend in with the texture.I think the dated graphics really make this a crap shoot
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Post by coggin66 on Sept 12, 2021 3:18:19 GMT -5
As I've said in our Brew Crew thread, I'm not interested in a weird hybrid True Sim Lite. If that is what we end up with, I would rather continue with the Season 7 method. Fair enough. Someone said don’t mess too much with CC settings. Perhaps they were right. The feedback on these settings was good but only a few had provided it. A proper test on CC may well bring a different reaction by the look of it. To be fair Doyley is desperate for feedback from CC players as the event held so far with the settings was aimed at the Pro Tours. He already has plenty of feedback for CC. It was called The Beer League!
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Post by SkyBlueBen on Sept 12, 2021 3:24:38 GMT -5
Fair enough. Someone said don’t mess too much with CC settings. Perhaps they were right. The feedback on these settings was good but only a few had provided it. A proper test on CC may well bring a different reaction by the look of it. To be fair Doyley is desperate for feedback from CC players as the event held so far with the settings was aimed at the Pro Tours. He already has plenty of feedback for CC. It was called The Beer League! I meant from these test events Ken. Only a few bother to give any feedback. You've given yours so that is ideal. The Pro Tours definitely need something to reel them in a little but perhaps on reflection CC should be left well alone. Everything will need to be revisited when the new game drops anyway.
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Post by sid snott on Sept 12, 2021 4:15:28 GMT -5
Peel Castle could of been used again to give a better idea of how the scores will be affected. I scored-3 +2 & -1 for the first 2 rds in CC-J with the masters settings. Gone round -7 &-11 for test one. Started the Special Event, not keen on the settings so far, but it's the first time playing with the settings. Will play test 2 and see
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Post by twangydave on Sept 12, 2021 4:24:55 GMT -5
I've played my first round on Special Events, I'm +10 at the moment, but hoping to improve on my second round! These setting are WAY harder than what I would normally use, but I think it makes for a really enjoyable game of golf.
What really sucked on master swing was not being able to hit fairways and greens, but with pro swing I can now be more accurate off the tee. I like the idea of the putting being something more 'instinctive' that you have to develop a feel for, and I would expect the best putters to be the guys at the top of the leader board.
The only thing I'm really struggling with is judging wind, how do you judge the influence of wind when there is no MPH displayed?
I think the settings are great, and I don't see why they couldn't work across the board. Obviously some people want different settings for lower difficulty tiers, but what if you play really well and get promoted? You'll then have been promoted into a tier that has settings you don't want to use.
I'm no expert, and also bad at the game, but to me, it makes more sense to have the same settings, and then just ramp up the wind, course and green difficulty for the top boys. Great work anyway TGC for exploring all the options, you're a good bunch!!
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Post by sid snott on Sept 12, 2021 4:31:54 GMT -5
I've played my first round on Special Events, I'm +10 at the moment, but hoping to improve on my second round! These setting are WAY harder than what I would normally use, but I think it makes for a really enjoyable game of golf. What really sucked on master swing was not being able to hit fairways and greens, but with pro swing I can now be more accurate off the tee. I like the idea of the putting being something more 'instinctive' that you have to develop a feel for, and I would expect the best putters to be the guys at the top of the leader board. The only thing I'm really struggling with is judging wind, how do you judge the influence of wind when there is no MPH displayed? I think the settings are great, and I don't see why they couldn't work across the board. Obviously some people want different settings for lower difficulty tiers, but what if you play really well and get promoted? You'll then have been promoted into a tier that has settings you don't want to use. I'm no expert, and also bad at the game, but to me, it makes more sense to have the same settings, and then just ramp up the wind, course and green difficulty for the top boys. Great work anyway TGC for exploring all the options, you're a good bunch!! If you look at the wind meter at the top of the screen the more the circle is filled the stronger the wind. Half filled is about 12- 13 mph
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Post by xvshitanvx on Sept 12, 2021 4:52:50 GMT -5
To be fair I'm very maths based with my putting distance and my distance control is one of my strengths. I usually use Imperial but that has the nearest foot rounding error so I use the indicator to give myself an accurate height measurement in inches by moving it to the hole. I can get that accurate measurement in metric in this trial method but I would then have to go back to imperial to figure out where to place the marker by counting squares. All that wasted time to figure out something the game normally just gives me. Oh I see. I’m not particularly maths based. I play by feel/judgement. Probably why I never reach the heights and am inconsistent. Having said that I would rather hope we could all find a way to get on board with these settings. TGCT admin have been a massive help to many in dialling the level back to Pro. This seems to be the divide so far. I think the majority of players are putting by feel so be interesting to watch this thread play out.
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Post by twangydave on Sept 12, 2021 5:02:44 GMT -5
I've played my first round on Special Events, I'm +10 at the moment, but hoping to improve on my second round! These setting are WAY harder than what I would normally use, but I think it makes for a really enjoyable game of golf. What really sucked on master swing was not being able to hit fairways and greens, but with pro swing I can now be more accurate off the tee. I like the idea of the putting being something more 'instinctive' that you have to develop a feel for, and I would expect the best putters to be the guys at the top of the leader board. The only thing I'm really struggling with is judging wind, how do you judge the influence of wind when there is no MPH displayed? I think the settings are great, and I don't see why they couldn't work across the board. Obviously some people want different settings for lower difficulty tiers, but what if you play really well and get promoted? You'll then have been promoted into a tier that has settings you don't want to use. I'm no expert, and also bad at the game, but to me, it makes more sense to have the same settings, and then just ramp up the wind, course and green difficulty for the top boys. Great work anyway TGC for exploring all the options, you're a good bunch!! If you look at the wind meter at the top of the screen the more the circle is filled the stronger the wind. Half filled is about 12- 13 mph Thank you!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 5:08:35 GMT -5
As a CC player, I would like to see these settings used in CC events. I enjoyed them very much but also see the need to bring back players who are not so challenge focused. As always, whatever Doley says...
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Post by WhatAboutAmeobi on Sept 12, 2021 5:45:54 GMT -5
I enjoyed playing with these settings. It does make putting more difficult as you don't know exactly how far uphill or downhill a putt is, so you have to make more of a judgement for how hard to hit the putt. I imagine someone will figure out how to determine it based on beads, etc, and it will be become a box counting exercise, but I wouldn't be at all opposed to these settings going forward.
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Post by SAM on Sept 12, 2021 6:41:01 GMT -5
Played round 1 at "Peel Castle" using the current Beer League settings (1.84x XP multiplier) so the only differences for me were: No lie grid & no aiming reticule thus taking the XP multiplier to 1.92x. Not having a lie grid felt more realistic & I would be happy to play on the Challenge Circuit without it. Not having an aiming reticule made no difference & I didn't miss it at all. In conclusion: Works for me - cannot wait to get my tour card back.
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Post by GW_Hope on Sept 12, 2021 7:41:19 GMT -5
I hope more players learn to play by feel. It’s more enjoyable and less frustrating. I used to be into all the counting and clicking but it took away from playing golf. Give it some time, there is lots to see you might have missed. After time you will see differences in you players backswing and foot positions to give you clues on elevations and slope along with how your ball rolls out. You won’t even have to think too hard about it you will see the nuances the more you play.
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