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Post by edi_vedder on Aug 10, 2015 22:31:44 GMT -5
Actually - the FIR and GIR numbers are too high on both courses. Because hitting fairways/greens is actually way too easy in this game, unless you have super high winds (+16mph) blowing on a course with extremely narrow fairways. But I can live with that, as it is the same for everyone!
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Post by MrSourNinja on Aug 10, 2015 22:34:02 GMT -5
Actually - the FIR and GIR numbers are too high on both courses. Because hitting fairways/greens is actually way too easy in this game, unless you have super high winds (+16mph) blowing on a course with extremely narrow fairways. But I can live with that, as it is the same for everyone! My new course could change your minds, then again, maybe not.
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Post by mcbogga on Aug 11, 2015 2:10:30 GMT -5
Actually - the FIR and GIR numbers are too high on both courses. Because hitting fairways/greens is actually way too easy in this game, unless you have super high winds (+16mph) blowing on a course with extremely narrow fairways. But I can live with that, as it is the same for everyone! You are right - and very difficult to design courses that produces realistic numbers AND play well. Sadly.
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 11, 2015 8:11:30 GMT -5
Considering what HB posted about green speeds (can't recall the exact post), but even the fastest green speed setting is only about a 10 stimpmeter equivalent... I really believe all pro tour events should be the maximum green speed. If someone wants to adjust for soft/wet weather for example, maybe that drops it to 170. But there is just no way we should be seeing green speeds any slower.
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Post by fuzion on Aug 11, 2015 9:16:14 GMT -5
TGC green speeds on the stimp go from 4.5 to 8.5.
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Post by MrSourNinja on Aug 11, 2015 10:32:03 GMT -5
TGC green speeds on the stimp go from 4.5 to 8.5. How do you know?
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Post by fuzion on Aug 11, 2015 10:43:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 11:57:19 GMT -5
Considering what HB posted about green speeds (can't recall the exact post), but even the fastest green speed setting is only about a 10 stimpmeter equivalent... I really believe all pro tour events should be the maximum green speed. If someone wants to adjust for soft/wet weather for example, maybe that drops it to 170. But there is just no way we should be seeing green speeds any slower. I think the variety in some green speeds is good otherwise people would just get used to the speeds. I personally think... Pro Tours - Fast, Med-Fast, Medium Web - Med-Fast, Medium, Med-slow CC - Medium, Med-slow, slow
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Post by Pubknight on Aug 11, 2015 12:48:15 GMT -5
Understand your point... and maybe for the Web and CC tours what you are saying makes sense. But at the pro level, even the fastest green speeds the game has to offer just aren't that fast. There has to be a little 'caution'... guys can't just feel the freedom to take a run at every putt. Sometimes you just have to lag it up there. With slower greens, you realistically have a chance at sinking every putt... because you can neutralize the break with speed... since the 10' putt coming back if you miss is basically a tap in.
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Post by jeffvadersith on Aug 13, 2015 10:06:55 GMT -5
TGC green speeds on the stimp go from 4.5 to 8.5. I think the only issue is that the ball physics are not reflective of real world golf, so regardless of whatever the stimp meter rating is, the ball rolls too much on TGC greens when they're set to fast (when hitting on to them, not when putting) in my opinion. Ideally the greens would be lightning fast to putt on but not lightning fast to land on. Just my thoughts on the matter, I could be wrong.
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Post by reebdoog on Aug 13, 2015 14:01:07 GMT -5
firmness is the setting that matters for holding the green Speed only comes into play when you putt. That's my understanding.
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Post by bruce on Aug 14, 2015 6:34:50 GMT -5
Selections I think have been good. But one thing needs to be addressed, and thats playability on ALL systems. I noticed just before the swing fix, a lot of the recent courses picked have had slow or laggy play. Now this is on the PS4, maybe on the PC they may work fine, but that may not also be true depending on the PC you have. Does anyone test the picked courses on all platforms ? This is a similar problem we're have with the swing fix, it might work OK on some systems, but not all.
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Post by boomboom on Aug 14, 2015 8:25:22 GMT -5
^^^^^^^^This right here is something I never paid attention to before. I was always watching the file size bar and being careful. For my latest masterpiece I have the FPS counter running and immediately will notice a hit when placing objects and will then not place such object. So presently I'm paying much more attention to performance when decorating the hole.
I also notice certain trees that flop around a lot in the wind cause a huge performance lag as well however only when the wind starts to really blow. That is something that is most likely missed when testing a course for the tours. In addition the country side theme is horrible performance wise in the very windy conditions.
I know for a fact they are tested on all platforms by all levels of players. However to reject someone's great work that took in some cases months to build because of someone's low end PC, or because someone refuses to adjust their settings properly is not really fair to the designer.
In addition, the designers are producing a piece of art, trying to find the balance of making the course visually appealing and playable, and I'm sure some of the great ones are not about to release something that is not up to their standards of acceptability to appease playability by lower end or misconfigured rigs.
However from what I have seen, these guys at TGCTours have it firmly under control and are on top of everything.
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Post by edi_vedder on Aug 14, 2015 21:16:21 GMT -5
ATTENTION - THIS IS NO COMPLAINIG/WHINING/MOANING!Played my first practice round yesterday for the EUR-event next week at Spartina G.C.
Was it just me or are those greens extremly firm on the approach shot(s)? I was already starting to (highly) loft my clubs after realizing it on the first few holes, but I still had a couple of balls rolling out on the green over-average. I'm just curious what experiences have been for other guys practicing for that tournament.
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Post by rod81simo on Aug 14, 2015 21:37:31 GMT -5
ATTENTION - THIS IS NO COMPLAINIG/WHINING/MOANING!Played my first practice round yesterday for the EUR-event next week at Spartina G.C.
Was it just me or are those greens extremly firm on the approach shot(s)? I was already starting to (highly) loft my clubs after realizing it on the first few holes, but I still had a couple of balls rolling out on the green over-average. I'm just curious what experiences have been for other guys practicing for that tournament. It is pretty firm, slightly too firm. I've found wind direction around there is critical. Played 3 rounds there and struggled to shoot -3,-4 then last night had good wind direction and I shot an easy -11, could and should have been -14. Will be ok for comp with the locked in winds tho thank god. Will just depend on direction I think as to how low scores will be
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