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Post by hoosierhoops24 on Oct 9, 2019 22:19:33 GMT -5
Just checking in on you guys. There's virtually no one on the forum at CC-A. This thread has 4x as many posts as the one over there. I hope the participation picks up but I'm not very optimistic. After a promising first round 62 (-10) where I left several shots on the course, I followed that up with a pathetic 67 (-5) for a 2 round total of -15. That's going to put me in the middle of the pack, which is right about what I expected. I hope several of you guys get promoted so we can liven things up on CC-A. I suspect I'll be there the rest of the season because I'm not good enough to get promoted but I'll probably play well enough to avoid demotion. Good luck everyone this week!
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Post by SAM on Oct 10, 2019 7:12:03 GMT -5
Final 2 rounds & another good one followed by a mediocre one to finish. 9 under & 6 under for a total event score of -28. I note the PGA guys get to play next weeks course "Bar Harbor Maine" in a fortnight's time Will be interesting to compare the settings & scores.
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Post by mart280 on Oct 10, 2019 11:35:13 GMT -5
My first tournament using Masters I shot 27 under for the week, which isn't too bad but it could have been a lot better, I missed a few putts but my driving is getting better, it's all about the tempo and rhythm.
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 11, 2019 8:58:28 GMT -5
Just checking in on you guys. There's virtually no one on the forum at CC-A. This thread has 4x as many posts as the one over there. I hope the participation picks up but I'm not very optimistic. After a promising first round 62 (-10) where I left several shots on the course, I followed that up with a pathetic 67 (-5) for a 2 round total of -15. That's going to put me in the middle of the pack, which is right about what I expected. I hope several of you guys get promoted so we can liven things up on CC-A. I suspect I'll be there the rest of the season because I'm not good enough to get promoted but I'll probably play well enough to avoid demotion. Good luck everyone this week! I'm back at home! Still don't Know if i'll play the tournament this week..i have an internal fight about this thing, but considering i don't play the game by days..i really want to play some golf..so is not so impossible I'll play, in the end. About the low level of participation in the cc-a thread, be patient. If I can find a way to obtain my third promo mark in the next weeks, you'll see that thread will be a lot much populated, suddenly Anyway..good week-end guys! I hope your tournament has been good enough (still I checked nothing). Have fun!
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Post by CoinHen77 on Oct 11, 2019 9:23:54 GMT -5
First CC-B tourney in the books. Shot a -32... only reason i'm in the running for a promotion mark is the -11 i shot in round three. Decent follow up in round four with a -7, but not sure it's gonna be enough.
Regardless, good to be here with you fine people!
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Post by hoosierhoops24 on Oct 11, 2019 20:32:05 GMT -5
Just checking in on you guys. There's virtually no one on the forum at CC-A. This thread has 4x as many posts as the one over there. I hope the participation picks up but I'm not very optimistic. After a promising first round 62 (-10) where I left several shots on the course, I followed that up with a pathetic 67 (-5) for a 2 round total of -15. That's going to put me in the middle of the pack, which is right about what I expected. I hope several of you guys get promoted so we can liven things up on CC-A. I suspect I'll be there the rest of the season because I'm not good enough to get promoted but I'll probably play well enough to avoid demotion. Good luck everyone this week! I'm back at home! Still don't Know if i'll play the tournament this week..i have an internal fight about this thing, but considering i don't play the game by days..i really want to play some golf..so is not so impossible I'll play, in the end. About the low level of participation in the cc-a thread, be patient. If I can find a way to obtain my third promo mark in the next weeks, you'll see that thread will be a lot much populated, suddenly Anyway..good week-end guys! I hope your tournament has been good enough (still I checked nothing). Have fun! Glad to see you’re back, ezzino. Hope to see you on CC-A soon!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2019 20:44:31 GMT -5
A bit of a struggle for me this week, but love this course. Gonna be a pretty average mid-pack finish for Victor this week.
-7 -2 -9 -7 ——- -25
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Post by sid snott on Oct 12, 2019 3:21:01 GMT -5
This week started out as the Clapper Classic Tournament, but ended up being a Classic Crapper of a tournament for me.
Started with a -2 for rd 1, not brilliant, it'll do. Rd 2 a -5, better keeping out of demo mark range. -9 for rd 3, now we're going places.
Then the sh!t hit the fan for rd 4! Started off alright, getting to -2 on hole 3, then about half way round the rd started missing short easy putts, threw controller on floor in disgust after the 3rd time. Not a good thing to do, now I slowly shuffle round while taking my swing. Grabs spare controller to finish rd for +2. Clean rds for 2 & 3 with one bogey in rd 1 and then four bogies and a double in rd 4 to finish up -14 in total
Demo mark time 1 or 2?
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 12, 2019 3:58:36 GMT -5
sid snott yeah..you must be a Gandhian, if you want to play this game. Like a fish under ketamine. Is this the real challenge. To not threat, injury or kill someone while you play. Objects, divinities and yourself included And with those greens..with those little places to reach in some hole, if you suffer some systemic deviation in your swing..is over. Aaaanyway...about me..probably finally I'll try to play. To play 4 rounds in 24 hours is against any rule or habit, for me..but I'm considering that I already must quit events for the glitch..if I start to quit also those tournaments that I could play..it would be just stupid. Even if I can't play them "properly"...and with very little time to finish, considering that I'm still coming home from the work. Is clear that i have not great expectations if I play..but if I can play good enough to avoid some demo mark..what I have to lose, after all? Tonight I played 3 fast rounds, just to verify that actually i don't suffer for the glitch how it seems..and everything is fine and the course is exactly how i remembered it. Really gorgeous. And hard in a very smart way. I appreciate it a lot. Probably 90% of my score will depend on how straight my swing will be. After the inactivity, first tries are not exactly encouraging about this, but well..will see what i can do. Good Saturday, guys!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 12, 2019 15:17:38 GMT -5
I'm playing, in the end. I have really little time, but I'll try anyway. -13 after first round. Just one bogey and 14 birdies. 4 fairway missed for very unlucky bounces..but just one green missed. Extremely good on putt although my swing still going a bit everywhere from tee to green. The high wind is still manageable on firm greens..and the course is really, really good and funny.
I see in second round there are very firm surfaces and default wind. Usual stuff of this season. So i'm ready to bet that the wind will be high again. Or, otherwise, it will be exactly like at Geiranger, with the wind going from low to high (if not very high) with no solution of continuity. I can bet what you want that it will be one of the two.
I was also considering that, with the wind from NW, at least on two par 3s (hole 8 and 12) I'll have for sure a long and a medium approach with the wind on my back and if wind it will be actually high, I already know that it will be simply impossible for me, with pro clubs, to stop the ball near to the pin, if the pin it will be placed less than 7 squares from the start of the green, if there is an obstacle just before the green. I can simply decide if to risk, just hoping to have a lucky bounce..or to accept the idea that i'll putt from at least 6-8 meters. And this will happens also on every hole in which I'll have the wind on my back stronger than 8 mph cause, with this surface, an I5 will have a bounce&roll of almost 18 meters. And this will be more or less the same for every club longer than a i9. If someone don't believe me..is easy to verify if I'm wrong.
Sometime I wish just to know if who prepare the setting of the courses, tries to play even just a round with pro clubs, on THESE conditions, to understand what I mean. And why I criticize this thing if it happens every week. Or maybe is just a choice, to play for 4 consecutive weeks tough courses on very tough conditions. And I'm just too stupid to understand why to play 4 consecutive weeks in this way in ccpro. Really. For the enjoyment (?) of 100/150 people who can manage these conditions every week (and I can, if I play focused and well enough, but the point is not me here), 450/500 players will hate every shot of every round. On every week. Ccpro shouldn't be a bit more inclusive? Or there is some reason to play every week in this way and I can't see it, also considering that the new rule allows demotions in two weeks, if you scores bad enough? Mah..
Well..see you at the end of the gri..the tournament.
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 12, 2019 18:42:17 GMT -5
I'm playing, in the end. I have really little time, but I'll try anyway. -13 after first round. Just one bogey and 14 birdies. 4 fairway missed for very unlucky bounces..but just one green missed. Extremely good on putt although my swing still going a bit everywhere from tee to green. The high wind is still manageable on firm greens..and the course is really, really good and funny. I see in second round there are very firm surfaces and default wind. Usual stuff of this season. So i'm ready to bet that the wind will be high again. Or, otherwise, it will be exactly like at Geiranger, with the wind going from low to high (if not very high) with no solution of continuity. I can bet what you want that it will be one of the two. I was also considering that, with the wind from NW, at least on two par 3s (hole 8 and 12) I'll have for sure a long and a medium approach with the wind on my back and if wind it will be actually high, I already know that it will be simply impossible for me, with pro clubs, to stop the ball near to the pin, if the pin it will be placed less than 7 squares from the start of the green, if there is an obstacle just before the green. I can simply decide if to risk, just hoping to have a lucky bounce..or to accept the idea that i'll putt from at least 6-8 meters. And this will happens also on every hole in which I'll have the wind on my back stronger than 8 mph cause, with this surface, an I5 will have a bounce&roll of almost 18 meters. And this will be more or less the same for every club longer than a i9. If someone don't believe me..is easy to verify if I'm wrong. Sometime I wish just to know if who prepare the setting of the courses, tries to play even just a round with pro clubs, on THESE conditions, to understand what I mean. And why I criticize this thing if it happens every week. Or maybe is just a choice, to play for 4 consecutive weeks tough courses on very tough conditions. And I'm just too stupid to understand why to play 4 consecutive weeks in this way in ccpro. Really. For the enjoyment (?) of 100/150 people who can manage these conditions every week (and I can, if I play focused and well enough, but the point is not me here), 450/500 players will hate every shot of every round. On every week. Ccpro shouldn't be a bit more inclusive? Or there is some reason to play every week in this way and I can't see it, also considering that the new rule allows demotions in two weeks, if you scores bad enough? Mah.. Well..see you at the end of the gri..the tournament. To answer your question... I always ask the designer If they want a hand in picking conditions.. if they don't, I look at my notes for conditions to avoid in certain rounds, and then randomly assign everything. Also, These scores are right about average for CC pro... maybe a bit higher... so I wouldn't call this tough courses on very tough conditions.... For the record.. you do have a few easier courses coming up...
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Post by jhendricks316 on Oct 12, 2019 18:48:03 GMT -5
Not gonna lie... it feels like an honor to be here after being promoted from CC-E! I was in the running for a promotion mark this week until I strung a few bad shots together on a couple holes in the final round. Finished at -32 on Masters though!
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Post by ezzinomilonga on Oct 12, 2019 19:18:52 GMT -5
catcherman22 this answers nothing of what is the point here. The fact here (one of the facts) is the every time you (or who schedules courses for ccpro) assign a default wind on a very firm surface, you can't have a single idea of what will be not the exact, but even just the approximated strength of the wind. This means that you have not idea of what will be the REAL condition of the round. And with very firm greens, unless there is not the intention to offer a particularly tough round, with this setup you risk only to force players to play a redundantly tough round. Possibly in an already tough course. Possibly after an already pretty tough round. And this could be not a big issue if there is a very hard round on 4. But this is the 4th consecutive tournament played with hard or really hard conditions in almost every round. On course really tough by default. But the ccpro is the biggest flight on this tour and the medium player here can't only hate to play every round in this way. That's my point. This is not the PGA or the Euro Tour. This flight shouldn't be a constant grind. Or it should and I'm simply wrong assuming this? And just to say.. I finished some minute ago the second round. As I knew, the wind was everywhere between a very high and a low wind. The holes from the 7 to the 10 were simply a question of luck cause the combination of wind and firmness on both fairways and greens make these hole simply almost unplayable for pro clubs. Again, is not the single difficulty the problem here. Is the total amount. Is that every round has a tough setup playing on courses already tough, til now. So said..is enough for mw to complain. If I'm the only who thinks there is something wrong, is just my problem and I can shut up. Furthemore, in the general CC thread there is a post of feedbacks. Requested feedbacks. 8 points. Reasonable points. After much more than a week, there is not a single answer. Not a single change. Not the shadow of a debate, even just to say that those points are stupid and wrong. The problem is that, as already proved, for someone feedbacks are good and useful only when they are good. But I'm still pretty sure that if we ask if conditions on these first tournaments has been a bit exaggerated for ccpro, the majority will say yes. And a lot of them say nothing just cause they know that with every probability they already know that nothing will change. And probably they would be also criticized for the complaints. And I'm tired to so the don chischiotte just cause I point out things really obvious and easy to see that requires very little to be fixed yo have a flight competitive but funny even for the less talented guys..that here are the majority. Do what you want.
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Post by catcherman22 on Oct 12, 2019 21:02:08 GMT -5
catcherman22 this answers nothing of what is the point here. The fact here (one of the facts) is the every time you (or who schedules courses for ccpro) assign a default wind on a very firm surface, you can't have a single idea of what will be not the exact, but even just the approximated strength of the wind. This means that you have not idea of what will be the REAL condition of the round. And with very firm greens, unless there is not the intention to offer a particularly tough round, with this setup you risk only to force players to play a redundantly tough round. Possibly in an already tough course. Possibly after an already pretty tough round. And this could be not a big issue if there is a very hard round on 4. But this is the 4th consecutive tournament played with hard or really hard conditions in almost every round. On course really tough by default. But the ccpro is the biggest flight on this tour and the medium player here can't only hate to play every round in this way. That's my point. This is not the PGA or the Euro Tour. This flight shouldn't be a constant grind. Or it should and I'm simply wrong assuming this? And just to say.. I finished some minute ago the second round. As I knew, the wind was everywhere between a very high and a low wind. The holes from the 7 to the 10 were simply a question of luck cause the combination of wind and firmness on both fairways and greens make these hole simply almost unplayable for pro clubs. Again, is not the single difficulty the problem here. Is the total amount. Is that every round has a tough setup playing on courses already tough, til now. So said..is enough for mw to complain. If I'm the only who thinks there is something wrong, is just my problem and I can shut up. Furthemore, in the general CC thread there is a post of feedbacks. Requested feedbacks. 8 points. Reasonable points. After much more than a week, there is not a single answer. Not a single change. Not the shadow of a debate, even just to say that those points are stupid and wrong. The problem is that, as already proved, for someone feedbacks are good and useful only when they are good. But I'm still pretty sure that if we ask if conditions on these first tournaments has been a bit exaggerated for ccpro, the majority will say yes. And a lot of them say nothing just cause they know that with every probability they already know that nothing will change. And probably they would be also criticized for the complaints. And I'm tired to so the don chischiotte just cause I point out things really obvious and easy to see that requires very little to be fixed yo have a flight competitive but funny even for the less talented guys..that here are the majority. Do what you want. Almost every round? You had one round of Very firm (Round 2)… and 1 round of Very Firm in weeks 2 - 4. The tour as a whole needs to be play on firm occasionally. I'm not going to schedule moderate or soft on every round just to makes thing easier. The whole point of CC Pro is to prepare you to go to the next level. I started on CC B and now play on the PGA... why? because I was challenged. Here were the designer recommended conditions: R1: High Winds - South - Default everything else. R2: High Winds - Northwest - Very Firm Greens & Terrain - default everything else. R3: Very High Winds - Southeast - Rain - Fast Greens - Moderate Green & Terrain Firmness R4: High Winds - East - Default everything else. You can see I eased the winds a bit. That's kind of the whole point of default winds though... you're not suppose to know what you're going to get. That makes it a bit more realistic for real golf. You do get a very firm round again next tour... (just fyi, I fully expect that round to be a bloodbath... I think the course can handle the conditions of that one round, but I guess we'll find out tomorrow.. lol) and then you don't see a very firm again until week 11, so things soften up a bit. I should also add that I scheduled the first 5 weeks before the season started... So was shooting a bit blind on what the makeup of the tours would be (since a large number completed q school week 1). That should also explain why you don't feel like your feedback has been listened to. I'm around 6 weeks ahead, so it takes time for feedback to show in the way tournaments are set up. Do I think the conditions have been tough? Looking at the results of the first 5 weeks... not really. Again, when looking at scores across all of the seasons, we're like a shot below where we usually are. I'm happy with the way the first tours have gone, and judging by the feedback we got at the end of last season.. so are most people. The first 5 weeks have been on par with last season for the most part.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 22:20:17 GMT -5
I've gotta be honest, I think the first 5 weeks have been awesome courses and appropriate challenges, and I've had a freakin' blast so far this year. Most fun I've had on TGCTours in a while (which is not a knock on the tours, I had my own swing issues to work out, etc). As I look ahead at the next 5 events on CC-Pro, I'm still just as excited about what I see. Next week's course (Bar Harbour) is great, and the venues scheduled after that are top-notch, so I'm very happy. I also tend to enjoy "the grind" a bit more than most, because when it is an absolute birdie-fest and there are twenty+ people shooting -15 in every round, I don't enjoy that.
Just my take on what I've seen so far in Season 6.
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