grey3eard
Weekend Golfer
I am a Grandad in his early fifties who enjoys playing video game golf!
Posts: 98
TGCT Name: Mark Hale
Tour: Beer League
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Post by grey3eard on Sept 9, 2019 14:28:01 GMT -5
Great shooting Thomas..... I'm -21 for the first two rounds, if I can double that by the end I will be a happy chappy and it will be a solid start to the season. I might load up your ghosts for the final 2 rounds yaters . I used your ghost for round 1 Mark. I don't normally play with ghosts, but thought it would be fun. Quite the start to the season, eagle 2 on the very first hole! Hope you got a video clip of that one. I didn't play with ghosts the rest of the way and maybe should have - I was a confused mess out there. My 3rd round would be worth tagging along with my ghost. Round 4 will do you no good unless you want to laugh at my ridiculous approaches. Not sure where the eagle 2 came from to be honest as my wife kept trying to talk to me.....lol. I did clip it though and attached it to my scorecard on the leaderboard I don't usually play with ghosts either, as i'm not sure if they would be a distraction or not but will give it a go with your Round 3 as I assume that was your -14 round. Oh man, the approaches on this course can drive you mad, I might be laughing at my own on Round 4.
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Post by jacobkessler on Sept 9, 2019 18:30:00 GMT -5
Closed Season 5 with an ace on hole 2, opened season 6 with an ace on Hole 9...
I wonder if this is the first ace of the season?
Anyways, opened with a -12 59. Putter started hot- putts on 1 and 2 of 19 and 26 feet, respectively. After being -7 thru 9, though, a three putt bogey on 11 slowed the momentum. Still, I'm very happy with that as a season opener!
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mayday_golf83
TGCT Design Competition Directors
Posts: 2,279
TGCT Name: Jeremy Mayo
Tour: Elite
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Sept 9, 2019 19:04:41 GMT -5
Well I was -19 playing the 16th R2, got a wonky swing line, missed the green right and rolled down toward the road. I was on the fairway and still inside the fence so no worries, right? WRONG! HB decided I was OB, I ended up taking a double and then got screwed by a 10 MPH headwind that did nothing that led to par on 17. Should have been -21 after 2, instead was -17 ... played the rest of the tourney just under the boil while HB continued to fist me with balls that stayed on wrong levels, lip outs and putts that broke way more/less than it looked like they should.
-29 when the dust settled which will be a crap finish.
I'll say I love the course with the angles and positioning and strategy. That being said, It wasn't set up for BCT in mind and really gave us some awkward yardages and carries. Can't fault the designer on that, put part and parcel of being stuck in the same society as the CC-Am guys instead of having our own society where we could really tailor the course setup to suit beginner yardage (See: Kingdom, The).
I can't even pin the OB snafu on the architect b/c, if any of you have tried putting OB in on a course, it's like trying to make a marble sculpture with a jackhammer -- just zero ability to control the fine detail. Betting it didn't even show up as OB in the designer.
So, yeah, I'm walking a little funny after this one. Luckily I'll have a week to heal before I tee it up again.
Good luck to those who have yet to play. You should have it ... I had to have used up all the bad luck that course has to offer!
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Post by ShaneM86 on Sept 9, 2019 21:13:59 GMT -5
cant wait for these people to say, oh i could have had a birdie here or made a better putt on a certain, but ends up shooting -14 Glad you are here Mr. positive so if you think your so good with on the BCT why dont you move up to the next tier or whatever ? im sick of people saying oh i missed a shot here of there but still shooting -50 or -60 , this was my gripe i bought up with VictoryLane, your CLEARLY good enough to play on other tours yet your on the BCT cup while guys like me and others trying to get better scores but seing you and other shoot insane scores is of putting
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Post by HeMan1202 on Sept 9, 2019 22:19:54 GMT -5
Glad you are here Mr. positive so if you think your so good with on the BCT why dont you move up to the next tier or whatever ? im sick of people saying oh i missed a shot here of there but still shooting -50 or -60 , this was my gripe i bought up with VictoryLane, your CLEARLY good enough to play on other tours yet your on the BCT cup while guys like me and others trying to get better scores but seing you and other shoot insane scores is of putting There are plenty of reasons people choose to play BCT. The misconception of BCT is that it is for beginner players. Obviously not the case. Some just like the way beginner clubs play ala TGC 1 without the BS tempo that comes with Masters clubs and even Pro clubs in some cases. Everyone has a right to express areas in which they believe they could have played better, whether they shoot -5 or -50, it’s all relative. Just relax and play the game. If it bothers you so much don’t visit the forums.
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mayday_golf83
TGCT Design Competition Directors
Posts: 2,279
TGCT Name: Jeremy Mayo
Tour: Elite
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Sept 9, 2019 22:32:10 GMT -5
Well, ShaneM86 it's like this -- and I'll preface this w/ an except from Doyley in the rules/reminders part of this board: "Note: This isn't a beginner skill level tour, but a beginner clubset tour - you may find all ranges of skill level on this tour." You'll likely find different answers to the question of what more "experienced" players are down here, depending on who you ask. Some didn't like the grind of the pro tours, where shooting scores of -20 after two rounds MIGHT get you to the weekend, if you're lucky ... Some are fed up with the sometimes unpredictable tempo of master or pro clubs (especially those on PC/XB1). Some use it as a place to meet with friends and congregate in a little more relaxed tour format. Some (and I fall into this category) play BCT because the style of play harkens back to the TGC1 days where the success of the swing wasn't tied to tempo -- rather it was simply a matter of pulling the stick back and through. I can see where a new player could find it discouraging about an experienced play bemoaning a round the noob DREAMS he could shoot but, it's all about perspective. He's put in the time, and is used to the game's nuances enough where he expects to have and convert more birdie opportunites, and knows what kind of chances are make-able based on his skill level. A newer guy might not be there yet, but I'd say don't worry about looking at the top of the leaderboard. Figure out how you're shooting and where you're placing and use that as a baseline. Are you getting better each week? Are you reading the greens better and making more putts? Is your proximity to the hole improving? Are you becoming more proficient in the short game? Focus on improving your own game and playing the best round of golf YOU can play. I guess that's the best advice I can give. Don't be discouraged about what others shoot, rather look at it as something to strive for and celebrate your milestones on the way toward reaching that goal.
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Post by yaters on Sept 9, 2019 22:49:53 GMT -5
Glad you are here Mr. positive so if you think your so good with on the BCT why dont you move up to the next tier or whatever ? im sick of people saying oh i missed a shot here of there but still shooting -50 or -60 , this was my gripe i bought up with VictoryLane, your CLEARLY good enough to play on other tours yet your on the BCT cup while guys like me and others trying to get better scores but seing you and other shoot insane scores is of putting I can explain it, but I don't know if you'll care and it won't help your situation. I've played this game since the first version came out. I moved up fairly quickly from CC-A to Web to PGA. Spent the next couple of seasons on PGA and when the next version of the game came out, I had no issues. Then came the current version, TGC2019, and the various flights were separated by club selection (Masters/Pro/Beginner). I tried to play with Masters clubs for the first month, but couldn't make the tempo swing work. I lost interest in the game and stopped playing for about 6-7 months. But I got a message from an old friend who had just created a course to come check it out. I turned on beginner clubs so I could at least experience the course and not hit every other ball OB. It was fun to play like that. More like the first version of the game. I didn't know there was a beginners club flight, so when I discovered that I joined. At one point last season I went through Q-school and qualified for CC-A with Pro clubs. Did well my first tournament (3rd I think) but then started having tempo issues again and got frustrated, so I returned to BCT. Honestly, this flight is full of people that were once at the top of this game at various times. Either they don't like the tempo swing or just enjoy this style more or whatever other reason. There are those here like yourself just getting started too. I understand the frustration, but I have no interest in moving up to other flights. BCT is Beginner CLUB tour because it is the club set used. It's not indicative of skill or player experience. If you are interested in getting better and moving up to a different flight at some point, you'll need to use a different club set eventually. Something like CC-Z is going to have a lot more players that are just beginning with the game than the BCT, but that will require you to play with Pro clubs. I don't know you or anything about you. You only have a few posts so far and they come across as pretty unfriendly. Just my opinion, but maybe get to know some people or check out some of the streams or ask for some tips/advice. There are a ton of events going on here outside of the regular tours. Join some societies and work on your game if that's important to you. I'd be happy to share what I know about this game, and there are others with a lot more knowledge and skill than me that do the same. If you want, I can play a round and record it to talk about how I set up shots and what I am thinking through as I go. Up to you though. I learned this game that way watching a few others and asking a few questions. The rest of it is repetition and practice. I don't think I'm 'so good' - I just like to play the game and have been doing so since 2015. I like the camaraderie of this tour more than the competitive tours. I don't think I ever come on here bragging about my abilities though. If it comes across like that, it's not my intent. If I'm talking about my rounds I might mention the shots I missed, even if I scored pretty well, because I'm competitive and want to be perfect and those are the shots I remember. Maybe talk to the admin about splitting the BCT into those that want to use beginner clubs and those that are truly beginning the game? I doubt they will do that, but it might be worth a discussion. As I mentioned above, the tiers starting with CC-Z are all designed for player progression as they improve. BCT players have no chance to move up to another level. Victor is a good person to discuss this with because he does a bunch of sh%$ for this community and could affect some change.
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Post by yaters on Sept 9, 2019 22:58:32 GMT -5
Closed Season 5 with an ace on hole 2, opened season 6 with an ace on Hole 9... I wonder if this is the first ace of the season? Anyways, opened with a -12 59. Putter started hot- putts on 1 and 2 of 19 and 26 feet, respectively. After being -7 thru 9, though, a three putt bogey on 11 slowed the momentum. Still, I'm very happy with that as a season opener! First, great shot! Second, screw you and all your HIO's - I haven't had one in an official event in maybe 2 years! Third, I can't believe how much nicer this game looks on PC (PC right?). I shouldn't be surprised, but what a difference. I felt like I was playing in some Lord of the Rings scene and yours looked all crisp and clear. I texted my wife and asked her about getting a gaming PC. Now I'm down in the basement watching TV because that didn't go over so well....
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Post by yaters on Sept 9, 2019 23:05:10 GMT -5
Well I was -19 playing the 16th R2, got a wonky swing line, missed the green right and rolled down toward the road. I was on the fairway and still inside the fence so no worries, right? WRONG! HB decided I was OB, I ended up taking a double and then got screwed by a 10 MPH headwind that did nothing that led to par on 17. Should have been -21 after 2, instead was -17 ... played the rest of the tourney just under the boil while HB continued to fist me with balls that stayed on wrong levels, lip outs and putts that broke way more/less than it looked like they should. -29 when the dust settled which will be a crap finish. I'll say I love the course with the angles and positioning and strategy. That being said, It wasn't set up for BCT in mind and really gave us some awkward yardages and carries. Can't fault the designer on that, put part and parcel of being stuck in the same society as the CC-Am guys instead of having our own society where we could really tailor the course setup to suit beginner yardage (See: Kingdom, The). I can't even pin the OB snafu on the architect b/c, if any of you have tried putting OB in on a course, it's like trying to make a marble sculpture with a jackhammer -- just zero ability to control the fine detail. Betting it didn't even show up as OB in the designer. So, yeah, I'm walking a little funny after this one. Luckily I'll have a week to heal before I tee it up again. Good luck to those who have yet to play. You should have it ... I had to have used up all the bad luck that course has to offer! Sorry about all that Mr. Mayo. Was a funny read though. This brings up a really interesting thing. Why isn't there a separate society for this tier? I know that would be more work and more ranger work and more back-end work etc, etc. But there's enough people to make that happen, no? And there are certainly enough people making courses to fill up a season for us. Who has enough of a big driver to make this happen? Maybe something that can be discussed for if/when the next game comes out? It would be nice to tailor courses (see Kingdom, The) for this club set. I personally love courses that are risk/reward, especially on Par 5's when you have to decide if that 2-wood is getting over that creek or if your drive can clear the rough. I think the courses we play have a lot of this, but it's designed for the Pro club distances in most cases. Just a thought.
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mayday_golf83
TGCT Design Competition Directors
Posts: 2,279
TGCT Name: Jeremy Mayo
Tour: Elite
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Post by mayday_golf83 on Sept 9, 2019 23:35:39 GMT -5
Well I was -19 playing the 16th R2, got a wonky swing line, missed the green right and rolled down toward the road. I was on the fairway and still inside the fence so no worries, right? WRONG! HB decided I was OB, I ended up taking a double and then got screwed by a 10 MPH headwind that did nothing that led to par on 17. Should have been -21 after 2, instead was -17 ... played the rest of the tourney just under the boil while HB continued to fist me with balls that stayed on wrong levels, lip outs and putts that broke way more/less than it looked like they should. -29 when the dust settled which will be a crap finish. I'll say I love the course with the angles and positioning and strategy. That being said, It wasn't set up for BCT in mind and really gave us some awkward yardages and carries. Can't fault the designer on that, put part and parcel of being stuck in the same society as the CC-Am guys instead of having our own society where we could really tailor the course setup to suit beginner yardage (See: Kingdom, The). I can't even pin the OB snafu on the architect b/c, if any of you have tried putting OB in on a course, it's like trying to make a marble sculpture with a jackhammer -- just zero ability to control the fine detail. Betting it didn't even show up as OB in the designer. So, yeah, I'm walking a little funny after this one. Luckily I'll have a week to heal before I tee it up again. Good luck to those who have yet to play. You should have it ... I had to have used up all the bad luck that course has to offer! Sorry about all that Mr. Mayo. Was a funny read though. This brings up a really interesting thing. Why isn't there a separate society for this tier? I know that would be more work and more ranger work and more back-end work etc, etc. But there's enough people to make that happen, no? And there are certainly enough people making courses to fill up a season for us. Who has enough of a big driver to make this happen? Maybe something that can be discussed for if/when the next game comes out? It would be nice to tailor courses (see Kingdom, The) for this club set. I personally love courses that are risk/reward, especially on Par 5's when you have to decide if that 2-wood is getting over that creek or if your drive can clear the rough. I think the courses we play have a lot of this, but it's designed for the Pro club distances in most cases. Just a thought. I believe the biggest hurdle would be having HB give TGCT another society in game (we already have 7 if my math’s right — five main tour levels plus special events & TST). I’m sure there would be some admin work on the back end that would have to happen too. I’m also a proponent of making this tour like TST where you could play it and the regular tours simultaneously if you wished. Seems like biggest obstacle to clear there is that this tour is currently the recourse players have to take if they want to “reset” their career and redo Q-school, so there would likely need to be a different alternative there before BCT be treated like TST.
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Post by yaters on Sept 10, 2019 0:24:02 GMT -5
Yeah all that makes sense. Maybe the next game will allow TGCTours some more options (thought history hasn't necessarily pointed to them doing us any favors).
The Ryder Cup event was amazing. It felt like we were a legit tour because of that. I'd love to just see more of it.
Like why not have a BCT member of the year in the year end rewards?
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Post by katana22 on Sept 10, 2019 1:44:32 GMT -5
Glad you are here Mr. positive so if you think your so good with on the BCT why dont you move up to the next tier or whatever ? im sick of people saying oh i missed a shot here of there but still shooting -50 or -60 , this was my gripe i bought up with VictoryLane, your CLEARLY good enough to play on other tours yet your on the BCT cup while guys like me and others trying to get better scores but seing you and other shoot insane scores is of putting I'll try and come from this from a total noob/new player angle. When I 1st bought this game it was going to be a game that I just played by myself, but as a result of trying to learn how to play the game by watching a ton of you tube vids I found this site and community, so without to much research I thought I'll give this and saw BEGINNERS club tour and thought that's where I belong, without reading about talent level that I might expect to find, boy was I in for a surprise. My 1st tournament I shot 72 69 71 77 (+1) and finished T32, to cut a long story short I decided to watch everything thing I could, by watching vids, searching the forums here and elsewhere and then finally when I felt more comfortable asking others about how to improve my game, so I to might be able to compete with the big boys on BCT. fast forward to the end of this season and I had won an event and even got asked to a captain of for the BCT cup. My point here being that even thou I had hadn't played a golf sim in over 10 years and being a total noob when I started is that anything is possible if you just put your mind to it, just ask the guys in the this community they really will and want to help, all you have to do is ask and remember you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I do feel that it is time thou for me to move up in the ranks and see how I can perform on the regular tours, so I'm going to join q-school and see just how well or more than likely bad I play with Pro clubs, I'll probably see you again soon knowing my luck, anyway good luck guys I hope you all shoot low.
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Post by welikeitroughnc on Sept 10, 2019 7:17:07 GMT -5
Decided to take time away for a few days and come back this morning and try to shake the rust off, ho hum first round with two bogies 😙
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grey3eard
Weekend Golfer
I am a Grandad in his early fifties who enjoys playing video game golf!
Posts: 98
TGCT Name: Mark Hale
Tour: Beer League
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Post by grey3eard on Sept 10, 2019 7:55:02 GMT -5
Decided to take time away for a few days and come back this morning and try to shake the rust off, ho hum first round with two bogies 😙 16 birdies to go with them Mitch, great shooting.....#onfire
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