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Post by mde8965 on Aug 6, 2019 6:17:04 GMT -5
If people are shooting in the -30's and considering it average - I'd say clearly you didn't make it hard enough rob4590
Yes, there are holes where the only consideration should be avoiding disaster, but there are loads and loads of birdies out there and clearly people are finding them.
ps - what the hell are people doing @ 16?
It's a Sand Wedge/Lob Wedge to a target that's about 6 yards deep? Pretend the water isn't there, I'd be pretty hacked if I was outside 10 feet with a Wedge in my hand. To make a 9 or 10 you'd have to hit 3/4 bad tempos in a row or get your maths severely wrong several times in a row? Re 16th. Try a 5wood or 2i off the tee followed by a full swing sand wedge or lob wedge (you can stop those even on VF/VF. Or if you are lucky and manage to go 3w off the tee and your ball stopped just short of the shite then you could have as little as 46yds as much as 63. For the former a slightly delofted flop. For the latter a slightly lofted pitch. Just pray no fast or slow downswings. That’s what happened to me in rd 3. Slow DS from 65yds caused the ball to go right and long. Rolled off the green and down the hill to the right. Tried to chip up onto the green but came up short and ended up with the ball at my feet. So tried longer chip and had fast downswing and the ball went far and off the green other side. Sand flopped up followed by 2 putts carded me a 7. Awesome. You are talking about the 320ish us hole with the green surrounded by water in front? Hell now that I’m done playing it’s all a blur.
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Post by AFCTUJacko on Aug 6, 2019 6:20:52 GMT -5
If people are shooting in the -30's and considering it average - I'd say clearly you didn't make it hard enough rob4590
Yes, there are holes where the only consideration should be avoiding disaster, but there are loads and loads of birdies out there and clearly people are finding them.
ps - what the hell are people doing @ 16?
It's a Sand Wedge/Lob Wedge to a target that's about 6 yards deep? Pretend the water isn't there, I'd be pretty hacked if I was outside 10 feet with a Wedge in my hand. To make a 9 or 10 you'd have to hit 3/4 bad tempos in a row or get your maths severely wrong several times in a row? Re 16th. Try a 5wood or 2i off the tee followed by a full swing sand wedge or lob wedge. You are talking about the 320ish us hole with the green surrounded by water in front? Hell now that I’m done playing it’s all a blur. Think that is 15.
16 is the really short Par 3 with the waterfall in the background
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Post by fadgewacker on Aug 6, 2019 6:31:13 GMT -5
Re 16th. Try a 5wood or 2i off the tee followed by a full swing sand wedge or lob wedge. You are talking about the 320ish us hole with the green surrounded by water in front? Hell now that I’m done playing it’s all a blur. Think that is 15.
16 is the really short Par 3 with the waterfall in the background
Yup - Delofted a lob wedge in 3 rounds and lofted a sand wedge in the other... Thankfully no tempo issues...
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Post by mde8965 on Aug 6, 2019 6:32:12 GMT -5
Re 16th. Try a 5wood or 2i off the tee followed by a full swing sand wedge or lob wedge. You are talking about the 320ish us hole with the green surrounded by water in front? Hell now that I’m done playing it’s all a blur. Think that is 15.
16 is the really short Par 3 with the waterfall in the background
Told you it was a blur. For that hole it’s either a lob wedge (94yds delofted a bit or lofted sand wedge 108). If pin is center near the yellow red running left I aimed about 4 yds right and 3yds short of the hole. Pin left aim just at the fringe and pray. On the right side I went right at it 2yds short. In 3 of the 4 rounds I was within 2ft for birdie. One round where the pin was left I swung too fast causing a 95% hit and got wet. Hit again from the tee and landed it 5ft away and sunk the putt for bogie. The biggest issue is a fast or slow DS. So if you are having issues I would just aim for just the front edge of green in center and then just pay attention to tempo more than a straight hit.
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Post by frank70 on Aug 6, 2019 6:49:29 GMT -5
Re 16th. Try a 5wood or 2i off the tee followed by a full swing sand wedge or lob wedge. You are talking about the 320ish us hole with the green surrounded by water in front? Hell now that I’m done playing it’s all a blur. Think that is 15.
16 is the really short Par 3 with the waterfall in the background
I did take the drop option and had a very awkward yardage (~80 yards). Hit a fully lofted LW ... long in the water. Then i tried a pitch on the shallow green. Suceeded with the 2nd try. Two putted for the 9.
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Post by Generic_Casual on Aug 6, 2019 6:56:16 GMT -5
Just be like me.
Hit the green.
2-putt par.
From 4 feet.
Twice.
Easy.
😂😂
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Post by rob4590 on Aug 6, 2019 7:05:46 GMT -5
AFCTUJacko - no more mister nice guy from me in my next course design.....this was clearly too easy. Or you can blame Dale for being to soft on us all (or more likely he didn't want to hear all the whines if it was set up hard) Generic_Casual - my US Open contest conditions had two rounds with VH wind, one with High and one medium - even Rawesy would have struggled (to break 60) in those conditions Pity the poor judges who had to play in those conditions Mind you - the pre-tournament weather forecast was crap anyway - those predicted high winds never appeared at all........I demand a re-run of the entire event in correct conditions next week (to give me a shot at actually making the cut on my own course!) I am utterly gobsmacked at the scoring average on 16 (108yd par 3) though - so be assured there will be a similar hole next time too!!! I'd guess people forgot to go back to the tee when going in the water - and it can indeed give some hideous areas to drop at times if you don't do that! Try playing that hole in a VH crosswind too....... 15 (330 par 4) - you just need to lay up as far back as possible to ensure a full shot in (specifically to the front pin, where a pitch is unlikely to stay on the green - and will thus be wet!) - I think I hit 3i three times, and either 5i or 6i on the front pin day - left myself 100-110yds for the 2nd shot - think I birdied it 3 times, and par on day 1. Also worth thinking what angle you want into the pin each time..... The course is all about course management throughout (unless you have the ball on a piece of string, which I certainly don't!) - even though everyone (or specifically gavlaar124 ) has claimed it's too long - there is only actually one par 4 over the claimed 540yds, and 3 others over 500yds.... no need to hit driver a lot here....
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Post by auldy on Aug 6, 2019 7:22:12 GMT -5
16 has no drop zone, absolutely mental.
Edit, i dont no how to get back to the tee lol so I hacked it from behind stands into the water several times for something to do.
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Post by GW_Hope on Aug 6, 2019 7:22:15 GMT -5
AFCTUJacko - no more mister nice guy from me in my next course design.....this was clearly too easy. Or you can blame Dale for being to soft on us all (or more likely he didn't want to hear all the whines if it was set up hard) Generic_Casual - my US Open contest conditions had two rounds with VH wind, one with High and one medium - even Rawesy would have struggled (to break 60) in those conditions Pity the poor judges who had to play in those conditions Mind you - the pre-tournament weather forecast was crap anyway - those predicted high winds never appeared at all........I demand a re-run of the entire event in correct conditions next week (to give me a shot at actually making the cut on my own course!) I am utterly gobsmacked at the scoring average on 16 (108yd par 3) though - so be assured there will be a similar hole next time too!!! I'd guess people forgot to go back to the tee when going in the water - and it can indeed give some hideous areas to drop at times if you don't do that! Try playing that hole in a VH crosswind too....... 15 (330 par 4) - you just need to lay up as far back as possible to ensure a full shot in (specifically to the front pin, where a pitch is unlikely to stay on the green - and will thus be wet!) - I think I hit 3i three times, and either 5i or 6i on the front pin day - left myself 100-110yds for the 2nd shot - think I birdied it 3 times, and par on day 1. Also worth thinking what angle you want into the pin each time..... The course is all about course management throughout (unless you have the ball on a piece of string, which I certainly don't!) - even though everyone (or specifically gavlaar124 ) has claimed it's too long - there is only actually one par 4 over the claimed 540yds, and 3 others over 500yds.... no need to hit driver a lot here.... Too late, thanks for nothing I took a 10 on 15 when a Land of the Lost overgrown bush was in my way. Worst part was I made a miracle pitch through the bush and land on green only to roll off the side into water then the real hell began on the drop.
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Post by rob4590 on Aug 6, 2019 7:47:47 GMT -5
16 has no drop zone, absolutely mental. Edit, i dont no how to get back to the tee lol so I hacked it from behind stands into the water several times for something to do. There is no such thing in the designer as a drop zone, no way to set one in the designer, indeed no way sometimes to figure out why the game decides you will drop in a certain spot at all based on the rules of golf. To replay - it's either the B button or the right bumper (on an Xbox controller) to switch between the given area to drop and the replay shot option.
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Post by auldy on Aug 6, 2019 7:51:05 GMT -5
Thanks rob.
Weird theres no drop zone options in the creater.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 6, 2019 8:39:34 GMT -5
Pretty much two shots did me in on round one. I played some amazing shots. I mean they really felt good, ball hit where I was expecting, used the countours of the green to get a reasonable putt. Sure I missed 8 footers, one for eagle and one for birdie, so that stung a bit, but I was hitting well. Well that is until I wasn't. Put one tee shot in a gully. First time I was over there in all my rounds I had practiced. Decided to do the sensible thing and just get it out into the fairway. Went down to a 6 iron to just advance it back to the fairway. Nope...apparently hit a bush and just got the last yard of grass before the fair way and it bounced back down into the gully. Still scrambled for a good double. The other one was the par four with the stream bisecting the fairway. No problem to get it over, right? It is if you hit 95%. Water. Okay only 234 yards out, pull out 225 iron...hit a fast downswing and it goes long and into the water again. I think I was -5 at this point, with a bogey already. Made a good run at the final few holes to bring it back to -4 including a chip in on 18. I mean hell, I hit the pin on #1 for a tap in birdie,I even flopped in for a birdie on #7 and nearly holed it out on the last par 3 with that sand trap protecting the flag for a birdie, so I was hitting some shots. It is a round of what could have been. Dropped 3 to four strokes on two stupid shots and another two on just leaving the ball short on a fairly simple putt. Even getting half those strokes back would be considered a good round. -4 gives me just ENOUGH hope that I MIGHT make the cut with a heck of a next round. We'll see. For once, I can't blame the course for anything in particular. I got an unlucky clip off a bush but I was in a bad spot and it was my fault for being there. I didn't play with aggression. I course managed and made a chip/flop that I probably shouldn't have made. Overall I'm satisified on a tough course.
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Post by Brighttail on Aug 6, 2019 11:08:20 GMT -5
Second round I played bogey free and a -9. Had chances to get a couple more but I erred on trying to ensure no bogeys. I'm happy with it. -13 apparently puts me currently top of the leaderboard on PC, so I'm HOPING that is enough to make the cut and allow me to move on to next week. Honestly I Have no idea what the cut will be on this course cause it can be attacked and it can kill ya.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 15:41:11 GMT -5
Took a practice at the 3rd round. Cruised around in -14 Felt like I knew all the shots required and with basically no wind the tnmnt 3rd round should play out the same. Ofcourse it didn't, swing was the same but not the results. Rage metre at the limit on the front 9 as I could only manage 1 under par. Gave the game a talking to on the back 9 and whipped in 7 birdies for 8 under. Didn't seem too bad in the end but a hell of a long way off -14.
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Post by B.Smooth13 on Aug 6, 2019 15:51:28 GMT -5
One of these does not look like the other...
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