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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 16:04:40 GMT -5
+10.5 here
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Post by steelereign on Dec 22, 2014 18:51:07 GMT -5
+6.6 for me
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Post by schatuk on Dec 23, 2014 2:24:11 GMT -5
After a 74 on Kodiak mine has shot up from +2.8 to +9.1. Go figure
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Post by Sassy Lady on Dec 23, 2014 18:02:08 GMT -5
It's not what you shot in Q-school. It's what you shot since the update. You have to play 5 rated courses and your handicap is based on that. It seems like it's working fine to me. I can't remember the scores but one of the rounds was truly horrid. Like 81 or 82. Handicap index after 5 was 9.5. Played another round on Alcona [sp?] and got a 68. Handicap went down to 4.4. Until you've played 20 rounds on rated courses, you can pretty much ignore your handicap as it's going to fluctuate quite a bit. After that, it will calculate your handicap based on your 10 best scores of your last 20 rounds on rated courses and adjust it for each course based upon the course rating. If you play on a non-rated course, it shouldn't do anything to your handicap but it will still compile data on that course until there are 200 plays at which point it will have figured the rating of the course and the hardest holes in order for the stroke index of each hole.
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Post by schatuk on Dec 23, 2014 19:00:47 GMT -5
I shot that 74 on Kodiak yesterday. It was the first score I'd posted AFTER the 5 rounds to generate h'cap which had started at a far more realistic +2.8. God I wish I'd shot 74 in Q-school but that's by the by. My point is that I finished gross +2, net +5 or 6, I can't quite remember and my handicap DROPPED 6 points. My average score is something like +1 or +2 so how come I have to give NINE shots back? It makes no sense.
To add to the entertainment, I shot 62 on Loch Lorne tonight and my handicap ROSE 3 points. Hmmm.
All that said, I think the point about ignoring the handicap for at least 20 rounds is a sound one, so I shall.
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Post by Orion on Dec 23, 2014 19:11:46 GMT -5
well, after playing pinelakes, it gave me an updated handicap of +101  played anther course and had to give up 134 strokes back......but dont worry, i did record that round. I'm not sure that I understand this handicap system. I have noticed a lot of you guys would humiliate me if we played head to head score wise. I ended up with a +3.3 and I played both easy and hard courses with scores of 89 to 76. I understand that the courses ranking and all of that play into it, no way am I a +3 by any means, more like a 18-23 (as I am in real life). :-/I am assuming that I get 3 holes per round |
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Post by clayg3 on Dec 23, 2014 21:06:11 GMT -5
ok here it is how is this
the oaks at Westchester -6 66
wentworth lakes -5 67
the brabazon at the belfry -11 61
great tottington -4 68
black brook -10 62
hdcp 9.1
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Post by Sassy Lady on Dec 23, 2014 23:01:49 GMT -5
Handicap is rather simple once you get your head wrapped around it. Getting the head around it is the problem because it's complex for people who don't understand it.
You are assigned a number from 38 (I think) to + whatever. Tiger Woods' handicap is +8. Which means he has to gets 8 strokes added to his round in handicap play. A number without a + is considered a negative number although they don't put the negative sign in front of it.
Each hole on a rated course has a stroke index. You get 1 stroke taken off of each hole that has a stroke index that is equal or lower than your handicap. If you have a + number you get a stroke added. If your handicap is more than 18 or more than 9 on a 9 hole course you get 1 stroke taken off of each hole. And 1 more on some holes.
Let's say your handicap is 22. You get 1 stroke taken off of each hole. And on the holes with a stroke index of 1 to 4 you get an extra stroke taken off for a total of 2 strokes on those holes. There are also calculations based upon the course ratings which I still don't fully understand. But suffice it to say, it works, for the most part.'
Not saying it works in The Golf Club, but it works in real life.
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Post by Mitchblue on Dec 24, 2014 1:46:33 GMT -5
I wish they would have said it will take many many rounds for the hcp to normalize rather than just getting one after just 5 rounds. I shouldn't be +6.7 based on any round for any course. I guess I wasn't hoping it to be correct right off the bat..
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Post by joegolferg on Dec 30, 2014 5:17:04 GMT -5
+7 at the moment, was +8.
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Rhaegar99
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Post by Rhaegar99 on Dec 30, 2014 8:44:12 GMT -5
+3.1 for me but, then again, I'm on the Champion's (consolation) tour  |
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Post by Sassy Lady on Dec 30, 2014 9:53:50 GMT -5
Playing to a +8 handicap after 20+ rounds. Working well as I am scoring mostly 74 - 78 nett scores. 74 - to 78 scores and you have a +8? Are you sure it isn't just an 8? Having a +8 means you get 8 strokes added each round. An 8 means you get 8 strokes taken away.
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Post by Oblong on Dec 30, 2014 11:10:26 GMT -5
I am happy to see that handicaps are not part of TGCT, though I would have no qualms if ya'll wanted to offer some optional tourneys "just for fun" to those who do.
My big question on handicaps, and why I don't think they will work in a video gaming format for golf, is what is the upside to having a low handicap?
The only answer I can think of is "bragging rights" or to get your name on a Low Handicap leaderboard. If there is something I am missing, I would love to hear.
So based on the assumption that this is the only reason to have a low handicap, compared to the upside of having a higher handicap (scoring well in handicap tourneys, playing w/friends with hc's on) then I can foresee that there can't help but be a tendency to tank a round in the latter holes if you are not chasing a record, in a tournament, just playing for fun, etc. At least that has been my early experience. I have about 10 rounds to my handicap of +10. I played a round chasing the course record, had a bad hole, and proceeded to rush through my final 4 holes to just get the round over. I saw my handicap drop to +9 afterwards and the light bulb went off that will help make me more competitive if I enter a handicap tourney. I see many complaining that their handicaps are too low and they could never shoot even par (adjusted) with what they have. Seems easy enough to fix if a player wanted. With that happening how will having handicaps even mean anything?
I don't play club golf so I would be interested if this type of sandbagging is equally prevalent IRL and if so, what measures they utilize to deal with it.
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Post by Sassy Lady on Dec 30, 2014 21:35:04 GMT -5
Oops. My bad.
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Post by parttime on Dec 30, 2014 22:31:01 GMT -5
20+ rounds and Hc seems to be stable at 5.5 . ESC seems to work well as I have had a couple of trainwreck rounds without being penalized, lol.
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played anther course and had to give up 134 strokes back......but dont worry, i did record that round.
