Approach shot

[Errol1967]

Im still having issues with approach shots from tee or from fairway to green.
My biggest issue are those side and crosswind. Im still way to far of the hole or in the rough near the fairway. How do you calculate those sidewinds? If I look at some ghost it makes me jealous. I wanna get closer to the pin, wich for me is most of the time impossible with strong winds and even with low winds.
If there is someone who can explain me in simple english how to swing those shots, I will be very happy. Im feeling like the worse player of this game and makes me sad...lol. 
With head and tail I have most of the time no issues.

Kind regards.

[rhino4life]

I too am looking for a little guidance in this area. Thanks in advance.

[TimB]

Here is a thread by Doyley that can help. Click the link in there "tips and tricks".

tgctours.proboards.com/thread/963/tgct-tricks-approach-chipping-putting


Then at the bottom the approach tab. It should give you an idea. Direct link below

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aLqTCfuGEoHaUgYP5i6pa6OKMn9GP1p_C_rteWb1s8E/edit#gid=601884872


I've played enough rounds (close to 2000) and know what the wind will do to my ball. I can just crank the marker and can tell by where it is whether its right or not. It's like I can "see the line" But because I suffer from a pretty bad fade that evolves into a bad slice on bad days I will use my own little click routine that way I can back up if my fade is bad, instead of 5 clicks for example, I will back up to 3 etc...

I used to do a mix of aiming and draw or fade but with the natural fade/slice I have if I use the shot shaper too much I wind up too far offline. It's funny, my putting is the best part of my game. I can sink 30+ footers a lot and almost expect to sink anything under 20 feet all the time. I got that way because my approach shots were so far offline that I had to scramble with these huge 30-40 foot putts to hope to get a birdie. Except this week where I was the lip out king on Barefoot Dye. I triple bogied the 3'rd hole 1'st round. It was comical, putting back and forth 5 times.

[rhino4life]

I seen those tips but it really did not address the angled winds. I know a lot of this is "by feel" and it will take some time to get used to. I too have left my fair share of strokes out on the course. In the meantime I guess I need to be a surgeon on these 20+ footers I'm giving myself.

[Errol1967]

Aug 2, 2016 10:12:28 GMT -5 TimB said:

Here is a thread by Doyley that can help. Click the link in there "tips and tricks".

tgctours.proboards.com/thread/963/tgct-tricks-approach-chipping-putting


Then at the bottom the approach tab. It should give you an idea. Direct link below

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aLqTCfuGEoHaUgYP5i6pa6OKMn9GP1p_C_rteWb1s8E/edit#gid=601884872


I've played enough rounds (close to 2000) and know what the wind will do to my ball. I can just crank the marker and can tell by where it is whether its right or not. It's like I can "see the line" But because I suffer from a pretty bad fade that evolves into a bad slice on bad days I will use my own little click routine that way I can back up if my fade is bad, instead of 5 clicks for example, I will back up to 3 etc...

I used to do a mix of aiming and draw or fade but with the natural fade/slice I have if I use the shot shaper too much I wind up too far offline. It's funny, my putting is the best part of my game. I can sink 30+ footers a lot and almost expect to sink anything under 20 feet all the time. I got that way because my approach shots were so far offline that I had to scramble with these huge 30-40 foot putts to hope to get a birdie. Except this week where I was the lip out king on Barefoot Dye. I triple bogied the 3'rd hole 1'st round. It was comical, putting back and forth 5 times.

Yeah I know that thread and google doc, but my problem is adjusting my swing to wind. Lets say I have crosswind like 17 against me, blowing from the northeast to southwest. How you do the clicks, I usually do 17 clicks to the right, but most of the time its not even close. On headwind I calculate 1.5 times, so if it is 17 wind from the west to east, I do around 25 clicks to the left, but also no luck.

Also some clubs do need more adjustments and some stick and some not. Thats something I dont know either.

[stratofortressNL]

I do when I have northeast 12, I do 24 clicks to the left.

[TimB]

ok thought we were talking about direct crosswind. Guess that chart doesn't really cover the angled winds much from my quick look at it.

Try this then. If its 17mph wind coming from Northeast like you say (2pm position) click twice that. Also bear in mind wind above 14mph the effect on the ball is increased dramatically. So you have 17 times 2 gives you 34. Then with the hurricane add say maybe 7 more clicks.

Wags had a big post around here that explains how he manages the wind,...goes to see if I can find it.

tgctours.proboards.com/post/133635/thread

[Errol1967]

Aug 2, 2016 10:43:14 GMT -5 TimB said:

ok thought we were talking about direct crosswind. Guess that chart doesn't really cover the angled winds much from my quick look at it.

Try this then. If its 17mph wind coming from Northeast like you say (2pm position) click twice that. Also bear in mind wind above 14mph the effect on the ball is increased dramatically. So you have 17 times 2 gives you 34. Then with the hurricane add say maybe 7 more clicks.

Wags had a big post around here that explains how he manages the wind,...goes to see if I can find it.

tgctours.proboards.com/post/133635/thread

Yeah I know that thread also and not gonna get any closer. I dunno what the problem is...I suk that bad, I have also loads of offswings lately to left or right when I want my shot to go straight. Maybe I need new controller, its almost three years old.

[Generic_Casual]

Just slam that stupid little stick forward as hard as you can. The quicker you do it, the straighter the shot.

Edit: I'm not making this up. It's how I swing. I also work the ball into the wind or with the wind. Depends on my lie angle left/right and up/down. But, I'm no Sweeney.

I figure 1 box of draw/fade equates to a shade over 12 yards. Can't be bothered with exacting it. Maybe somebody can correct me.

Also, it still comes down to putting. I feel pretty comfortable on putts from 40 feet and in. You either miss or make. Lol.

Sorry, I'm trying to help.

Edit 2: I don't think I've EVER hit a straight shot. Hell, I set a fade/draw on most pitch shots. Lol.

[Macs Power]

This is the method I use: 1 draw/fade "box" is equal to 14mph side wind, so if you have 7mph left-to-right wind you take a half-square draw. If you have 45° wind you take 70% of the value (just do basic trigonometry). There are some minor adjustments after checking the lie and the time the ball is in the air.
That should cover the side winds. Hope this helps !

[Generic_Casual]

Aug 2, 2016 13:20:27 GMT -5 Macs Power said:

This is the method I use: 1 draw/fade "box" is equal to 14mph side wind, so if you have 7mph left-to-right wind you take a half-square draw. If you have 45° wind you take 70% of the value (just do basic trigonometry). There are some minor adjustments after checking the lie and the time the ball is in the air.
That should cover the side winds. Hope this helps !

Meh. I was close enough.

Lol.

[rhino4life]

Good resources and advice ladies.... I am seeing light bulbs going off in my head while soaking all this up and hopefully this will pay some dividends for my next few rounds in Myrtle Beach.

[Generic_Casual]

Aug 2, 2016 14:56:15 GMT -5 rhino4life said:

Good resources and advice ladies.... I am seeing light bulbs going off in my head while soaking all this up and hopefully this will pay some dividends for my next few rounds in Myrtle Beach.

My brain exploded when I realized what my 'straight' shot was. If I'm playing good, my 'straight' shot is a slight pull. I've came a long ways since February. I've used a ton of useful tips from a lot of players here. If only my putter could be like it was in Round 1 of The Traveler's all the time.

[BillySastard976]

For me,a crosswind from ne to sw,of say 12 mph is calculated as a 6 mph from e to w,so half a box,as I reckon one box equals 12 mph. I halve the number.

look closely though.If that wind isn't quite ne to sw,but even slightly off in one direction or the other,it makes a difference to the calculation. Practice is the only way to get a real feel for it.

It that 12 mph is a headwind,ne to sw,I add 12 yards to the distance,subtract around 8 if its a tailwind. Normally,shooting into a direct headwind of 12 mph,n to s,would be calculated as 18 yards extra.

[Errol1967]

Tnx for the replies all. If I look at the big guys on PGA, they never use those clicks, but they just look at the greens.
Does those blocks on the greens also have a calculation depending on the wind?
Im very curious about this one.