Call for Promotion guidelines to be revamped

[ABU_Bear]

The rule as it stands right now states the following for the Challenge Circuit


While using a Sponsor's Exemption on the Challenge Circuit, you finish in the top 70 of all participants in the flight and within 10 strokes of the top Exemption participant in the flight.


I feel this should be changed to "you finish above the demotion strike line and within 10 strokes of the top Exemption participant in the flight "


I don't think it is entirely fair for the players currently occupying cards in a certain tier to earn a strike while others from a lower tier are earning promotions because they are on exemption.

Thoughts?


**remember to answer the poll question**

[curtmantle]

As I said in the other thread I think the whole 10 shot rule is flawed. Surely when gaining a promotion you should be compared with the players in the flight you're trying to join not other people on exemption? It also leaves you at the mercy of someone tearing up the course.

If you're on exemption and finish above the exemption/clear strikes line (or some other percentage) you've done enough regardless of how far you've finished behind the top exemption.

But anyway, I agree, the 70 figure seems arbitrary and should be changed to be "above the demotion strike line".

note: I will try and make this post the last time I go on about this.

[ABU_Bear]

Jun 21, 2016 7:11:34 GMT -5 curtmantle said:

As I said in the other thread I think the whole 10 shot rule is flawed. Surely when gaining a promotion you should be compared with the players in the flight you're trying to join not other people on exemption? It also leaves you at the mercy of someone tearing up the course.

If you're on exemption and finish above the exemption/clear strikes line (or some other percentage) you've done enough regardless of how far you've finished behind the top exemption.

But anyway, I agree, the 70 figure seems arbitrary and should be changed to be "above the demotion strike line".

note: I will try and make this post the last time I go on about this.

I think it's something that needs to be discussed. It's not a rant..it's actually a flaw in the system that needs to be corrected. Why reward failure? Imagine being the person who earns his 3rd strike and is demoted while scoring better than the guy who earned his promotion card. That's not right at all

[iain187]

I think maybe the SE players who earn a card and finish below the strike line should get their card and a strike... If they go up a tier before they are ready that will only expedite their return

If they are good enough they still have 2 chances to clear it off


Edit - there is a guy on SE this week on the B card with a strike, surely by earning an exemption he cleared his strike... Presume this is a bug?

[garyg]

I agree, I once finished in the top 10-15 while on exemption but didn't earn my card as someone else on exemption won the tournament by about 7 shots.

This past week I earned a card on CC-A while half way down the leaderboard, simply because no one else who was on exemption did anything special.

It seems odd to me to compare players to others who are on exemption, in my opinion they should be compared to the people currently on the tour they're playing in.

[mde8965]

Jun 21, 2016 7:11:34 GMT -5 curtmantle said:

As I said in the other thread I think the whole 10 shot rule is flawed. Surely when gaining a promotion you should be compared with the players in the flight you're trying to join not other people on exemption? It also leaves you at the mercy of someone tearing up the course.

If you're on exemption and finish above the exemption/clear strikes line (or some other percentage) you've done enough regardless of how far you've finished behind the top exemption.

But anyway, I agree, the 70 figure seems arbitrary and should be changed to be "above the demotion strike line".

note: I will try and make this post the last time I go on about this.

I would agree with this as the most equitable solution to the problem. 

[Bacon]

Jun 21, 2016 11:46:48 GMT -5 mde8965 said:

Jun 21, 2016 7:11:34 GMT -5 curtmantle said:

As I said in the other thread I think the whole 10 shot rule is flawed. Surely when gaining a promotion you should be compared with the players in the flight you're trying to join not other people on exemption? It also leaves you at the mercy of someone tearing up the course.

If you're on exemption and finish above the exemption/clear strikes line (or some other percentage) you've done enough regardless of how far you've finished behind the top exemption.

But anyway, I agree, the 70 figure seems arbitrary and should be changed to be "above the demotion strike line".

note: I will try and make this post the last time I go on about this.

I would agree with this as the most equitable solution to the problem. 

I also agree. And I would suggest anyone on SE who finishes below the strike line not earn the higher tier card that week, regardless of how they compare with other SEs.

[Doyley]

Thanks for the suggestions guys - had a mini-discussion behind the scences w/ admin and coders - we'll look to put this in place asap. I agree it cleans it up much of the confusion and I'm all for things being defined by the visible cutlines on the leaderboards.

Once it's officially in I'll post a notice on the forum and update the policy page. Timing is all dependent on our coders free time - no ETA as of yet.


ABU_Bear

[TimB]

Yeah hopefully they dont have the time this week. Lol

Im in A on exemption and shot a decent score.-34

Im more confident on getting my card on the merrits of my score rather than a 50% demotion line in a tier where there are only 69 players.... i think lol

[t0ad462]

Jun 21, 2016 7:18:23 GMT -5 ABU_Bear said:

Jun 21, 2016 7:11:34 GMT -5 curtmantle said:

As I said in the other thread I think the whole 10 shot rule is flawed. Surely when gaining a promotion you should be compared with the players in the flight you're trying to join not other people on exemption? It also leaves you at the mercy of someone tearing up the course.

If you're on exemption and finish above the exemption/clear strikes line (or some other percentage) you've done enough regardless of how far you've finished behind the top exemption.

But anyway, I agree, the 70 figure seems arbitrary and should be changed to be "above the demotion strike line".

note: I will try and make this post the last time I go on about this.

I think it's something that needs to be discussed. It's not a rant..it's actually a flaw in the system that needs to be corrected. Why reward failure? Imagine being the person who earns his 3rd strike and is demoted while scoring better than the guy who earned his promotion card. That's not right at all

I think twice now, this season, I've exempted from E to D and then to C, but both times fell all the way back to Z because of 10 strokes. Pretty sure I was above the line but got stung by someone else on exemption shooting just a shot or two over the 10. Last time I missed out by one stroke. :Shrug: Ohwell.